2013 Forum Draft: Cuts

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361213532' post='1361156']
Who else would you put ahead of McCoy?
[/quote]

Kyle Williams and Marcel Dareus.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361213621' post='1361160']


You traded for Nnamdi? So if you are so sure you would get him cheaper in FA, why trade for him in the first place. Could have used those draft picks to continue building what ever is left of the Bengals team that has gone to the playoffs the past two years.
[/quote]Eagles GM said he wouldn't cut him. And no one would pay 15 stars for an overrated and aging CB so I'm pretty confident I could get him cheaper. I think I gave up like a 6th round pick for him so it's not a big deal...

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361213710' post='1361164']
Eagles GM said he wouldn't cut him. And no one would pay 15 stars for an overrated and aging CB so I'm pretty confident I could get him cheaper. I think I gave up like a 6th round pick for him so it's not a big deal...
[/quote]

And you believed him?

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1361213702' post='1361163']


Kyle Williams and Marcel Dareus.
[/quote]Dareus is filled with potential and shows flashes but IMO he has disappointed to this point.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361213664' post='1361162']

I'll tell you later. Someone might cut some quality players. Not trying to bring attention to players I want.
[/quote]Ight.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1361213744' post='1361166']


And you believed him?
[/quote]Yes because his secondary is a joke...Even more so without Nnamdi

[gabefergy]

There is this Haloti Ngata guy. I hear he is pretty good. Some dude named Justin Smith too...

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1361213856' post='1361170']
There is this Haloti Ngata guy. I hear he is pretty good. Some dude named Justin Smith too...
[/quote]They are DE's that can shift inside not natural DT's

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1361213856' post='1361170']
There is this Haloti Ngata guy. I hear he is pretty good. Some dude named Justin Smith too...
[/quote]
Yes. Ngata, Suh, Smith, Atkins, and a few others I like a lot on some other teams. That's four right there.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361213710' post='1361164']
Eagles GM said he wouldn't cut him. [b]And no one would pay 15 stars for an overrated and aging CB [/b]so I'm pretty confident I could get him cheaper. I think I gave up like a 6th round pick for him so it's not a big deal...
[/quote]

Well actually you just paid 15 stars for an overrated and aging Cb by trading for him.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361213919' post='1361173']


Well actually you just paid 15 stars for an overrated and aging Cb by trading for him.
[/quote]Not since I'm going to cut him... All I did was pay for the opportunity to get Nnamdi.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361213997' post='1361175']
Not since I'm going to cut him... All I did was pay for the opportunity to get Nnamdi.
[/quote]
I had a feeling you made the trade because you wanted Nnamdi but not for 15 Stars but because the GM said he wouldn't cut him you traded for him to cut him yourself risking that no other GM would take him due to age & poor performance as well as being overrated. So, your assumption is you can get him cheaper and still save money and it only ends up costing you a 6th.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361213997' post='1361175']
Not since I'm going to cut him... All I did was pay for the opportunity to get Nnamdi.
[/quote]

Which makes the trade worthless. Have fun only saving half of his salary.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361214065' post='1361176']

I had a feeling you made the trade because you wanted Nnamdi but not for 15 Stars but because the GM said he wouldn't cut him you traded for him to cut him yourself risking that no other GM would take him due to age & poor performance as well as being overrated. So, your assumption is you can get him cheaper and still save money and it only ends up costing you a 6th.
[/quote]Exactly. If I miss out oh well I lost a 6th no big deal.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361213891' post='1361171']
They are DE's that can shift inside not natural DT's
[/quote]
Nah they just play DE. Smith started his career at DT. Either way they are both dominant at DT just like DE which makes them even better.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361214109' post='1361177']


Which makes the trade worthless. Have fun only saving half of his salary.
[/quote]How would I save half his salary?

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361214168' post='1361181']
How would I save half his salary?
[/quote]
He probably assumes Nnamdi will go for 7.5 Stars or something.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361214121' post='1361179']
Exactly. If I miss out oh well I lost a 6th no big deal.
[/quote]

In which you may miss out on a player who could have been a steal for you and helped you in the 6th round.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1361214146' post='1361180']

Nah they just play DE. Smith started his career at DT. Either way they are both dominant at DT just like DE which makes them even better.
[/quote]Fair enough I guess if you include players like them then McCoy would not be top 5 possibly not top 10.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361214218' post='1361183']


In which you may miss out on a player who could have been a steal for you and helped you in the 6th round.
[/quote]It's a risk I'm willing to take... Kinda like you trading a stud LT for almost nothing...

[JO_75]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361214217' post='1361182']
He probably assumes Nnamdi will go for 7.5 Stars or something.
[/quote]

I thought there was a rule that if you trade for a player then cut him, you only save half of his salary or something. I'm pretty sure we implemented something that would hurt GMs in the instance they trade for someone, then cut him later.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361214221' post='1361184']
Fair enough I guess if you include players like them then McCoy would not be top 5 possibly not top 10.
[/quote]
Hence why I am saying he's not top-5. JJ Watt I would rank above him, but I'm not sure if he can play DT TBH. I think he's really best as a 3-4 DE.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361214217' post='1361182']

He probably assumes Nnamdi will go for 7.5 Stars or something.
[/quote]I see.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361214284' post='1361187']
I thought there was a rule that if you trade for a player then cut him, you only save half of his salary or something. I'm pretty sure we implemented something that would hurt GMs in the instance they trade for someone, then cut him later.
[/quote]
I asked about that before, and I was told that's not the case. I had the same assumption, though.

Please clarify that for me. I would really like to know.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361214270' post='1361186']
It's a risk I'm willing to take... Kinda like you trading a stud LT for almost nothing...
[/quote]

I got a high 3rd round pick out of it, and there are better LTs in Free Agency that I'm targeting.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361214284' post='1361187']


I thought there was a rule that if you trade for a player then cut him, you only save half of his salary or something. I'm pretty sure we implemented something that would hurt GMs in the instance they trade for someone, then cut him later.
[/quote]I'm pretty sure that was for players signed out of FA just so they could be traded...

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361214330' post='1361192']


I got a high 3rd round pick out of it, and there are better LTs in Free Agency that I'm targeting.
[/quote]I have to disagree that there are better FA LT's but thats just my opinion.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1361214284' post='1361187']
I thought there was a rule that if you trade for a player then cut him, you only save half of his salary or something. I'm pretty sure we implemented something that would hurt GMs in the instance they trade for someone, then cut him later.
[/quote]

I know that is for FA but I don't know if we said that for cutting traded players.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361214413' post='1361197']
I have to disagree that there are better FA LT's but thats just my opinion.
[/quote]

Long is overrated and Albert is just average.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1361214460' post='1361199']
Long is overrated and Albert is just average.
[/quote]

Not even who I'm targeting. Plus I could always stay at 2 and upgrade with Joeckel if I don't get the LT I want in Free Agency