2013 Forum Draft: Trades

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1364775635' post='1421247']
I think of Beatty more as a top 12 or so LT rather than a RT but that's just my opinion.
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He graded as +22.4 by PFF and excelled as both a pass-blocker and run-blocker. I would say he is a top 10 OT by that regard. If Fisher struggles at LT, Beatty can easily switch but I think Fisher can be just as dominant.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1364776974' post='1421260']


He graded as +22.4 by PFF and excelled as both a pass-blocker and run-blocker. I would say he is a top 10 OT by that regard. If Fisher struggles at LT, Beatty can easily switch but I think Fisher can be just as dominant.
[/quote]I can see that I was just estimating off of the little I've seen.

[Yatagarasu]

My mission for my O-line has been accomplished

2013 Starting OL

Joeckel - Silatolu - Slauson - Rinehart - Johnson

Pro: Younger, Talented, have some depth, and fits well in both zone blocking and smash-mouth scheme

Con: Unproven, Inexperienced and will have some growing pain

Conclusion: I might have sent away two All-Pro OL-men, but I have a good and young OL, which I can build around for the next decade

2012 Starting OL:

Jordan - Silatolu - Kalil - Hangartner - Williams

Pro: Experienced, Talented with some All-Pros

Cons: Aging, Ineffective especially on the right side, Injuries really took a toll on the OL

Conclusion: Age and injuries finally caught up with some of the starters along with inexperience for Silatolu, thus producing one of the worst OL in the NFL last year.

[Sizzlebshu]

Whitworth-Osemele-Gradkowski-Yanda-Oher works for me

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1364790548' post='1421353']
Whitworth-Osemele-Gradkowski-Yanda-Oher works for me
[/quote]
Yes, that is an elite line as well. I really hope Gradkowski can step in and be a solid center.

[-Truth-]

Since we're listing our units, as we do every time that someone puts theirs on paper, the combination of Dunlap, Grubbs, De La Puente, Evans and Cherilus should be a very formidable one.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1364792506' post='1421370']
Since we're listing our units, as we do every time that someone puts theirs on paper, the combination of Dunlap, Grubbs, De La Puente, Evans and Cherilus should be a very formidable one.
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I would be concerned with health and Cherilus has more bad play than good to his credit, but especially up the middle that is a strong group.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1364793989' post='1421399']
I would be concerned with health and Cherilus has more bad play than good to his credit, but especially up the middle that is a strong group.
[/quote]

Thank you. Although to the defense of Cherilus, after accounting for his 2010 injuries, he graded out very well in each of his last 3 seasons, only once finishing outside of the Top 8 of his position, that being 11th. In fact, he was PFF's 2nd best RT in 2012, being especially terrific in pass protection, having allowed just 4 sacks and 27 pressures on a ridiculous 814 pass blocking snaps. The issue with his knee is concerning, but he has started played and started every game since 2011. Your point still stands in that My OL does have a few players who tend to find their nicks and bruises, so I'll definitely need a bit of depth. But the fact that this corps missed 2 collective starts last year at least helps pacify those concerns just a bit.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1364790637' post='1421354']
Yes, that is an elite line as well. I really hope Gradkowski can step in and be a solid center.
[/quote]
I hope we can swindle Whitworth from the Bengals for a 2nd round lol.

[arnie_uk]

I think I done fine keeping mine together and adding valuable deth in winters and Williams in the fourth round.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[b]Official Trade[/b]

Bills:
DE Mario Williams (6.5 stars)
DE Cliff Avril (9 stars)
QB Andy Dalton (0.5 stars)
CB Stephon Gilmore (1 star)

Saints:
QB Drew Brees (10 stars)

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1364832119' post='1421539']
[b]Official Trade[/b]

Bills:
DE Mario Williams (6.5 stars)
DE Cliff Avril (9 stars)
QB Andy Dalton (0.5 stars)
CB Stephon Gilmore (1 star)

Saints:
QB Drew Brees (10 stars)
[/quote]
April Fool's!!

[Geving]

Wow. Blockbuster

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1364832119' post='1421539']
[b]Official Trade[/b]

Bills:
DE Mario Williams (6.5 stars)
DE Cliff Avril (9 stars)
QB Andy Dalton (0.5 stars)
CB Stephon Gilmore (1 star)

Saints:
QB Drew Brees (10 stars)
[/quote]april fools

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1364832119' post='1421539']
[b]Official Trade[/b]

Bills:
DE Mario Williams (6.5 stars)
DE Cliff Avril (9 stars)
QB Andy Dalton (0.5 stars)
CB Stephon Gilmore (1 star)

Saints:
QB Drew Brees (10 stars)
[/quote]

Confirmed.

[ravens__]

It was a little too obvious this year, you guys. Same GMs as last year too when you got us all good.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1364835629' post='1421594']


Confirmed.
[/quote]pointless confirming when its be outed already. Far too obvious this year

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='ravens__' timestamp='1364837001' post='1421617']
It was a little too obvious this year, you guys. Same GMs as last year too when you got us all good.
[/quote]

We got you guys good last year though.

[ravens__]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1364837680' post='1421623']


We got you guys good last year though.
[/quote]

That you did, mainly because it was done for the first time and it was well executed. It included a player that was bound to cause an outrage (Ray Lewis), the trade itself wasn't very lopsided from what I can remember and then you had Truth having this rare gift of being able to justify every trade possible with long-[profanity deleted] posts whether they make sense or not.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[b]Trade:[/b]
[u][b][color=#006400]Philadelphia Eagles get:[/color][/b][/u]
WR Ramses Barden (.5S)
6th round pick (194)

[u][b][color=#ff8c00]Cincinnati Bengals get:[/color][/b][/u]
5th round pick (151)

[Free Agent]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1364845923' post='1421880']
[b]Trade:[/b]
[u][b][color=#006400]Philadelphia Eagles get:[/color][/b][/u]
WR Ramses Barden (.5S)
6th round pick (194)

[u][b][color=#ff8c00]Cincinnati Bengals get:[/color][/b][/u]
5th round pick (151)
[/quote]

Confirmed.

[ravensdan]

Anyone looking to trade up to pick 160 send me a PM.

[SecretAgentMan]

I am looking to trade up into the fifth round.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='ravens__' timestamp='1364838536' post='1421639']
That you did, mainly because it was done for the first time and it was well executed. It included a player that was bound to cause an outrage (Ray Lewis), the trade itself wasn't very lopsided from what I can remember and then you had Truth having this rare gift of being able to justify every trade possible with long-[profanity deleted] posts whether they make sense or not.
[/quote]

Ah, I'm glad that somebody remembers it. The last part could not have been any more on point lol

[ravensdan]

Official trade:
Steelers rd 5 pick 160 for
Detroit rd 6 pick 176 and rd 6 pick 203

[Yatagarasu]

[quote name='ravensdan' timestamp='1364899786' post='1422416']
Official trade:
Steelers rd 5 pick 160 for
Detroit rd 6 pick 176 and rd 6 pick 203
[/quote]

Anyone want to jump the Lions?

159th pick at your service.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='ravensdan' timestamp='1364899786' post='1422416']
Official trade:
Steelers rd 5 pick 160 for
Detroit rd 6 pick 176 and rd 6 pick 203
[/quote]
Confirmed

[Guest nflfan123]

Alex Smith on the trading block
Looking for WR and DE and picks

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='nflfan123' timestamp='1365060577' post='1424519']
Alex Smith on the trading block
Looking for WR and DE and picks
[/quote]

That's not going to happen.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Pick 174 is on the block if my guy is taken.