2013 Forum Draft: Discussion

[ravensdan]

In my opinion there should be a full set of rules posted and these moves shouldn't count.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='ravensdan' timestamp='1360425643' post='1351655']
In my opinion there should be a full set of rules posted and these moves shouldn't count.
[/quote]Are you completely against the Landry cut and Pettigrew trade since those are the only moves and they are pretty insignificant

[JO_75]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1360425737' post='1351657']
Are you completely against the Landry cut and Pettigrew trade since those are the only moves and they are pretty insignificant
[/quote]

Yeah, everything else has just been pure discussion of what may or may not happen. I have been having discussion with GMs about players but nothing is final until we figure out all the rules.

[Dubs]

Pus we have alot of new members who are doing this for the first time....without some idea of the rules (even if they change) than they are at a clear disadvantage..I say we slow down the process and help everyone understand the rules and how it works. As I think alot of us are assuming people roughly know

[GrimCoconut]

There has been really nothing that has officially happened yet that would cause us to have to reverse everything that has occurred. A TE was traded & a guy cut. Not a big deal.

We do need to sort things out to make things clear.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Dubs' timestamp='1360425983' post='1351664']
Pus we have alot of new members who are doing this for the first time....without some idea of the rules (even if they change) than they are at a clear disadvantage..I say we slow down the process and help everyone understand the rules and how it works. As I think alot of us are assuming people roughly know
[/quote]
Yeah, I will admit I am a little confused about the rules and would like to hear/read something concrete.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1360425856' post='1351661']
Yeah, everything else has just been pure discussion of what may or may not happen. I have been having discussion with GMs about players but nothing is final until we figure out all the rules.
[/quote]I just see a lot of overreaction to what has taken place so far (which is almost nothing)... It's not like a superstar got cut or dealt yet. Also on the rules didnt someone post a general list a while back?

[ravens__]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1360425491' post='1351652']
We have two teams remaining left to be picked. With that said, who are the remaining two members who signed up but haven't picked a team yet?
[/quote]

-Truth- and jazz1988.

[codizzle]

Just let everyone talk for now and not make everything official until all the threads/rules are set and made available

I'd help out more if I wasn't on mobile 24/7

[JO_75]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1360426009' post='1351666']
There has been really nothing that has officially happened yet that would cause us to have to reverse everything that has occurred. A TE was traded & a guy cut. Not a big deal.

We do need to sort things out to make things clear.
[/quote]

For now we can put things on hold until everything is clear. I don't even know which site we are using for the Salary Cap so I don't know for sure where I stand cap wise with the Jaguars. I'm planning a spending spree to keep some of my free agents and a big name player from another team but I can't plan for it unless I know for sure where I stand.

[ravensdan]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1360425737' post='1351657']
Are you completely against the Landry cut and Pettigrew trade since those are the only moves and they are pretty insignificant
[/quote]

I'm less against those particular moves as for a final set of rules...something like rfa's is a pretty big deal...also is there a provision to re-sign your own free agents or do they all hit the open market? Also can you extend contracts?

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I went back and looked through some of the old threads and this was the best rules thing I found although its from 2012 so it does need some work.

"This is the final idea of how Free Agency, cuts, and trades will work for the 2012 Arm Chair GM mock draft. Here are all the rules.


[b](EDIT):[/b] The 2012 Mock draft Salary Cap shall be set at [s]125[/s] 130 stars. 1 star = 1 million dollars. The site we referenced for Cap #s already included 5 million for the rookie class, so add 5 stars to your total to make it even up.

You cannot restructure contracts. You cannot borrow from future cap space. You cannot bid/trade on RFAS.

[u][u][b][u]How many stars are available in total?[/u][/b][/u][/u]

You can't go above 130 stars for the 2012 season.

Add up your draft picks so you know how much you must add or subtract in star gains. Then take the projected cap numbers and subtract that from the total cap. Projected Numbers found [url="http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html"][color=#0000cd](HERE)[/color][/url]

So for example, you are Team A and your projected cap is 100 stars. You add in 5 million for your draft cost because in the real NFL teams are supposed to put away 5 million for 7 rounds worth of draft picks. Now you have 20 stars to use on Free Agency.

[u][u][b][u]Draft value:[/u][/b][/u][/u]

Rookie class is 5 stars for the standard mock, which is 7 total picks. You add or subtract stars based on whether you have more or less picks than the normal draft allocation. The values of the stars you add or subtract based on your picks are:[list]
[*]1st round - 3 stars
[*]2nd round - 2 stars
[*]3rd through the 7th round - 1 star each
[/list]This lets you know many stars you need to leave for your Rookie class. .




[u][b][u][u]Franchise Tag [/u][/u][/b][b][u][u]costs[/u][/u][/b][/u]:[list]
[*]QB -14.5 stars
[*]RB - 8 stars
[*]WR - 9.5 stars
[*]TE -5.5 stars
[*]OL - 9.5 stars
[*]DE - 10.5 stars
[*]DT - 8 stars
[*]LB -9 stars
[*]CB - 10.5 stars
[*]S - 6 stars
[/list]Based on [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8247df3a/article/franchisetag-values-will-be-down-across-the-board-in-2012"](HERE)[/url]




[u][b][u]How does Free Agency work[/u][/b]?[/u]

Free Agency will begin on[b] Feb. 20th 2012 (Monday) at 7:00 PM (EST)[/b]. There will be one major Free Agency thread, and on the first day we will being auctioning the QB position and list all the available players.

You will have 24 hours to place your bid. Once those 24 hours are up, no more bids can be placed. The Free Agency managers will sort through the winning bids to players at the end and give them to their new owners. Once that position is done, we will move onto the next day and start at RB and so on.

Going through each position at a time will make it much easier to track who is available and who is gone.

[u][b][u]Bidding on Free Agents:[/u][/b][/u]

If you win the bid you add that FA to your roster as of the 2012 season, don’t worry about the future.

Every GM has an idea on who they want and divvy up their budget according to this.[list]
[*][b]Team Name[/b]
[*][b]Free Agent[/b]
[*][b]Bid (# of stars)[/b]
[/list][u][u][b][u]Cutting Players:[/u][/b][/u][/u]


Go [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/bal/ravens"][color=#0000cd](HERE)[/color][/url] to find a player salary for his 2012 year. Translate that amount to however many millions it is and equate that to stars.

So if a player is going to make 7.5 million, you would get 7.5 stars by cutting him. Forget about future cap hits.

If a player is eligible for a roster bonus (NOT signing bonus) than you must also include that into there salary because those figures are added into your salary cap already. So it is base salary + roster bonus.

Once the cut player becomes a UFA, he is added to the Free Agency pool. Please try to make your cuts before real FA starts so we have an idea of the "CUT UFAS" available and can add them to the list of available FAs.

[u][u][b][u]Trades[/u][/b][/u][/u][b]:[/b]

Using previous blue link, if you trade away a player, you get extra stars based on his salary, or if you trade for a player you lose stars based on his salary. Both guys post in the final thread the team, trade for/trade away players name, stars based on salary you spent/gained and your new cap. The OP will update the initial post.

You do not need to worry about signing your own RFAs. They are already on your 2012 roster so you do do not need to extend their contracts. The RFA value is 2.5 stars and EFA is .5 stars.

There will be no compensation picks since the NFL doesn't hand them out until real FA starts and that's a while away.

[u][u][b]What about rounding numbers? [/b][/u][/u]

Round to the nearest half million. Half a star = half a million dollars."

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I went back through some of the old threads and this is the closest thing I found to a general set of rules except that this if for 2012 so it needs some updating...

"This is the final idea of how Free Agency, cuts, and trades will work for the 2012 Arm Chair GM mock draft. Here are all the rules.


[b](EDIT):[/b] The 2012 Mock draft Salary Cap shall be set at [s]125[/s] 130 stars. 1 star = 1 million dollars. The site we referenced for Cap #s already included 5 million for the rookie class, so add 5 stars to your total to make it even up.

You cannot restructure contracts. You cannot borrow from future cap space. You cannot bid/trade on RFAS.

[u][u][b][u]How many stars are available in total?[/u][/b][/u][/u]

You can't go above 130 stars for the 2012 season.

Add up your draft picks so you know how much you must add or subtract in star gains. Then take the projected cap numbers and subtract that from the total cap. Projected Numbers found [url="http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html"][color=#0000cd](HERE)[/color][/url]

So for example, you are Team A and your projected cap is 100 stars. You add in 5 million for your draft cost because in the real NFL teams are supposed to put away 5 million for 7 rounds worth of draft picks. Now you have 20 stars to use on Free Agency.

[u][u][b][u]Draft value:[/u][/b][/u][/u]

Rookie class is 5 stars for the standard mock, which is 7 total picks. You add or subtract stars based on whether you have more or less picks than the normal draft allocation. The values of the stars you add or subtract based on your picks are:[list]
[*]1st round - 3 stars
[*]2nd round - 2 stars
[*]3rd through the 7th round - 1 star each
[/list]This lets you know many stars you need to leave for your Rookie class. .




[u][b][u][u]Franchise Tag [/u][/u][/b][b][u][u]costs[/u][/u][/b][/u]:[list]
[*]QB -14.5 stars
[*]RB - 8 stars
[*]WR - 9.5 stars
[*]TE -5.5 stars
[*]OL - 9.5 stars
[*]DE - 10.5 stars
[*]DT - 8 stars
[*]LB -9 stars
[*]CB - 10.5 stars
[*]S - 6 stars
[/list]Based on [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8247df3a/article/franchisetag-values-will-be-down-across-the-board-in-2012"](HERE)[/url]




[u][b][u]How does Free Agency work[/u][/b]?[/u]

Free Agency will begin on[b] Feb. 20th 2012 (Monday) at 7:00 PM (EST)[/b]. There will be one major Free Agency thread, and on the first day we will being auctioning the QB position and list all the available players.

You will have 24 hours to place your bid. Once those 24 hours are up, no more bids can be placed. The Free Agency managers will sort through the winning bids to players at the end and give them to their new owners. Once that position is done, we will move onto the next day and start at RB and so on.

Going through each position at a time will make it much easier to track who is available and who is gone.

[u][b][u]Bidding on Free Agents:[/u][/b][/u]

If you win the bid you add that FA to your roster as of the 2012 season, don’t worry about the future.

Every GM has an idea on who they want and divvy up their budget according to this.[list]
[*][b]Team Name[/b]
[*][b]Free Agent[/b]
[*][b]Bid (# of stars)[/b]
[/list][u][u][b][u]Cutting Players:[/u][/b][/u][/u]


Go [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/bal/ravens"][color=#0000cd](HERE)[/color][/url] to find a player salary for his 2012 year. Translate that amount to however many millions it is and equate that to stars.

So if a player is going to make 7.5 million, you would get 7.5 stars by cutting him. Forget about future cap hits.

If a player is eligible for a roster bonus (NOT signing bonus) than you must also include that into there salary because those figures are added into your salary cap already. So it is base salary + roster bonus.

Once the cut player becomes a UFA, he is added to the Free Agency pool. Please try to make your cuts before real FA starts so we have an idea of the "CUT UFAS" available and can add them to the list of available FAs.

[u][u][b][u]Trades[/u][/b][/u][/u][b]:[/b]

Using previous blue link, if you trade away a player, you get extra stars based on his salary, or if you trade for a player you lose stars based on his salary. Both guys post in the final thread the team, trade for/trade away players name, stars based on salary you spent/gained and your new cap. The OP will update the initial post.

You do not need to worry about signing your own RFAs. They are already on your 2012 roster so you do do not need to extend their contracts. The RFA value is 2.5 stars and EFA is .5 stars.

There will be no compensation picks since the NFL doesn't hand them out until real FA starts and that's a while away.

[u][u][b]What about rounding numbers? [/b][/u][/u]

Round to the nearest half million. Half a star = half a million dollars."

[JO_75]

[quote name='ravensdan' timestamp='1360426392' post='1351677']
I'm less against those particular moves as for a final set of rules...something like rfa's is a pretty big deal...also is there a provision to re-sign your own free agents or do they all hit the open market? Also can you extend contracts?
[/quote]

The only way you can re-sign your own free agents is after they hit the open market and no you can not extend any contracts.

[Dubs]

Seeing as I dont see it in the previous rules how will we be doing RFA?

And are we going to use Spotrac for ALL cap related info? It has everything we need on one site...

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Dubs' timestamp='1360429052' post='1351710']
Seeing as I dont see it in the previous rules how will we be doing RFA?

And are we going to use Spotrac for ALL cap related info? It has everything we need on one site...
[/quote]
I think so. It's super easy & everything is in one [b]SPOT[/b]rac. Haha.

[Dubs]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1360429339' post='1351714']
I think so. It's super easy & everything is in one [b]SPOT[/b]rac. Haha.
[/quote]

Ha good one and too true..

I remember someone wrote up a revised RFA style to adjust for type of contract. As well there was a revised idea on FA for the final five minutes..anyone know remember who wrote that or if they have it?

[JO_75]

Jaz1988 picked the Chargers leaving Truth with the Panthers meaning all 32 teams have been chosen and now we can further discuss the rules and get them ironed out.

[stm85]

So if the cap is now 130 stars does that mean we add 8.5 stars to the listed cap space on espn/spotrac?

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='stm85' timestamp='1360431363' post='1351728']
So if the cap is now 130 stars does that mean we add 8.5 stars to the listed cap space on espn/spotrac?
[/quote]
That was just from last year I believe

[JO_75]

[quote name='stm85' timestamp='1360431363' post='1351728']
So if the cap is now 130 stars does that mean we add 8.5 stars to the listed cap space on espn/spotrac?
[/quote]

I thought the cap was 127 stars?

[stm85]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1360431824' post='1351736']
That was just from last year I believe
[/quote]
127 then? 121.5 from the real CBA and then 5.5 for picks, correct?

[Ed_Reed20]

Truth hasn't logged on since New Years. Someone might need to take over the Panthers temporarily.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='stm85' timestamp='1360431927' post='1351739']

127 then? 121.5 from the real CBA and then 5.5 for picks, correct?
[/quote]

Ya that was just quoting last year

[Free Agent]

Nnamdi Asomugha a.k.a. the best cornerback in the NFL is available for trade.

[arnie_uk]

At the start one of these threads I posted rules which included rfa. That's our starting point. Someone bump them

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1360434089' post='1351788']
At the start one of these threads I posted rules which included rfa. That's our starting point. Someone bump them
[/quote]

Best to copy and paste them to the first post, so everyone can have an easy frame of reference.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1360434089' post='1351788']
At the start one of these threads I posted rules which included rfa. That's our starting point. Someone bump them
[/quote]Here are the rules you posted.

Amended rules from last year to suit what everyone complained about last year. Discuss. Main issues, free agency, cutting players signed in FA and also stopping, or not stopping some trades
[list]
[*]The 2013 Mock draft Salary Cap shall be set at XXX stars.
[*]You cannot restructure contracts. You cannot borrow from future cap space or trade future picks.
[*]Everything is rounded to the nearest Half Million (1/2 Star)
[*]There will be no compensation picks since the NFL doesn't hand them out until real FA starts and that's a while away.
[/list]
[b][u]Draft value:[/u][/b]

You have to leave 8 stars for the normal draft, which is 1 pick in every round 1 through 7. You add or subtract stars based on whether you have more or less picks than the normal draft allocation. The values of the stars you add or subtract based on your picks are:[list]
[*]1st round - 3 stars
[*]2nd round - 2 stars
[*]3rd through – 1 Star
[*]4[sup]th[/sup] round through 7th round – 0.5 star each
[/list]
This lets you know many stars you need to leave for your Rookie class. .

[b][u]Franchise Tag costs[/u][/b]:[list]
[*]QB -14.5 stars
[*]RB - 8 stars
[*]WR - 9.5 stars
[*]TE -5.5 stars
[*]OL - 9.5 stars
[*]DE - 10.5 stars
[*]DT - 8 stars
[*]LB -9 stars
[*]CB - 10.5 stars
[*]S - 6 stars
[/list]
Based on [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8247df3a/article/franchisetag-values-will-be-down-across-the-board-in-2012"]XXXX[/url]

NOTE THESE ARE LAST YEARS VALUES AND LINK

[b][u]Restricted Free Agents[/u][/b]

You place a tender on all your RFA you want to keep. The Tenders are 1[sup]st[/sup] Round Tender, which cost 3 stars, or a 2[sup]nd[/sup] round tender which costs 2 stars.

Another team can bid on a RFA. You bid on the RFA by offering up a contract of X Stars. The players’ current team then can decide to match the contract which means he stays on his current team but with a salary that was the bid. The team that tried to bid for him cannot counter offer. You can only bid on one player once, however another team can make a higher bid again.

If his current team doesn’t match the offer, the RFA signs for the bidding team at the contract bid for. That team then has to give up the draft pick that was tendered on the RFA.





[b][u]Exclusive Rights Free Agents[/u][/b]

Exclusive rights Free agents cost 0.5 stars if you want to resign them. They cannot be bid on.

[b][u]Cutting Players[/u][/b]

Go [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/bal/"]http://www.rotoworld...tracts/nfl/bal/[/url] to find a player’s salary for his 2013 year. (Change team for whatever team you are). Translate that amount to however many millions it is and equate that to stars, round to the nearest half million.

So if a player is going to make 7.5 million, you would get 7.5 stars by cutting him. Forget about future cap hits.

If a player is eligible for a roster bonus (NOT signing bonus) you would save that amount as well by cutting him. So it is base salary + roster bonus for 2013.

Once the cut player becomes a UFA, he is added to the Free Agency pool. Please try to make your cuts before real FA starts so we have an idea of the cut players available and can add them to the list of available FAs.

Please try and get cuts done before FA for that position.

WE WILL HAVE A THREAD FOR CUTS AND RESIGNINGS TO MAKE FA LISTS EASIER. PLEASE POST EVERY CUT AND RESIGNING IN THIS THREAD AS WELL AS YOUR STATE OF THE FRANCHISE POST.

In the format:

Team
Player
Cut/Resigned
No. of Stars

[b][u]Trades[/u]:[/b]

Using previous blue link, if you trade away a player, you get extra stars based on his salary and roster bonus, or if you trade for a player you lose stars based on his salary bonus. Both guys post in the trade thread the details of the trade (in the format truth wants).

Make sure after you decide on every cut and every trade is confirmed, edit you state of the franchise post (explained later).

[b][u]How does Free Agency work[/u][/b][u]?[/u]

Free Agency will begin on[b] XXX.[/b] There will be one major Free Agency thread, and on the first day we will being auctioning the QB position and list all the available players.

You will have 24 hours to place your bid. Once those 24 hours are up, no more bids can be placed. The Free Agency managers will sort through the winning bids to players at the end and give them to their new owners. Once that position is done, we will move onto the next day and start at RB and so on.

Going through each position at a time will make it much easier to track who is available and who is gone.

We will then have a free for all of all the guys left for a day or two, then again after the draft to fill out your roster.

[b][u]Bidding on Free Agents:[/u][/b]

If you win the bid you add that FA to your roster as of the 2012 season, don’t worry about the future.

Every GM has an idea on who they want and divvy up their budget according to this.[list]
[*][b]Team Name[/b]
[*][b]Free Agent[/b]
[*][b]Bid (# of stars)[/b]
[/list]

That’s for the first bid. Then if another team comes in and wants to bid, make sure and read through the thread, quote the highest bid so far (if its a player already bid on) and make sure and post a bid higher. If the first team wants to counter bid, again quote the post.

We don’t want people not looking for the highest bid and then bidding 6 mil for say Webb, when someone has already bid 8.

[b]So rules[/b]

[b][b]Read thread and find highest bid so far.[/b]
[b]Quote said bid and outbid the other team. ALWAYS QUOTE PREVIOUS HIGHEST BID. No Quoting the final 5 minutes is required, but it is up until then.[/b]
[b]Do bids in the format above[/b]
[b]Can start the bidding at whatever you want, lowest value 0.5 stars.[/b]
[b]Bid based on what you want to pay for his 2012 salary only.[/b]
[b]No signing bonuses or anything like that[/b][/b]
[b]Highest Bid gets the player[/b]
[b]EDITING BIDS IS NOT ALLOWED.[/b]

Coming into the final 5 minutes JO will post in caps and bold "[b]FINAL FIVE MINUTES" [/b]just so we have a clear divide, JO you post it in the discussion thread anyway, so just post it in the FA thread now. If JO can’t be online for whatever reason please PM someone else to do it (Truth, myself anyone - only one person is in charge of doing it). Then when its over JO (or whoever you PM) posts the Bidding has no closed. (it has to be the same person and only that person is official!!)

Now, anyone that was the bid leader before the final five minutes post, and then gets outbid in the final 5 mins, if they want a chance to bid again on that player, they have to say so in the thread, [b]WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES. [/b]Just post "Miami" where leading on "player name" going into the last five minutes, i want to bid again. Then at [b]7.05 EST [/b]JO or whoever it is posts that final chance to bid is now closed.

I (me because i post the winning bids in the thread) will PM the GMs involved and they will have to PM me there highest bid they are willing to pay for said player. Both GMs get one chance, and the highest bid wins, in the event of a tie, i will pm back and let yous have another go.

This doesnt apply when the first bid on a player was made in the final 5 minutes, just when someone got outbid in the final 5 minutes

1. JO Posts [b]FINAL FIVE MINUTES[/b] when 5 mins left
2. At 7est JO Posts [b]Bidding Over[/b]
3. Then within [b][i]5 [/i][/b][b]mins [/b]any GM that was winning prior to 5 mins left, and got out bid in the final 5 mins has to post they want another chance to bid for X player.
4. At [b]7.05 [/b]again JO posts that time is up.
5. I will then PM both GMs and the reply with the highest bid they are prepared to go, winner gets the player.


[b][u]State of the Franchise Post[/u][/b]

There is a separate thread for your state of the franchise, laid out like this:

[b][u]Team [/u][/b]

Starting cap (post link)
[b][u]Draft Pick[/u][/b]

Post every pick you have here
Then do a total of the stars you need to leave for the draft. Score out traded picks, don’t delete them. Add in traded for picks. Include the round and the overall no. of the pick.

[b][u]Franchise Tag[/u][/b]
Player position amount

[b][u]RFA[/u][/b]
Player position Tender Amount

[b][u]EFA[/u][/b]
Player position amount
[b][u]Cuts[/u][/b]
Player Position Amount saved
[b][u]Trades[/u][/b]
1. (Your team) trades (player name and salary/ or pick) to (team name) for (player name and salary/ or pick)
2. Same format
3. And so on

[b][u]Total Saved and Spent[/u][/b]

Cuts: X saved
Trades X Saved/Spent
Franchise: X Spent
RFA: X Spent
EFA: X Spent

Total Spent/Saved

New Total Salary X
Salary Remaining X
Less Draft Allowance X (from above)

Make sure and Update this after every transaction. Remember you must have 53 man rosters.


[b][u]Threads[/u][/b]

We will have a general discussion thread (this one), trade, cuts and resigning discussion goes in here also.
We will have a thread for all official trades, cuts and resigning’s.
We will have the State of the Franchise thread, to be updated after every transaction.
We will have a Big Board thread for the draft order (Truth).
We will have a Depth chart thread to be kept up dated regularly, this is a requirement, not a option.
Then when FA begins we will have threads for that but they won’t be pinned.

In the state of the franchise thread, big board thread and depth chart thread there is too be NO discussion.

[b][u]Other[/u][/b]
Some rules that need reviewed are trades of high caliber players such as CJ, do we have a list of guys who can’t be traded, or do we have a vote if and when someone wants to trade a player like CJ, or do we just let it go.

Also the bidding format on FA caused some stirs last time, as well as some players being signed then cut, maybe this shouldn’t be allowed, you could take a 50% cap hit, if you sign then cut/trade a player. Note I slightly changed the bidding format to suit what a lot of people wanted last year.

Discuss rules and what you want changed.

WE NEED A LINK FOR FRANCHISE VALUES, AND TEAM STARTING CAP NUMBERS.

[JO_75]

I'm happy with what I have done so far. Acquiring the potential future of this franchise in hometown favorite Tim Tebow, and acquiring another 3rd Round pick for LT Eugene Monroe. I'm going to trade a couple more players and be done before the start of free agency where I plan to be busy.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

The Bengals offense just took a giant leap forward acquiring some explosive pieces in CJformerly2K and Kenny Britt! Andrew Whitworth found his replacement and I have a QB with a huge ceiling. The Defense also improved with some much needed S help.