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[News] What Will Happen With Bryant McKinnie?

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The veteran left tackle is a free agent after an impressive run during the playoffs.

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“I think the way he played down the stretch against [Colts DE Dwight] Freeney, against [Broncos OLB Elvis] Dumervil and then against [49ers OLB] Aldon Smith, I think it makes a statement for him,” Newsome said.

Yes - it makes a statement ... IF he decides he wants to try, he can be effective. The risk is, you don't know what you are going to get walking in the door when camp opens up (or, if he'll show up).
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I enjoyed McKinnie but it's time to turn to the youth movement. We need younger talent and we have it in the wings. Let's cut some older players and re-equip this team to stay in the hunt for the Lombardi next season.
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my only concern with mckinnie is i do not know if he could last a whole season. he was fresh during the playoffs thats 1 reason why he dominated. i do know that oher is not a LT and drafting #32 may not bring us a top flight LT so this is a tough call to make. i will leave it in the hands of the front office.
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Big Mac played like a Raven in the playoffs. It was great to see Joe get time to throw and he lit up some of the best defenses in the post season. We the fans have been calling for his return for better of the season. I'll hate to see him go and I hope we can keep this championship o-line together.
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[quote name='The Greek' timestamp='1360359163' post='1350692']
my only concern with mckinnie is i do not know if he could last a whole season. he was fresh during the playoffs thats 1 reason why he dominated. i do know that oher is not a LT and drafting #32 may not bring us a top flight LT so this is a tough call to make. i will leave it in the hands of the front office.
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I agree that it is unlikely to draft someone #32 and have your starting LT on day one. It seems fans are convinced that Oher is not an LT, but I don't know if the organization is. Let's assume they want to keep Oher at RT and we do not sign McKinnie. I am wondering if the organization would be considering shifting KO to LT and drafting the G/C position for O line depth in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic posting on Boldin, member warned · Report post

Anyone else reading the reports of speculation that the Ravens may let go of Anquan Boldin due to his contract being big and him not surpassing 1000 yards since he has been here?

First off, I thought it would be a good idea to restructure, not cut the man. He is our best receiver, period. I would hope this isnt the case and this has no truth.

Also they said Anquan stated if he was cut by the Ravens, he would retire. That is loyalty right there. Dont cut Anquan please.

If Anquan goes because they need room for Joes huge contract, I am going to go back to being a disliker of Joe. Yeah he won the super bowl, but he is allowing his agent to ask for so much money it will gut the team around him. Yeah he deserves alot of money, but enough is enough.

Would Joe Flacco have even come close to getting to the super bowl without Anquan Boldin? I dont think we as a team got past the Colts without Anquan Boldin... just my opinion.

I hope this all isnt true. And I hope Joes agent stops being a complete jack [profanity deleted] and takes a fair amount of money that will allow the team to keep the core together. Joe wont look so good without any receivers to throw the ball to...
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[quote name='D3x3001' timestamp='1360359052' post='1350689']
I enjoyed McKinnie but it's time to turn to the youth movement. We need younger talent and we have it in the wings. Let's cut some older players and re-equip this team to stay in the hunt for the Lombardi next season.
[/quote]We need experience.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Hidden in response to a deleted off topic post · Report post

@Ravensmaniac20 ... too large of a comment to reply directly to ... but to a few of your statements:

Yes - there is speculation about releasing Boldin. Actually, ESPN was making that comment BEFORE the super bowl. It will be very difficult to do, as he came up SO big in the post-season and his heir apparent, Tandon Doss, doesn't look to be ready to fill that slot.

However, it all hinges on Joe's contract and if we end up franchising him exclusive rights, our roster is going to get clobbered.

Newsome made it clear that restructuring contracts is not something they want to do. He stated it as a measure of last resort.

Boldin is not alone. I've also heard the possibility of having Jones, Leech and Birk as potential cap casualties. More than which FAs we'll be able to sign - I think the question of what existing players under contract will we need to release is the most intriguing questions to be answered this off season.
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oher is not a left tackle. if the past 2 season don't convince the coaching staff, nothing will. they went and got mckinnie last year because they felt oher couldn't play there. he's just not built to play left tackle. would try to sign mckinnie to at least a 1 year deal.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic in response to a hidden off topic posting · Report post

OMG the cap stuff is so complicated ...

The organization said it will avoid restructuring contracts almost at all costs. Yet there are rumors out there, saying that the team might consider giving Boldin a contract extension that will reduce his 2013 cap number.

So - using an extension to move the numbers still sounds like restructuring, doesn't it? Is there some difference between restructuring and keeping the contract length the same vs. moving current year cap under an extension?
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i'm lost so do we want him back or we don't ? Oher on the left side joe will be on his back half the game ,,,,,no matter who is calling plays . the off season is aggravating . I don't think Jah reid played enough for me to even know who he is other then hurt allot .
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We really need to hold on to this guy for 1 more year atleast. Draft for D and keep an eye out for a LT either late in draft this year or address it for next. Oher is not a LT!! McKinney and Boldin are very important to this offense. I'm not sure that Doss is ready. The Colt game has me worried about his development.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic in response to RavenManiac20's off topic comment · Report post

RavenManiac20...I agree. Even Unitas, as great as he was, had great receivers.
There were Berry, Mackey, Orr, Hawkins, and Moore out of the backfield.
I agree, no quarterback puts up great numbers without great receivers.
Take away the receivers and Flacco's numbers will fall dramatically.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic, article was on McKinnie and the O-line not recievers, and rumors · Report post

Im scared for what will happen to this team in the next couple months. Saw a report on ESPN saying something like "Ravens possibly eyeing seismic changes in favor of salary cap situation".

If im not mistaking, Ravens are 15 mil under the cap, which is great. Ray retiring and possibly Birk retiring frees up another 11 mil about. So 26 mil under. If Flacco is tagged, we have about 12 mil right? So what seismic changes are needed to keep a few of our free agents? I dont get it. We all know Cary Williams wont be back.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic, article was on McKinnie and the O-line not recievers, and rumors · Report post

I think the Ravens keep either Ellerbe/Reed or just Kruger. No way to keep all 3 with the cap space right now with Joes deal coming.
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I'd sign him to a two yr deal with a weight and workout provision. Hes still an excellent LT and they are hard to find. Hes a little up there in age but he rested a lot this year.
Hes the best we have and if we want to keep Joe upright and clean we need the best.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic, article was on McKinnie and the O-line not recievers, and rumors · Report post

I don't think we are going to cut Anquan Boldin now. He is our consistant playmaker. Torrey Smith is a playmaker, but Q makes more catchs and is more consistant. I think we should keep McKinnie, he played very well. If he comes in next season in shape and ready to play, he could be great. Oher is a lot better on the Right side, we need him to stay there.

Im worried about this offseason, i know we are going to lose people we don't want to. But its a buisness and it happens. One name I read was Vonta Leach, which i really hope isn't true.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic, article was on McKinnie and the O-line not recievers, and rumors · Report post

And I would honestly rather have Ellerbe and Kruger over Reed. Reed only has a year or 2 left, while the other 2 could be here for atleast 4 or 5 more and on. We need to strengthen the middle of our D, and that starts at LB and the interior DL. We need a DL to play alongside of Ngata.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic · Report post

http://russellstreetreport.com/ravens-2013-free-agency-preview-2/

I encourage people to read the article above. It's a pretty good breakdown of where we stand in regards to the Salary cap currently.

RavenManiac...

1. I think you are a bit off in your cap numbers, but even playing with the numbers you provided, we still have issues. If Flacco is franchised, it's not guaranteed he would be franchise at 14 million. In my opinion, he's more likely to get the exclusive tag, which is for $20 mil, not 14. That would put you at $6 mil in free cap space in your scenario.

That $6 mil is already including Birk and Lewis as retirements, and doesn't take into account the fact that McKinnie, Kruger, and Ellerbe are all FAs. I would bet each of those three could easily command a $6 million a year cap number in 2013, meaning two of them likely wouldn't return.

The point is... I don't envision a scenario where we don't lose at least two starters both offensively and defensively this offseason, and likely 3 on each side.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic · Report post

And I forgot to include Ed Reed in that list of players under FA.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, February 9, 2013 - Off topic · Report post

We have to keep Ellerbe and Boldin. If we can, Kruger and Reed would come next. McKinnie has played well but I feel we could cope without him, but I'd hate to lose any of those first 4!Unfortunately though I think it's inevitable we lose at least one of them, probably two.
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Well we have seen what Joe can do when he has time to driop back and pass the football. If we go into 2013-14 without a rookie or Bryant Mckinnie at left tackle all the good will that this offense got in the post season will be gone. Oher is not a left tackle sorry,Osemele is a better guard,Jah Reid might be able to play left tackle(he is not a guard)IMO bringing Bryant Mckinnie back or the draft are the only options you sign your franchise QB to BIG MONEY you have to protect him. Going flea market on the oline is unexceptable. Mckinnie,Osemele,Gradkowski,Yanda,Oher should be the starters for 13-14 IMO
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I was believed in Michael Oher all season, but when I saw McKinnie and the disparity between him and Oher I was shocked and regretful I didn't hop on the train earlier. Unfortunately, it might be too late.

But hey, it's Oher's third try at LT. And third times the charm, right Charm City?
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Hopefully we effectively squashed demand for McKinnie by sitting him most of the year. He already had a tarnished reputation after being cut for being fat by Minnesota. We end up being the only option he has left. We get a similar year out of him next season --- disappointing regular season, ready to go for a playoff stretch.
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I hope we can figure out a way to keep McKinnie and that he wants to play for us. Big improvement on our OL play when he was playing. 'Nuff said.
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[quote name='accuscoresteve' timestamp='1360364507' post='1350791']
Hopefully we effectively squashed demand for McKinnie by sitting him most of the year.[/quote]

I'm afraid, the clear contrast between the o-line without him and the one with him if anything, just raised interest in him. And I'm sure he'll find a team who will give him the money he asks for.

I'd be happy to see him back, I guess we can say if there is a good time to start getting younger, this is our best time. We've got the trophy, we have that stupid "super bowl window closing" monkey off our backs, we can afford getting a bit brave about getting younger. If we don't replace them with similar veterans, we're suddenly gonna have a much younger roster.

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What ever happens with McKinnie, we need a left tackle. IDC what the front office says, I don't believe, and I don't think they truly believe, Michael Oher is the answer.
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