Who Is The Ravens?

[Steelerkillers]

Look, Everyone Needs to realize who this team really is. (OFFENSIVELY),THEY HAVE A ROOKIE HEAD COACH, A ROOKIE QB, A YOUNG OFFENSIVE-LINE, 2 YOUNG RUNNERS IN THE BACKFIELD & (SHORT)WIDE-RECEIVERS. thats a recipe for desaster for any team in the league. (DEFENSIVE), A GREAT MIDDLE LINE-BACKER AT THE POINT OF RETIREMENT, TWO CORNERBACKS WHO CANT STAY HEALTHY, A SAFETY WHO LIFTS WEIGHTS WITH RAY LEWIS WHICH SLOWS HIM DOWN FROM MAKING (GAME-CHANGING) PLAYS AS HE USED TO.

THEREFORE, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR TEAM IS RIDICULOUS!!! ANY WIN THEY GET AGAINST THE GOOD TEAMS ARE A PLUS. WINNING ON THE ROAD AGAINST ANYONE IS A PLUS. THIS TEAM IS IN ITS GROWING STAGES. SO,LETS SIT BACK AND RELAX AND SUPPORT THEIR GROWTH.

WHAT DO YOU EXPERTS THINK?

[Lets_Go_Joe]

Who are the Ravens?

Ok, we are a team that had an 8-8 cieling this year pre season, they have performed well above expectations so far, making everyone think the impossible was possible. We have problems, mostly in the depth of the OL and DB posistions. Ray still has 2-3 years in my opinion. Reed isnt 100% and hasn't been all year, yet he still makes plays.

We are a team that needs to keep our head on our shoulders, hope guys get healthy, and show up every week.

This team is far ahead of what anyone thought they could be at this point in the season, the future looks bright

Edit: No need to yell, we're all friends here

[Moderator 3]

Reminder: posting in all caps is a violation of our Code of Conduct.

[YABOY]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92632' date='Nov 19 2008, 04:04 PM']Look, Everyone Needs to realize who this team really is. (OFFENSIVELY),THEY HAVE A ROOKIE HEAD COACH, A ROOKIE QB, A YOUNG OFFENSIVE-LINE, 2 YOUNG RUNNERS IN THE BACKFIELD & (SHORT)WIDE-RECEIVERS. thats a recipe for desaster for any team in the league. (DEFENSIVE), A GREAT MIDDLE LINE-BACKER AT THE POINT OF RETIREMENT, TWO CORNERBACKS WHO CANT STAY HEALTHY, A SAFETY WHO LIFTS WEIGHTS WITH RAY LEWIS WHICH SLOWS HIM DOWN FROM MAKING (GAME-CHANGING) PLAYS AS HE USED TO.

THEREFORE, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR TEAM IS RIDICULOUS!!! ANY WIN THEY GET AGAINST THE GOOD TEAMS ARE A PLUS. WINNING ON THE ROAD AGAINST ANYONE IS A PLUS. THIS TEAM IS IN ITS GROWING STAGES. SO,LETS SIT BACK AND RELAX AND SUPPORT THEIR GROWTH.

WHAT DO YOU EXPERTS THINK?[/quote]
the expectation are not ridiculous this city loves the ravens this isn't new york or philly were they are bandwagon fans even when they lose they get support & when they win we think they do something big this year like make the playoffs or something & nothing is wrong with that

[bce086]

Why do you even bother to make this post?

[jfc13]

[quote name='YABOY' post='92642' date='Nov 19 2008, 03:34 PM']the expectation are not ridiculous this city loves the ravens this isn't new york or philly were they are bandwagon fans even when they lose they get support & when they win we think they do something big this year like make the playoffs or something & nothing is wrong with that[/quote]
Right. Nothing is wrong with having lofty hopes as long as we don't berate the team if they don't reach them. I think they have already exceeded pre-season expectations - at least in the excitement I feel before each game.

[Bazard]

I don't know if you remember guy but the Patriots had a 2nd yr qb a bunch of short receivers no and running back the 1st time they won the Superbowl and the 2nd and the third time they won also (minus the second year part)

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92632' date='Nov 19 2008, 03:04 PM']Look, Everyone Needs to realize who this team really is. (OFFENSIVELY),THEY HAVE A ROOKIE HEAD COACH, A ROOKIE QB, A YOUNG OFFENSIVE-LINE, 2 YOUNG RUNNERS IN THE BACKFIELD & (SHORT)WIDE-RECEIVERS. thats a recipe for desaster for any team in the league. (DEFENSIVE), A GREAT MIDDLE LINE-BACKER AT THE POINT OF RETIREMENT, TWO CORNERBACKS WHO CANT STAY HEALTHY, A SAFETY WHO LIFTS WEIGHTS WITH RAY LEWIS WHICH SLOWS HIM DOWN FROM MAKING (GAME-CHANGING) PLAYS AS HE USED TO.

THEREFORE, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR TEAM IS RIDICULOUS!!! ANY WIN THEY GET AGAINST THE GOOD TEAMS ARE A PLUS. WINNING ON THE ROAD AGAINST ANYONE IS A PLUS. THIS TEAM IS IN ITS GROWING STAGES. SO,LETS SIT BACK AND RELAX AND SUPPORT THEIR GROWTH.

WHAT DO YOU EXPERTS THINK?[/quote]

I think you lost everybody with this post that you must have spent 30 seconds thinking about. By the way, you misspelled "disaster". I'm not being the English police, but it shows you didn't even read over your work. You can sit in the past and be thankful we squeezed out 6 wins so far. Maybe you were one of the "We'll be lucky to win more than 2 games" fan. However, if you were a real student of the game you would know that we are more like 2006 team than whatever we were in 2007. Our entire team was injured, sitting out of the game, or playing hurt. Boller was our starting QB. We were actually 4-2 before we went on a downward spiral out of control where nothing went right for us, and we could stop ourselves from fumbling the football (at least 5 times in most games). I don't see Ray retiring next year or possibly the year after that, he is playing for another championship ring. Fabian is coming into his own and Samari has had 2 picks in the past 2 games. He can still make plays. Reed might lift with Ray, but that doesn't mean he trains like a MLB. Ray got faster because he's been training for speed and endurance, so how can that make Reed slower? To go from where we were last season to where we are now as a team is a gift to the fans. It is possible through the constant hard work of our players and the great preparation from our fantastic staff. 6-4 isn't good enough for the strives we have made thus far. It is impossible to ask people to stop cheering as loud as we are or caring about our team as much as we do. It might be a "stretch" to consider ourselves Super Bowl Champions already, but there is nothing ridiculous about hope. Hope is what has helped us to come together as a team and as a city; to pick ourselves up from last year, dust ourselves off, and fight no matter how bad people expected us to be. We are not fighting like warriors through this season for the media, for the prestige, or for the fame. This season is for ourselves; for our team, for our franchise, for our fans, for and our city.

[Steelerkillers]

thats cool. you're right.but,the chances for the patriots' success doesn't just happen to everybody.do me a favor.Name another team who achieved the same success as the Pats to with an inexperienced QB.So really,theres nuthin for us to debate.theres your answer!!!!!

The Pats didnt have as much inexperienced players as we have.Heres the sum, We're Injured&Inexperienced.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='92635' date='Nov 19 2008, 03:17 PM']Who are the Ravens?

Ok, we are a team that had an 8-8 cieling this year pre season, they have performed well above expectations so far, making everyone think the impossible was possible. We have problems, mostly in the depth of the OL and DB posistions. Ray still has 2-3 years in my opinion. Reed isnt 100% and hasn't been all year, yet he still makes plays.

We are a team that needs to keep our head on our shoulders, hope guys get healthy, and show up every week.

This team is far ahead of what anyone thought they could be at this point in the season, the future looks bright

Edit: No need to yell, we're all friends here[/quote]


Thank you, Del. State. I see you passed all of your English classes.

[Perfekt]

the steelers did almost the same thing with big ben.


and oh yea when we make the playoffs dont ride this wagon cuz we dont need your support

[flynismo]

[quote name='Perfekt' post='92689' date='Nov 19 2008, 05:44 PM']the steelers did almost the same thing with big ben.


and oh yea when we make the playoffs dont ride this wagon cuz we dont need your support[/quote]


Yep, WHEN we make the playoffs is right...anything can happen over the next 6 weeks, but I would be very surprised if we dont finish at least 10-6, maybe even 11-5. Either way that would get us a wildcard this year at the minimum.
I don't know why everyone was so down on us coming into the season. When you suffer the injuries we did last year, it shouldnt be a surprise that we went 5-11. But look at the year before, when our entire defense was more or less healthy. We were dominant, going 13-3. That was with a washed up Steve McNair and a moping, ineffective Jamal Lewis leading our offense. Did anyone really think that coming into this season that Troy Smith (who we thought would start) would perform worse than McNair did last year? Or didn't anyone realize that having a healthy Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle, Trevor Pryce and Ed Reed returning to our defense would be significant?
I thought that 10 games was a lock for us this year, assuming we stayed healthy. And if Troy Smith or Flacco played well, I thought a repeat of 2006 was in the cards.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='92635' date='Nov 19 2008, 03:17 PM']Who are the Ravens?

Ok, we are a team that had an 8-8 cieling this year pre season, they have performed well above expectations so far, making everyone think the impossible was possible. We have problems, mostly in the depth of the OL and DB posistions. Ray still has 2-3 years in my opinion. Reed isnt 100% and hasn't been all year, yet he still makes plays.

We are a team that needs to keep our head on our shoulders, hope guys get healthy, and show up every week.

This team is far ahead of what anyone thought they could be at this point in the season, the future looks bright

Edit: No need to yell, we're all friends here[/quote]


I was about to point that out also.. Who IS the RAVENS.. hahaa.

[Steelerkillers]

Look, having hopes, and expecting too much out of your team are two different things. its okay to hope the best for your team. but, considering the team we have, we're in no place to compare them to the success of the Pats. that type of success doesnt happen often. Fans who choose to point out all positives and ignore things we need to improve on are the ones who jump ship and find another teams to support.Not considering the fact that every team has flaws and will lose sometimes as a result.Those arent real Fans!!!

OH, for the Harvard Grads/Jimmy Neutrons who choose to make spelling a big deal,there isn't a word with more than 3 letters any of you are incapable of misspelling. Even hitting the wrong key at times will be the cause.(Thats Real)!!

To the Frederick,MD person, the only wagon you're ridin is the one from Frederick to Ravenstown to support my team. I was born,raised & still live here in B-more. I inherited the right to be a Fan. You We're given the priveledge to be a Fan.Theres a Big Difference (Freddy). If you once lived here and left, Tooooo bad.cheer for the steelers like every other western Maryland person.

Im not here to argue with you people. Im just here stating the facts. the facts may be too brutally honest for some people.Well, i cant help that! Instead of people responding to what i claim to be Facts & prove them to be fiction, They highlighted misspelled words.Come on maaaaan! im pretty sure all of you made the same mistakes in the forum. (Be Real). Im honest enough to say that i don't check over my words when im done.Thats my choice. I know y'all Ain't dumb enough to misunderstand or fail to comprehend what im tryin to say, because every one of you guys responded.

Oh, Im new to this forum stuff. I didnt read the terms/conditions.i was so happy to fellowship with other fans,i didnt pay it any attention.as a result,i used Caps to frequently and offended some people.(I apologize)!! Can We All Jus Get Along!!!!!!

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92736' date='Nov 19 2008, 07:23 PM']Look, having hopes, and expecting too much out of your team are two different things. its okay to hope the best for your team. but, considering the team we have, we're in no place to compare them to the success of the Pats. that type of success doesnt happen often. Fans who choose to point out all positives and ignore things we need to improve on are the ones who jump ship and find another teams to support.Not considering the fact that every team has flaws and will lose sometimes as a result.Those arent real Fans!!!

OH, for the Harvard Grads/Jimmy Neutrons who choose to make spelling a big deal,there isn't a word with more than 3 letters any of you are incapable of misspelling. Even hitting the wrong key at times will be the cause.(Thats Real)!!

To the Frederick,MD person, the only wagon you're ridin is the one from Frederick to Ravenstown to support my team. I was born,raised & still live here in B-more. I inherited the right to be a Fan. You We're given the priveledge to be a Fan.Theres a Big Difference (Freddy). If you once lived here and left, Tooooo bad.cheer for the steelers like every other western Maryland person.

Im not here to argue with you people. Im just here stating the facts. the facts may be too brutally honest for some people.Well, i cant help that! Instead of people responding to what i claim to be Facts & prove them to be fiction, They highlighted misspelled words.Come on maaaaan! im pretty sure all of you made the same mistakes in the forum. (Be Real). Im honest enough to say that i don't check over my words when im done.Thats my choice. I know y'all Ain't dumb enough to misunderstand or fail to comprehend what im tryin to say, because every one of you guys responded.

Oh, Im new to this forum stuff. I didnt read the terms/conditions.i was so happy to fellowship with other fans,i didnt pay it any attention.as a result,i used Caps to frequently and offended some people.(I apologize)!! Can We All Jus Get Along!!!!!![/quote]

You're new to this forum stuff? Well I'm here to help! Let me be your first tour guide on your way into [b] Happy, Happy Forum Land [/b]. Some basic rules:

1) Reads the terms and conditions.
2) If you don't read the terms and conditions, accept the response you get from the moderators and move on. Trying to explain-away your lack of effort in reading the terms and conditions just makes you seem silly like me, and you don't want that.
3) The third rule, and possibly the most important: Don't ever, for the remainder of your life, question a fan's resolve or dedication based on geography. Just because you plopped onto planet Earth in the general vicinity of the stadium doesn't mean diddly-squat.
4) Learn to use the English language in a manner that requires minimal translation by other English speakers. Typos will happen as you pointed out. Submitting posts means you're asking people to read the words on the screen. If it looks like your keyboard barfed, you're going to get a response that may not be to your liking. Don't ask us to dumb-down our eyes. "Smarten-up" your fingers.
5) Your truth is not the absolute truth, no matter how far you ram your fingers into your ears as you shout, "Lalalalalala" to drown out the logic surrounding you. Trust me, I've tried that route and it doesn't work... much.
6) You're welcome here if your intention is to be a part of the community. [i]Speak with them, not at them[/i]. I'm a forum "noob" here too. There are some darn nice people on these boards and they'll provide you with some interesting insights on the Ravens and other topics too. Just remember that friendliness starts and ends with you. Others don't make you act a certain way or type a certain word, regardless of what you may think. Decide to be nice to the nice people, and you'll have a good time.
7) Oh yes, the last forum rule is to send the Christmas cookies to me, and soon. You need to take into consideration shipping and handling time.

Enjoy.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92736' date='Nov 19 2008, 07:23 PM']To the Frederick,MD person, the only wagon you're ridin is the one from Frederick to Ravenstown to support my team. I was born,raised & still live here in B-more. I inherited the right to be a Fan. You We're given the priveledge to be a Fan.Theres a Big Difference (Freddy). If you once lived here and left, Tooooo bad.cheer for the steelers like every other western Maryland person.[/quote]

Chill. We're all fans here. And like Zhamtao pointed out, being born in Baltimore doesn't make you no better or worse of a fan than a Ravens fan living in Germany (which we have around here). There's no such thing as "inheriting" fanhood; every fan has to start somewhere, so essentially, every fan was a bandwagon fan of this team at one point or another, especially since the Ravens are only in their 13th season of play.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='92750' date='Nov 19 2008, 08:19 PM']Chill. We're all fans here. And like Zhamtao pointed out, being born in Baltimore doesn't make you no better or worse of a fan than a Ravens fan living in Germany (which we have around here). There's no such thing as "inheriting" fanhood; every fan has to start somewhere, so essentially, every fan was a bandwagon fan of this team at one point or another, especially since the Ravens are only in their 13th season of play.[/quote]

...and Christmas cookies. Don't forget the cookies.

[wolfzie06]

Honestly, I didn't think we would even be a .500 team this year, but we have looked pretty good. I am pleasantly surprised.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='92750' date='Nov 19 2008, 08:19 PM']Chill. We're all fans here. And like Zhamtao pointed out, being born in Baltimore doesn't make you no better or worse of a fan than a Ravens fan living in Germany (which we have around here). There's no such thing as "inheriting" fanhood; every fan has to start somewhere, so essentially, every fan was a bandwagon fan of this team at one point or another, especially since the Ravens are only in their 13th season of play.[/quote]
Yeah the idea of being more of a fan because you live in Baltimore is ridiculous. Anyone who wants to support this team in the good times and bad times is a fan, no matter the location.

I'm from the eastern shore, but I will bet I am just as much of a fan as anyone else around these boards. There are people all over the country, hell even all over the world that post here. Location isnt what makes you a fan, its the support you give to the team. We can all get along for sure, questioning fanhood doesnt fly too much around here though. We're all fans, which is why we post here.

You dont question the fanhood lol

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Bvk70VsI4&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Bvk70VsI4...feature=related[/url]

[flynismo]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92736' date='Nov 19 2008, 07:23 PM']Look, having hopes, and expecting too much out of your team are two different things. its okay to hope the best for your team. but, considering the team we have, we're in no place to compare them to the success of the Pats. that type of success doesnt happen often. Fans who choose to point out all positives and ignore things we need to improve on are the ones who jump ship and find another teams to support.Not considering the fact that every team has flaws and will lose sometimes as a result.Those arent real Fans!!!

OH, for the Harvard Grads/Jimmy Neutrons who choose to make spelling a big deal,there isn't a word with more than 3 letters any of you are incapable of misspelling. Even hitting the wrong key at times will be the cause.(Thats Real)!!

To the Frederick,MD person, the only wagon you're ridin is the one from Frederick to Ravenstown to support my team. I was born,raised & still live here in B-more. I inherited the right to be a Fan. You We're given the priveledge to be a Fan.Theres a Big Difference (Freddy). If you once lived here and left, Tooooo bad.cheer for the steelers like every other western Maryland person.

Im not here to argue with you people. Im just here stating the facts. the facts may be too brutally honest for some people.Well, i cant help that! Instead of people responding to what i claim to be Facts & prove them to be fiction, They highlighted misspelled words.Come on maaaaan! im pretty sure all of you made the same mistakes in the forum. (Be Real). Im honest enough to say that i don't check over my words when im done.Thats my choice. I know y'all Ain't dumb enough to misunderstand or fail to comprehend what im tryin to say, because every one of you guys responded.

Oh, Im new to this forum stuff. I didnt read the terms/conditions.i was so happy to fellowship with other fans,i didnt pay it any attention.as a result,i used Caps to frequently and offended some people.(I apologize)!! Can We All Jus Get Along!!!!!![/quote]


I think, most of us at least, understand the difference between being optimistic and expecting too much. The whole debate here is where we draw the line between optimism and unrealistic expectations. Everyone is free to state facts to back their point of view, but ultimately our expectations of the team is just an opinion. No point in arguing over opinions, just share them.

[Truefan]

I think you all are over-reacting to what steelerkillers is saying. especially for the disrespect with regards to misspelled words. We're all suject to human error and the inability to spell certain words. im pretty sure theres isn't 3 people in this forum who are English Majors. If there are, so what and who cares. there are some things you just can't (whit) your way out of, or earn a degree in.(that would be your nasty-negative-judgemental attitude). Nobody's perfect here,except the (Titans).we're here to talk football.

Steelerkillers is right about the flaws we have as a team. they definitely have room for growth. concidering the team we have, being 6-4 is an excellent record thus far. i believe we are better than the teams we've lost to.but, our beliefs can only get us so far.we have to start beating the better teams in order to gain some kinda respect from Espn or other teams around the league.i think losing to those good teams shows us what we need to improve on.believing we are one of the good teams,and beating the good team are 2 different things.

Every teams has flaws.its just more hurtful for us as Ravens fans because we know what our team is capable of.they always seem to come up a little short at the end of games.if we can x-out the mental errors,stay healthy and don't give the refs/officials any reason to help our opponents,we wouldn't be 6-4 but 9-1.the only game we truely lost was against the Colts.

[Gwaihir]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92682' date='Nov 19 2008, 06:24 PM']thats cool. you're right.but,the chances for the patriots' success doesn't just happen to everybody.do me a favor.Name another team who achieved the same success as the Pats to with an inexperienced QB.So really,theres nuthin for us to debate.theres your answer!!!!!

The Pats didnt have as much inexperienced players as we have.Heres the sum, We're Injured&Inexperienced.[/quote]

How about the Rams in '99! I think Curt Warner played Euro ball and checked groceries the year before he took the Rams to the SuperBowl Title! He wasn't even the starter when the season began, but was forced to start when, I can't remember, was it Ferotte, their starting QB went down for the year.

Anyway, anything is possible as long as we can keep getting good play from our Offensive Tackles!

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Truefan' post='92895' date='Nov 20 2008, 01:19 PM']im pretty sure theres isn't 3 people in this forum who are English Majors.[/quote]

I'm one.

[quote name='Truefan' post='92895' date='Nov 20 2008, 01:19 PM']If there are, so what and who cares.[/quote]

I care! (lol, just kidding)

[BuckWilds]

I've got $50 that say Truefan is Steelerkillers...

[noy]

[quote name='Truefan' post='92895' date='Nov 20 2008, 01:19 PM']I think you all are over-reacting to what steelerkillers is saying. especially for the disrespect with regards to misspelled words. [b]We're all suject to human error and the inability to spell certain words. im pretty sure theres isn't 3 people in this forum who are English Majors.[/b] If there are, so what and who cares. there are some things you just can't (whit) your way out of, or earn a degree in.(that would be your nasty-negative-judgemental attitude). Nobody's perfect here,except the (Titans).we're here to talk football.[/quote]

It's not about being English majors, it's about the strength of the statement made. The message in the argument is only as strong as the language used; if you don't take the time and effort to argue in clear and concise sentences then I'm not going to take the time to read it. I made an exception in your case because I feel like this needed to be cleared up.

I don't expect the Ravens to even make the playoffs, as I actually think it would be a waste of time. There's no point in being mediocre in the playoffs, and lets face it, we're an average football team. That's why what the Giants did last year was exceptional; they made history again by winning the SB as a wildcard team, and also stopped the history setting record by defeating the undefeated Patriots. I don't see us in the position that the Giants were in last year because we have too many new faces. To expect that would be unrealistic, to hope for it would be reasonable. Do I expect the Ravens to go far? Not really, but do I hope? Yea I do because even if we made the playoffs it would give us so much of a boost for next season.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='92944' date='Nov 20 2008, 05:11 PM']I've got $50 that say Truefan is Steelerkillers...

[/quote]

What did it for you? Was it [u]the .then [/u]a new sentence like this? Or the lower cased i's????? I've bolded some examples. It's all good.

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='92736' date='Nov 19 2008, 07:23 PM']Look, having hopes, and expecting too much out of your team are two different [b]things. its [/b]okay to hope the best for your [b]team. but[/b], considering the team we have, we're in no place to compare them to the success of the Pats. that type of success doesnt happen often. Fans who choose to point out all positives and ignore things we need to improve on are the ones who jump ship and find another teams to [b]support.Not[/b] considering the fact that every team has flaws and will lose sometimes as a result.Those arent real Fans!!!

I was born,raised & still live here in B-more. I inherited the right to be a Fan. You We're given the priveledge to be a Fan.Theres a Big Difference (Freddy). If you once lived here and left, Tooooo[b] bad.cheer[/b] for the steelers like every other western Maryland person.

Im not here to argue with you people. Im just here stating the facts. the facts may be too brutally honest for some people.Well, i cant help that! Instead of people responding to what[b] i [/b]claim to be Facts & prove them to be fiction, They highlighted misspelled words.Come on maaaaan! im pretty sure all of you made the same mistakes in the forum. (Be Real). Im honest enough to say that i don't check over my words when im done.Thats my choice. I know y'all Ain't dumb enough to misunderstand or fail to comprehend what im tryin to say, because every one of you guys responded.

Oh, Im new to this forum stuff. I didnt read the terms/[b]conditions.i[/b] was so happy to fellowship with other fans[b],i [/b]didnt pay it any attention.as a [b]result,i [/b]used Caps to frequently and offended some people.(I apologize)!! Can We All Jus Get Along!!!!!![/quote]


[quote name='Truefan' post='92895' date='Nov 20 2008, 01:19 PM']I think you all are over-reacting to what steelerkillers is saying. especially for the disrespect with regards to misspelled words. We're all suject to human error and the inability to spell certain [b]words. im[/b] pretty sure theres isn't 3 people in this forum who are English Majors. If there are, so what and who cares. there are some things you just can't (whit) your way out of, or earn a degree in.(that would be your nasty-negative-judgemental attitude). Nobody's perfect here,except the [b](Titans).we're [/b]here to talk football.

Steelerkillers is right about the flaws we have as a team. they definitely have room for growth. concidering the team we have, being 6-4 is an excellent record thus far. [b]i [/b]believe we are better than the teams we've lost[b] to.but,[/b] our beliefs can only get us so far.we have to start beating the better teams in order to gain some kinda respect from Espn or other teams around the [b]league.i [/b]think losing to those good teams shows us what we need to improve [b]on.believing [/b]we are one of the good teams,and beating the good team are 2 different things.[/quote]

[Truefan]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='92944' date='Nov 20 2008, 05:11 PM']I've got $50 that say Truefan is Steelerkillers...

[/quote]
I've got $100 that say people who strap bombs to themselves creates such a username.(zhamtao)???????????
what tha............!!!

If thats ya real name,that sucksss!

If i am steelerkillers,thats wasssup.but,you're the only weirdo who would sit around to figure that out.
So what if i agreed with him!some of his statements were factual.A self-centered,Bias fan is as worst as any bandwagon fan.
If you don't consider or accept the flaws of your team,you will jump ship, or atleast attempt to,everytime the Ravens don't exceed your expectations.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Truefan' post='92974' date='Nov 20 2008, 07:23 PM']If i am steelerkillers,thats wasssup.but,you're the only weirdo who would sit around to figure that out.[/quote]

lmao...well played....

[quote]So what if i agreed with him!some of his statements were factual.A self-centered,Bias fan is as worst as any bandwagon fan.
If you don't consider or accept the flaws of your team,you will jump ship, or atleast attempt to,everytime the Ravens don't exceed your expectations.[/quote]

I don't mind biased fans. Biased fans are true fans who love their team; they are miserable all week when we lose and won't shut the f up when we win. I love that people have that much passion for our team (their opinions may not always be credible, but so what?), it's not even comparable to the bandwagon jumpers.

[CTravenfan]

every team has flaws, it's who can overcome them. So far this season we have done pretty well despite having many flaws. We have played very well this year and have tons of potential, if we can keep improving we will be a great team...this year. And why can't fans be optimistic about their team, that is why we are fans. I hate fans that are so pessimistic about their team, especially when we have a winning record. What is wrong with all these so called "fans" hating on their own team. It simply disgust me

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='Truefan' post='92895' date='Nov 20 2008, 01:19 PM']I think you all are over-reacting to what steelerkillers is saying. especially for the disrespect with regards to misspelled words. We're all suject to human error and the inability to spell certain words.

im pretty sure theres isn't 3 people in this forum who are English Majors. If there are, so what and who cares. there are some things you just can't (whit) your way out of, or earn a degree in.(that would be your nasty-negative-judgemental attitude). Nobody's perfect here,except the (Titans).we're here to talk football.

Steelerkillers is right about the flaws we have as a team. they definitely have room for growth. concidering the team we have, being 6-4 is an excellent record thus far. i believe we are better than the teams we've lost to.but, our beliefs can only get us so far.we have to start beating the better teams in order to gain some kinda respect from Espn or other teams around the league.i think losing to those good teams shows us what we need to improve on.believing we are one of the good teams,and beating the good team are 2 different things.

Every teams has flaws.its just more hurtful for us as Ravens fans because we know what our team is capable of.they always seem to come up a little short at the end of games.if we can x-out the mental errors,stay healthy and don't give the refs/officials any reason to help our opponents,we wouldn't be 6-4 but 9-1.the only game we truely lost was against the Colts.[/quote]

"Inability to spell certain words"? Now who's insulting who? We're not saying you...(i mean) he's a moron, just lazy. No one can have an inability to spell words correctly, it's called a dictionary, spell check, or English class. I think if you download firefox, they have an automatic spell check on what you type in an e-mail or in a post. Face it, this is a post. We can only communicate by reading what you write and people are going to look at how you write it. It serves you better to use correct grammer (for the most part) so people spend more time on the content instead of the mistakes. Plus, we're picking on you/him because we feel his topic is degrading the team and the hard work they put forth to be where we are. We are 7-4 barely out of first place in the division (1.5 games) and in good place to get a wild card, which is a fantastic position to be in considering where we were last year. Why the hell would we want to talk about our our flaws? No team can be perfect, but we have all been discussing our flaws the ENTIRE off-season. It's time to stop and celebrate our progress going forward as a team. As for ESPN, who cares about what ESPN thinks?? They have their favorite teams that they talk about and "the rest". They do it in every sport, which leads me to think they don't know what they're talking about. If a team is good now, it should matter what they did in the past or if they're popular or not. They should give credit where credit is due. They should stop talking about the Cowboys and talk about the teams that look good to go to the playoffs. Where is the talk about the NY Jets, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Atlanta, Cardinals, or Ravens? They have all done very well this season and have turned around losing records into playoff berths. ESPN might not respect our hard work, but other teams around the league have a lot of respect for us. They know our defense is incredible, our offense should not be overlooked anymore, and our fans are as intense and extreme as they get.

Steelerkiller's key points about a rookie coach, young O-line, and young running backs, short wide receivers, etc don't make sense. They show inexperience, but in no way does that mean they're bad or that they can't produce (ie: Adrian Paterson, Matt Forte, Matt Ryan, HC Mike Smith, HC Tony Sparano, Santana Moss, Steve Smith). This leads me to wonder if he reads about football or if he actually watches it. We may look bad on paper, but we look great in action.