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[Gashman]

I don't have the particulars on his contract, but I thought I heard we were close in number to resigning Grubbs. It's a shame JJ and Redding couldn't be here for this either.

It does beg the question in a cap strapped Super Bowl contender, would you be willing to take less for a ring? Or even just to be part of this organization. It is family here, but I realize you have to take care of your family.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

I think they knew what they were doing when the chose bigger contracts elsewhere. I wish they could have been a part of this, but business is business

[CosmicRedPanda]

I know the reports have been in the $100M range for Joe... but honestly, I don't see him asking for that much. If he wants to be a contender for years to come, I can see Joe settling for something in the $60-70M range.

That being said, I think it's a personal preference... either you're in it for the money... or you're in it for the accolades. You can't have both.

You know who I feel the most sorry for right now... Larry Fitzgerald... 'cause he ain't never getting a ring.

Edited by CosmicRedPanda, 04 February 2013 - 09:11 PM.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't have the particulars on his contract, but I thought I heard we were close in number to resigning Grubbs. It's a shame JJ and Redding couldn't be here for this either.

It does beg the question in a cap strapped Super Bowl contender, would you be willing to take less for a ring? Or even just to be part of this organization. It is family here, but I realize you have to take care of your family.

I honestly believe the FO let Redding & JJ walk. I don't think they seriously pursued them. Possibly that's because they were tied up in Grubbs & Rice, as well as Webb, Pollard & Williams. Two out of those four isn't bad, nor is three out of 7. Personally, I'm glad we have Pollard, Webb & Rice locked up for years. It's a shame we lost Redding--could have really used him. Still, Jones has STEPPED UP on a ladder and I'm seriously impressed by his skill.

[bauer77]

It really is a shame that JJ couldn't be here to finally get a ring. He was one of the most underrated LB's in the league over the years.

[gilgamesh]

I don't particularly feel bad for anyone we lost last offseason. However, I wish there was a way for Heap and Mase to be a part of this SB run.

[PuRock]

Its really hard to know who will win the championship in any given year. So you have to treat yourself like a business first. Grubbs made the right choice from that standpoint. He got paid and he went to a contender. Protecting Drew Brees of all people. Can't hold that against him.

A lot of guys don't have ties to Baltimore like the fans. We want them to, but that's not reality.

[gabefergy]

I know the reports have been in the $100M range for Joe... but honestly, I don't see him asking for that much. If he wants to be a contender for years to come, I can see Joe settling for something in the $60-70M range.

That being said, I think it's a personal preference... either you're in it for the money... or you're in it for the accolades. You can't have both.

You know who I feel the most sorry for right now... Larry Fitzgerald... 'cause he ain't never getting a ring.

I don't think he is looking to make 20M a year as some reports have indicated, but he will almost assuredly have a deal over 100M. Probably something like 7 years, 120M with 50M guaranteed.

[Moderator 2]

JJ was slowing down as was Mase and the often injured Heap. As Ravens fans we will always love them. My son keeps asking me if all cities feel about their team like Baltimore does-- I think definitely GreenBay and Chicago, Pittsburgh I could be wrong.

[Footman DCXLV]

I know the reports have been in the $100M range for Joe... but honestly, I don't see him asking for that much. If he wants to be a contender for years to come, I can see Joe settling for something in the $60-70M range.

I'd be shocked if he doesn't get a $100 million contract, but the key is how long the contract is for (big difference between $100 million for five years, or for seven), and how much is guaranteed.
I don't know much about how contracts are written, but we've been saying "In Ozzie we trust" for years, right? Joe is a confident guy who isn't willing to ask for what he feels he deserves, but there's no reason to expect it'll hurt the team in the long run. At least, that's my position until free agency hits.

[BloodRaven]

Everyone who walked away this offseason did so for the money, now they know the grass isn't always greener.

It's awesome to see their twitter feeds stop dead before the big game.

[redrum52]

I don't have the particulars on his contract, but I thought I heard we were close in number to resigning Grubbs. It's a shame JJ and Redding couldn't be here for this either.

It does beg the question in a cap strapped Super Bowl contender, would you be willing to take less for a ring? Or even just to be part of this organization. It is family here, but I realize you have to take care of your family.

You can't just look at it one way. You could tell from JJ and Redding, they were all in last year. They fought and took smaller contracts initially to sign with the team, or resign in JJ's case. It was time for them to try and get that last big check before they essentially finish their careers. Grubb's get trash talked, and though I'm not sure on the whole topic, I think he did sort of want to stay. You can't be mad, he was paid to play on a team that had been a contender, where he plays in a dome at least 9 times a season. I'm pretty sure having to come back and play with Cameron didn't help our case either.

[poedacrow]

I don't have the particulars on his contract, but I thought I heard we were close in number to resigning Grubbs. It's a shame JJ and Redding couldn't be here for this either.

It does beg the question in a cap strapped Super Bowl contender, would you be willing to take less for a ring? Or even just to be part of this organization. It is family here, but I realize you have to take care of your family.

I would imagine most professional athletes are faced with that quandary. I've also recently heard Flacco say that this is the "best locker room" he's ever been associated with. I guess it depends on your goals and aspirations as an athlete, tempered with your responsibility to family. You've got to look out for yourself but if I were in their shoes I'd try hard as heck to concede a "hometown discount." From what I've seen and heard, its a great place to work

[quoth_the_raven_neverscore]

i was puzzled as to why jarret left, he was a veteran leadership kind of guy and we were knocking on the door of the super bowl. why the hell go to san diego of all places? and we really could have used him when suggs went down and it was musical linebackers for the first several weeks... redding i was fond of as well but him leaving made a bit more sense, clearly he had a close relation with pagano and wanted to roll with him

*shrugs* i'd be kicking myself if i were any of those guys, but who's to say what's right for them

[PurpleCorsair]

Heap and Mase are the only guys I feel bad for.

[Corvus Amplus]

Heap and Mase are the only guys I feel bad for.

True, but we don't have to feel bad anymore for the future Hall of Famer Ed Reed getting his ring.

Anquan Boldin was playing out there like there was no tomorrow because he knew this might be his only chance to be a champion. It's a shame that we might have to release or trade him to make some cap room. However, if Ozzie finds a way to extend his contract for another couple years, I think that would be huge because Boldin's game isn't built on speed, but on traffic catching and jump ball. All the redzone TDs he brought in the playoffs were tough to depend because he leaps and outmuscles any cornerbacks for the ball.

Matt Birk was steady as ever and he might decide to hang it up, but he too can keep playing.

[Bltravens]

Its really hard to know who will win the championship in any given year. So you have to treat yourself like a business first. Grubbs made the right choice from that standpoint. He got paid and he went to a contender. Protecting Drew Brees of all people. Can't hold that against him.

A lot of guys don't have ties to Baltimore like the fans. We want them to, but that's not reality.

Ehh, I still feel like Grubbs didn't even give us a chance to resign him. We obviously couldn't offer the money NO could but I still don't get the feeling Grubbs even acknowledged our offer with anything more than a "ok".

[Gashman]

True, but we don't have to feel bad anymore for the future Hall of Famer Ed Reed getting his ring.

Anquan Boldin was playing out there like there was no tomorrow because he knew this might be his only chance to be a champion. It's a shame that we might have to release or trade him to make some cap room. However, if Ozzie finds a way to extend his contract for another couple years, I think that would be huge because Boldin's game isn't built on speed, but on traffic catching and jump ball. All the redzone TDs he brought in the playoffs were tough to depend because he leaps and outmuscles any cornerbacks for the ball.

Matt Birk was steady as ever and he might decide to hang it up, but he too can keep playing.

I wonder if Boldin would consider a discount to stay, or if Joe would consider throwing some of his Boldins way to keep him here?

[Tiz]

Grubbs I believe was a money issue as well as thinking n.o. Had a shot.
Jj I didn't view as money thought he wanted to make a name for himself which I understand
Redding was up there in years.
Heap often injured
Mase I stopped liking long before he was gone

[Raven07]

I would definitely pick the ring and superbowl glory over money any day.....this is about the TEAM. a City... BALTIMORE! and we did it!........ money is a personal thing. GLORY..SUPERBOWL glory is a TEAM thing. a City thing you play this game to win the Superbowl and get this feeling and moment.

Edited by Raven07, 05 February 2013 - 12:34 PM.