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Major props to our OLINE

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-Give props to these amazing group of guys.Flacco was sacked once in Superbowl vs. a dominant 9ers front seven.

Behind all that action, these guys made it all happen for us. I cannot thank them enough. Especially Birk for comming back after thinking about retirement & for Mckinnie to step up @ the MOST PIVOTAL time.
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They played great this postseason!
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Couldn't of done it without BMAC!:D
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totally agreed. i say if we didint swith them all around, we probably wouldnt have won the superbowl. every single one them played great the entire postseason. major props!
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[size=3]After listening to every radio talk show on XM, FM, and AM, I am absolutely astonished at the lack of respect given to the Ravens O line. After the Denver game, the callers blamed the Defense for taking the day off. Same thing after the Patriot game, and today it is the same old Rhetoric. Fans are finding fault with the 49ers defense, rather than give credit to the Ravens O line. Much has been said and written about John Harbaughs firing of Cameron and replacing him with Caldwell, but I contend that the best decision he ever made was to reshuffle the O line at the start of the playoffs. These guys [/size]kept Flacco upright, and provided time for him to find receivers, and they opened holes for the running attack. Congratulations to MCkinney, Osemele, Birk, Yanda, and Oher. You guys are truly the most valuable players of the playoofs and Superbowl.
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Just re-affirms my belief we take a T in the first 2 rounds of the upcoming draft. Actually what I think we might do is trade down again, the 32nd pick doesn't hold much value when compared to a top 5 pick in the 2nd round. And we need to squeeze an extra player or two out of this draft.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1360024106' post='1345478']
Just re-affirms my belief we take a T in the first 2 rounds of the upcoming draft. Actually what I think we might do is trade down again, the 32nd pick doesn't hold much value when compared to a top 5 pick in the 2nd round. And we need to squeeze an extra player or two out of this draft.
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Alot of major talent @ safety this year. Elam, Vaccaro..probably available in #32. Not sure we take tackle as 1st choice
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He actually got sacked twice. Once when McKinnie just totally missed his assignment, and once when one of the rushers basically gave Oher a hug to get his hands on Joe.
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After Fisher, Johnson & Joeckel, I don't see another LT worthy of a 1st. I'd sooner take Faulk in the late 3rd. Or even Nixon. I think Castillo can help those guys really develop into a quality LT. Maybe take a RT, too. (Michael Oher). We have Reid, Oher, Cornell, & possibly a draft pick to be RT. We need a LT, too. McKinnie's a free agent and we all know Oher.

Who knows, though. Maybe Castillo can help Oher reach his potential.
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Absolutely. McKinnie proved a lot of people wrong, myself included. Even if he wasn't a tremendous player, and overall I still thought he was solid during this run, at the very least his presence was valuable to the rest of the group.
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I agree that we take a LT with our first pick after trading back. Also I'm excited about Gino G taking over if Birk retires.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1360026826' post='1345561']
After Fisher, Johnson & Joeckel, I don't see another LT worthy of a 1st. I'd sooner take Faulk in the late 3rd. Or even Nixon. I think Castillo can help those guys really develop into a quality LT. Maybe take a RT, too. (Michael Oher). We have Reid, Oher, Cornell, & possibly a draft pick to be RT. We need a LT, too. McKinnie's a free agent and we all know Oher.

Who knows, though. Maybe Castillo can help Oher reach his potential.
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[quote name='Bazooka Joe' timestamp='1360030176' post='1345680']
I agree that we take a LT with our first pick after trading back. Also I'm excited about Gino G taking over if Birk retires.
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The thing is, if we draft a LT(mostly likely would not trade up to get Joeckel #1 pick, that safe to say :-D?), he will need to develop. That basically means we will be forced to reshuffle again..putting Oher on LT until that rookie gets enough experience....

We have a #32 pick, I think we pick up a high talent player Elam, Vaccaro to replace Ed Reed...And groom a Nixon/Faulk like grim said on later rounds. Ideally, I want Mckinnie back. Maybe Mckinnie will be fine playing here for 2season w/ ~3m p.year paycheck, no?
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360032913' post='1345789']
The thing is, if we draft a LT(mostly likely would not trade up to get Joeckel #1 pick, that safe to say :-D?), he will need to develop. That basically means we will be forced to reshuffle again..putting Oher on LT until that rookie gets enough experience....

We have a #32 pick, i think we pick up a high talent player Elam, Vaccaro to relace Ed Reed...And groom a Nixon/Faulk like grim said on later rounds. But ideally, I want Mckinnie back. Maybe Mckinnie will be fine playing here for 2season w/ ~3m p.year paycheck, no?
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I'd really like McKinnie back for no more than 2 years. I'm seriously concerned whether he can hold up an entire season. I'm not sure if he looked good because he rested the whole year or if he was just maturing. It could be having KO next to him. It would be nice for continuity to have the line the way it is with Gradkowski brought up to center and draft a LT in the 3rd or so to groom for a year or two behind McKinnie who is a good technician--just lazy.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1360033258' post='1345802']

I'd really like McKinnie back for no more than 2 years. I'm seriously concerned whether he can hold up an entire season. I'm not sure if he looked good because he rested the whole year or if he was just maturing. It could be having KO next to him. It would be nice for continuity to have the line the way it is with Gradkowski brought up to center and draft a LT in the 3rd or so to groom for a year or two behind McKinnie who is a good technician--just lazy.
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Whatever happened this postseason, that O-line formation is the best i've ever seen in Ravens history. We need to keep it going imo.
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no doubt, our O-line should get the same recognition and appreciation as Joe gets cuz they all go hand to hand...

thank you guys!!!

Joe/Caldwell/Oline are the champ!!!
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360033480' post='1345810']
Whatever happened this postseason, that O-line formation is the best i've ever seen in Ravens history. We need to keep it going imo.
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We've had better, in fact the 09 line we had was probably better.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360034088' post='1345826']

We've had better, in fact the 09 line we had was probably better.
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Oh yeah..09' was preety good. But this is a line we can afford to keep and be very productive to stay as a SB contender next year. Why reshuffle everything again? :-/
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360035623' post='1345880']
Oh yeah..09' was preety good. But this is a line we can afford to keep and be very productive to stay as a SB contender next year. Why reshuffle everything again? :-/
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McKinnie would be nice to keep. But we need to find another LT. And considering where we draft that's unlikely. We may need and off year with only 6 wins to get this kind of offensive production.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360036009' post='1345893']

McKinnie would be nice to keep. But we need to find another LT. And considering where we draft that's unlikely. We may need and off year with only 6 wins to get this kind of offensive production.
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Drafting to lose never works..just ask the jags, browns, or chiefs. It just takes the wind out of the players, and they lose their confidence. Winning organization finds ways to keep the roster going. This year is no different. Lets keep the momentum going! We got all the pieces for another superbowl. We just need to find ways to retain them.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360037478' post='1345934']
Drafting to lose never works..just ask the jags, browns, or chiefs. It just takes the wind out of the players, and they lose their confidence. Winning organization finds ways to keep the roster going. This year is no different. Lets keep the momentum going! We got all the pieces for another superbowl. We just need to find ways to retain them.
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There's a difference between under performing and having a legitimately bad team. For instance Aldon Smith was the 7th player taken in the draft. It's just REALLY hard to find an LT that can iso against aldon smith.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360037845' post='1345939']

There's a difference between under performing and having a legitimately bad team. For instance Aldon Smith was the 7th player taken in the draft. It's just REALLY hard to find an LT that can iso against aldon smith.
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Im still not buying into the idea of losing just to get earlier picks. That sixth pick could be as much of a bust as the #32. Aka Vernon Gholston(6th pick) kind of player.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360038500' post='1345960']
Im still not buying into the idea of losing just to get earlier picks. That sixth pick could be as much of a bust as the #32. Aka Vernon Gholston(6th pick) kind of player.
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I think Ozzie could dodge a bust.

I'm not saying that we should LOSE to get the pick. I'm just saying in order to get this kind of offensive line we may need a very high pick.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360038665' post='1345963']

I think Ozzie could dodge a bust.

I'm not saying that we should LOSE to get the pick. I'm just saying in order to get this kind of offensive line we may need a very high pick.
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Understood my friend.

Anywho, hope Oz can find some gem LT. We could definately use one.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360039298' post='1345978']
Understood my friend.

Anywho, hope Oz can find some gem LT. We could definately use one.
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The only guy who we really missed on (even though he was two picks for chris chester) was andrew whittworth.

LT's are just so hard to find though.

Would you go for a Julio Jones type trade? Maybe not that high, but into the top 15.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360039423' post='1345981']

The only guy who we really missed on (even though he was two picks for chris chester) was andrew whittworth.

LT's are just so hard to find though.

Would you go for a Julio Jones type trade? Maybe not that high, but into the top 15.
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Im not sure if there's any suitor to trade with us @ #32.

Packers hit few gems @#32(notibly Randall Cobb) spot after their superbowl. I see us going that route instead. But that's my opinion.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1360042493' post='1346015']
Im not sure if there's any suitor to trade with us @ #32.

Packers hit few gems @#32(notibly Randall Cobb) spot after their superbowl. I see us going that route instead. But that's my opinion.
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We'll always find good players SOMEWHERE in the draft. But agreed. I think if we ever miss the playoffs we should just make a move up and get an LT. Whenever joe's been behind a good one that's when our offense really shines.
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Much improved pass blocking. Flacco looks more settled and calm in the pocket that any year before this one. Run blocking however is still bad. The line gets a push but they get all pinched in to the center and bunched up. Part of that is because defenses are set up to prevent Rice from getting around the corner. Ravens have yet to find a way to defeat that defense and create even minimal gaps running lanes.
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