Benard Pollard fined

[RavensXTC2]

[quote name='IH EART DA RAVENS' timestamp='1359161274' post='1330799']
Clean tackle - $15,250
Wearing socks too high - $10,500
Spiking a defensive player in the leg - $10,000

Patriots watching the Ravens in the Superbowl - Priceless
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10.5K for a uniform violation, 10K for a blatant kick. In all fairness to Mr. Goodell, I'm sure he would have fined Brady $20.5K had he known he was wearing a thong.

[saved72907]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1359157818' post='1330727']
It was actually lighter than I expected. Does that mean Ray also got fined?

What about Mayo? He had a blatant helmet-helmet on Pitta but wasn't flagged... he deserves a fine, too.
[/quote] Pitta was certainly a defenseless receiver when he got plowed in the head. Makes me sick.

[Grendelwulf21]

I kind of like us getting the short straw in these type of things, though it does piss me off and i yell at the TV, I think it makes them play harder, and the win SO much sweeter

[blitzking33]

Rediculous.. Everyone is always praising these college kids because they're becoming bigger, stronger, faster. And with this new evolution of players, of course the hits are going to get nastier. The way I was taught to play is "hit or be hit". Goodell is lame with all these new rules to protect the players. Yes, I agree with protecting them for their health, but come on man.. You're are ruining the good nature of football. Goodell is better of somwhere in Tennis.

[berad]

[quote name='saved72907' timestamp='1359165077' post='1330865']
Pitta was certainly a defenseless receiver when he got plowed in the head. Makes me sick.
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Everyone but the refs knew it was blatant

[tsizzle95]

such garbage... and the fact that the hit on pitta didnt even get a flag is even more ridiculous. if your gonna make a dumb call at least do it for both sides.

[Hjulmann]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1359161172' post='1330797']
A ton, and especially considering the amount of air-time they fill with him too $$$. Also, he's not getting DUIs or beating women, he's playing hard which is what people tune in to see. Pollard is actually just what the NFL wants: a good, charitable man that plays a hard-nosed style of football - that's what made the NFL popular.

Still, NONE of these fines/penalties would be happening if former players were not suing for their head trauma. That is never far from these topics.
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It really sucks though, cause he's one of the few BA players who keeps focused and does his thing, playing a clean game, just a very rough game. What has football come to, bills every time someone gets a booboo? How can you fine the man for playing the game he loves, and as the game should be played.

[funky141]

Pitta's hit, which was vicious was a good football hit, even the announcers on air said that. The LB lead with a his shoulder, rapped his arms and made a hard tackle. I was surprised no flag but after replay I understood why then.

[SteelerEmpire]

I thought Pollard's "head" was static, and then Welker lowered his head "into" Pollard's ??? It seems the Commish has a problem with Newton's Three Laws of Motion that he's trying to dis-credit........... BIG problem.

[Patnut]

Do you cats really think Robert kraft has a say in the outcome of the game . Having been to the last six ravens and pats games you guy come across as windbags . Take your fine and move on. Do you hear Brady crying about a petty fine. Get the chip off the shoulder. Have fun in New Orleans.

Ps. I can't stand those hideous camouflage pants.

[berad]

[quote name='SteelerEmpire' timestamp='1359175234' post='1330976']
I thought Pollard's "head" was static, and then Welker lowered his head "into" Pollard's ??? It seems the Commish has a problem with Newton's Three Laws of Motion that he's trying to dis-credit........... BIG problem.
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The onus is placed entirely onto the defensive player to avoid the helmet/neck and the referees 'judgement' of if they actually hit. Crappy? Yes. Pollard hit Welker high, by the rules, it was a legit flag. Then, a few minutes later, Dennis Pitta gets a worse shot to the helmet without even a blink.

That's my biggest issue with it. It should be a challenge-able call, we've all seen instances where this stuff has either been incorrectly administered - whether it be a no-call [i](Mayo v. Pitta)[/i] or a wrong call [i](Pollard's hit on a Jax player in 2011, for one)[/i].

[Tank 92]

[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1359174704' post='1330973']
Pitta's hit, which was vicious was a good football hit, even the announcers on air said that. The LB lead with a his shoulder, rapped his arms and made a hard tackle. I was surprised no flag but after replay I understood why then.
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It was a good football hit as you described. But Mayo's helmet went up under Dennis' face mask, hit him in the chin and rocked his head back. Incidental or not, hits like this were flagged all year in all games. The no call, just as many others in the ne game can be attributed to the "Kraft factor".

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1359210046' post='1331114']
It was a good football hit as you described. But Mayo's helmet went up under Dennis' face mask, hit him in the chin and rocked his head back. Incidental or not, hits like this were flagged all year in all games. The no call, just as many others in the ne game can be attributed to the "Kraft factor".
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Dude- don't waster your breath. Funky is always going to post against the Ravens. Biased non-fan taking up board space.

The hit on Pitta should have been flagged. Pollard is always going to get the flag due to the perception that him and Reed are head hunters. Ray's flag was BS. You could clearly see that WR lowering his head into Ray's as Ray was trying to go lower to avoid the helmet to helmet.

I just hope a BS flag doesn't effect the outcome of the Super Bowl

[Tank 92]

[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1359217245' post='1331188']


Dude- don't waster your breath. Funky is always going to post against the Ravens. Biased non-fan taking up board space.

The hit on Pitta should have been flagged. Pollard is always going to get the flag due to the perception that him and Reed are head hunters. Ray's flag was BS. You could clearly see that WR lowering his head into Ray's as Ray was trying to go lower to avoid the helmet to helmet.

I just hope a BS flag doesn't effect the outcome of the Super Bowl
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I know his MO. I've slammed him a few times and was just trying to be nice.

Amazing how a trip to Festivus Maximus makes you a kinder, gentler fan. :-)

[Ravens_fan]

BS fine IMO

[MrPlankton]

The funny thing is: watching that hit again shows, at least from my point of view, that Ridley was the one who lowered his helmet to hit Pollard and ended up knocking himself out. Guess he didn't do his homework when reviewing the Ravens players.

[funky141]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1359210046' post='1331114']
It was a good football hit as you described. But Mayo's helmet went up under Dennis' face mask, hit him in the chin and rocked his head back. Incidental or not, hits like this were flagged all year in all games. The no call, just as many others in the ne game can be attributed to the "Kraft factor".
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[Desert]

So let me get this straight. Pollard gets fined and penalized because Ridley gets hit,fumbles and is slow to get up[font="trebuchet ms, helvetica, sans-serif"][color="#282828"][i].[/i][/color][/font]

Pita gets blasted, helmet to helmet, in the red zone. But doesn't drop the ball and bounces right back to his feet.

NO flags or penalties on that play?

That's OK? I completely do not understand the thinking behind any of this...

Desert

[plesiosaur]

[quote name='Desert' timestamp='1359471382' post='1333973']
So let me get this straight. Pollard gets fined and penalized because Ridley gets hit,fumbles and is slow to get up[font=trebuchet ms, helvetica, sans-serif][color=#282828][i].[/i][/color][/font]

Pita gets blasted, helmet to helmet, in the red zone. But doesn't drop the ball and bounces right back to his feet.

NO flags or penalties on that play?

That's OK? I completely do not understand the thinking behind any of this...

Desert
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He was fined for a [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/25/nfl-fines-bernard-pollard-15250-for-hit-on-wes-welker/"]hit on Welker,[/url]

[FreckleNate]

I don't understand how the NFL can call a receiver defenseless when he caught the football. If you catch the football and you're in the air you should expect to get blown up that is a DB's job. The only time you should be able to call a receiver defenseless is if he didn't even come close to catching the football and he still get killed.

[GrimCoconut]

The NFL needs to refine its rules. If the WR is running and has his head tucked then it needs to be no penalty. I mean, otherwise we will have WRs just lowering their heads to get a penalty, and thus make the sport less safe in the process. They preach safety, yet don't realize that the coaches & players will manipulate this to gain a competitive advantage. What if someone gets hurt because they are lowering their head to draw a helmet-to-helmet?

The NFL needs rules to protect both sides--offense and defense. Then it also needs rules to protect the players from themselves. Mandate better helmets, since these new helmets supposedly reduce damage & injury (reduce, not eliminate).

Pollard is right. Goodell's killing the game.

[berad]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1359480560' post='1334109']
The NFL needs to refine its rules. If the WR is running and has his head tucked then it needs to be no penalty. I mean, otherwise we will have WRs just lowering their heads to get a penalty, and thus make the sport less safe in the process. They preach safety, yet don't realize that the coaches & players will manipulate this to gain a competitive advantage. What if someone gets hurt because they are lowering their head to draw a helmet-to-helmet?

The NFL needs rules to protect both sides--offense and defense. Then it also needs rules to protect the players from themselves. Mandate better helmets, since these new helmets supposedly reduce damage & injury (reduce, not eliminate).

Pollard is right. Goodell's killing the game.
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This is absolutely true! The NFL is caught between a rock and a hard place because on one hand, they are being hounded by former players suing about head trauma yet have current players [i](and fans)[/i] saying that the game is becoming too soft.

Additionally, the 'defenseless receiver' and 'head/neck area' rules are so vague, one-sided [i](in favor of offense)[/i], and must be called on the spot [i](without help of replay)[/i] that officials are bound to get them wrong.

The NFL would not be putting forth these new rules if they were not being sued for it. The concussion testing and better gear would come, over time, but the league is being forced to rapidly change and make up for years of 'ignoring' brain damage or else be forced to hand out millions. And, frankly, I think some of the former players just smell blood in the water and have jumped on - somewhat ruining it for players who actually have head injuries.

But, again, I won't necessarily blame Goodell. He is works for the owners and does most everything with their interests in mind. The owners don't want their league being sapped of money from former players.

[marylandmike12]

Wow I didn't know that was coming (sarcasm alert)

[jdynamite]

This fine totally blew my mind because I don't understand how he gets fined this much for a football play, and a football move, and Brady gets what like a $10K fine for almost kicking Ed Reed in the groin region and the potential of blowing out his knee. It's utterly ridiculous.

Not to mention Brady's fine is barely a snippet for him with his enormous contract and various off field endorsements. Pollard doesn't have a huge salary etc.

[plesiosaur]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1359552786' post='1335267']
Not to mention Brady's fine is barely a snippet for him with his enormous contract and various off field endorsements. Pollard doesn't have a huge salary etc.
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I heard his wife makes about $10,000/hr. Really.

[Guest RBates]

Someone start a poll on how many people would donate a dollar for Pollard to keep laying the wood on players.

I would!

[Moderator 2]

I would! But players are not allowed to accept it.

[ThePurpleWall]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1359159359' post='1330758']
Actually, Ridley put his head down and hit Pollard.
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that's what I was saying seems no one will even acknowledge it