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[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1359048985' post='1329035']
Was hoping he'd retire if we win so we'd never have to see him in another uniform =\
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I don't know if I was "hoping" he'd retire, but I definitely get that. I just really thought a guy could never go out better than winning a Super Bowl in his home town. I doubt any of us will be disappointed if he comes back a Raven, but it wouldn't break my heart if he changed as a result of finally getting his ring.
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It's going to suck seeing him in another uniform. There's a very little chance we'll be able to afford him.
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Did he say he'd be playing for us, as in they might have a deal agreed, or just he'd not retire? What was the exact wording?
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1359049366' post='1329050']
Did he say he'd be playing for us, as in they might have a deal agreed, or just he'd not retire? What was the exact wording?
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"It's not my last ride. I just bought a bike."
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[quote name='baltravensrj55' timestamp='1359048819' post='1329029']
He just said in his press conference he is going to play next year.
[/quote] I hope they lock him up with a 3 yr deal and he retires a Raven!!!!1 He richly deserves to retire a Raven!
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He might be playing, but we still have to re-sign him and there is no guarantee that we even reach a deal that both parties are comfortable with.
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[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1359049605' post='1329061']
I hope they lock him up with a 3 yr deal and he retires a Raven!!!!1 He richly deserves to retire a Raven!
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He's 34 with a bad injury history including nerve damage. It's time for him to hang up the pads. As amusing as it is to see people try to justify his poor play and unwillingness to tackle, we're much better off moving on from Reed. He doesn't have it anymore.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1359049286' post='1329045']
It's going to suck seeing him in another uniform. There's a very little chance we'll be able to afford him.
[/quote]Ed reed is one of the best players in the NFL also if Ravens win the superbowl they can probaly afford him again
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The fact that he acts as his own agent makes the whole situation more uneasy.

I would be more surprised if he is a Raven than a Patriot.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1359049465' post='1329056']
"It's not my last ride. I just bought a bike."
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Does this new bike make him faster, or increase his ability to complete tackles?
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[quote name='terpsnation' timestamp='1359050297' post='1329082']
Does this new bike make him faster, or increase his ability to complete tackles?
[/quote]most likely a used, rusted bike bruh
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1359050954' post='1329099']
I think he's returning to Baltimore.
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Agreed, we offered him a lot of money, and maybe he realizes the grass isn't greener. Hopefully he has had a heart to heart with Lew and was told to not "mess" with his legacy by playing for a different team.

Furthermore, it would be painful to lose both Lewis and Reed in the same off-season.
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[quote name='Jordan2540' timestamp='1359050044' post='1329074']
Ed reed is one of the best players in the NFL also if Ravens win the superbowl they can probaly afford him again
[/quote]lmao what a ridiculous first post.

Ed reed was one of the best players on the nfl. He's not even one of the best safety's in the league anymore I could name probably five I'd rather have next season. And no a Super Bowl win haS no bearing on whether we can afford him or not.

We either can, or more likely cant afford him regardless of what happens next Sunday.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1359051314' post='1329112']
lmao what a ridiculous first post.

Ed reed was one of the best players on the nfl. [b]He's not even one of the best safety's in the league anymore I could name probably five I'd rather have next season[/b]. And no a Super Bowl win haS no bearing on whether we can afford him or not.

We either can, or more likely cant afford him regardless of what happens next Sunday.
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You got to be kidding me.

Please go ahead and name those 5 safety that are that much better than hof Ed Reed
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It will be too painful to see him in another uniform. I don't care if he's not as good anymore, I want him on our team next year no matter what, which probably won't happen. :(
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1359052282' post='1329143']
It will be too painful to see him in another uniform. I don't care if he's not as good anymore, I want him on our team next year no matter what, which probably won't happen. :(
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Yep. Ain't going to lie. I've always have had an epic man crush on Reed. This probably has/will cloud my judgement and ability to be objective in regards to Reed.
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Now that I've soaked it in, I really think Ed Reed will be back in a Ravens uniform next year. I don't know how it's even possible, but I just have a feeling.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1359052476' post='1329152']
Yep. Ain't going to lie. I've always have had an epic man crush on Reed. This probably has/will cloud my judgement and ability to be objective in regards to Reed.
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If we win this thing I hope he reconsiders...I have no say in the matter, but if I was Ed, and had this marvelous career with only one team, I would go out in this fashion with the G.O.A.T. ILB.

It's hard to want that too because I don't want to see him gone!
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1359052003' post='1329133']


You got to be kidding me.

Please go ahead and name those 5 safety that are that much better than hof Ed Reed
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Dashon Goldson
Jairus Byrd
Earl Thomas
Eric weddle
Malcolm Jenkins

Guessing his list
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1359051314' post='1329112']
lmao what a ridiculous first post.

Ed reed was one of the best players on the nfl. He's not even one of the best safety's in the league anymore I could name probably five I'd rather have next season. And no a Super Bowl win haS no bearing on whether we can afford him or not.

We either can, or more likely cant afford him regardless of what happens next Sunday.
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Wow oh wow what an unpopular opinion you have there. Look I am all for going against the grain, and everyone being titled to their own opinion but can you possibly be joking here? Is there an iota of sarcasm that you could possibly redeem this post with?

For starters, there is only a HANDFUL of safeties even in the Hall of fame. Ed Reed has revolutionized the position. Before Ed was drafted by us safety wasn't considered to be a remote priority position in the draft. Since then we have seen safeties go in the top 5 because of the impact Reed has on transforming the position into a critical component of a top tier defense. The league is also trending into a passing league which has made the safety position even more critical as well.

Most pundits would still put Reed as he plays now into the top 5 if not at the top of the top 5.

Furthermore, its not like one of those other comparable safeties are Free Agents. So it's not like we can realisitically upgrade Reed with a Eric Berry or a Earl Thomas.

Lastly, is there a player on our roster or in the draft that is of Reed's caliber? I think not, and having Reed around a year or two more doesn't hurt our chances of grooming his replacement or scouting one out.

As an after-thought I am not big on ridiculing a first post. Is that really necessary? You had a first post too, and I am sure it was pure gold from the sound of it
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1359052871' post='1329168']

If we win this thing I hope he reconsiders...I have no say in the matter, but if I was Ed, and had this marvelous career with only one team, I would go out in this fashion with the G.O.A.T. ILB.

It's hard to want that too because I don't want to see him gone!
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I don't think Reed needs to retire. I think he can return. Everyone says he will leave us and go to another team. I even heard it from the team or whatever. I ask why is that guaranteed? Nobody knows for sure. Between Williams & Reed, I would take Reed every time. I don't think Reed will be that expensive. His play has dropped recently. He must see it. But then again, he has played better now as a traditional safety.

I think he's back. I really do.
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Can't afford what he thinks he should be paid. If he plays next year it won't be in a Ravens uniform
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[quote name='Dudeman' timestamp='1359053201' post='1329175']


Wow oh wow what an unpopular opinion you have there. Look I am all for going against the grain, and everyone being titled to their own opinion but can you possibly be joking here? Is there an iota of sarcasm that you could possibly redeem this post with?

For starters, there is only a HANDFUL of safeties even in the Hall of fame. Ed Reed has revolutionized the position. Before Ed was drafted by us safety wasn't considered to be a remote priority position in the draft. Since then we have seen safeties go in the top 5 because of the impact Reed has on transforming the position into a critical component of a top tier defense. The league is also trending into a passing league which has made the safety position even more critical as well.

Most pundits would still put Reed as he plays now into the top 5 if not at the top of the top 5.

Furthermore, its not like one of those other comparable safeties are Free Agents. So it's not like we can realisitically upgrade Reed with a Eric Berry or a Earl Thomas.

Lastly, is there a player on our roster or in the draft that is of Reed's caliber? I think not, and having Reed around a year or two more doesn't hurt our chances of grooming his replacement or scouting one out.
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Regarding your last point, Byrd is a free agent if I recall correctly. He's a very good safety. He might be better than Ed Reed right now in terms of comparables. The only area Reed is definitely superior is intelligence. Reed is truly in his own category in that regard.

I think he returns, though. Too many safeties in free agency. I think that with his play drop his value.
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[quote name='Dudeman' timestamp='1359053201' post='1329175']
Wow oh wow what an unpopular opinion you have there. Look I am all for going against the grain, and everyone being titled to their own opinion but can you possibly be joking here? Is there an iota of sarcasm that you could possibly redeem this post with?

For starters, there is only a HANDFUL of safeties even in the Hall of fame. Ed Reed has revolutionized the position. Before Ed was drafted by us safety wasn't considered to be a remote priority position in the draft. Since then we have seen safeties go in the top 5 because of the impact Reed has on transforming the position into a critical component of a top tier defense. The league is also trending into a passing league which has made the safety position even more critical as well.

Most pundits would still put Reed as he plays now into the top 5 if not at the top of the top 5.

Furthermore, its not like one of those other comparable safeties are Free Agents. So it's not like we can realisitically upgrade Reed with a Eric Berry or a Earl Thomas.

Lastly, is there a player on our roster or in the draft that is of Reed's caliber? I think not, and having Reed around a year or two more doesn't hurt our chances of grooming his replacement or scouting one out.
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Sorry but since Reed came into the league in 02 , only two Safeties have gone in the top 5 (both picked 5th overall) One being the now deceased Sean Taylor and the other being Eric Berry.
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[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1359053486' post='1329186']
Sorry but since Reed came into the league in 02 , only two Safeties have gone in the top 5 (both picked 5th overall) One being the now deceased Sean Taylor and the other being Eric Berry.
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Thanks for confirming my point.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1359053213' post='1329176']
I don't think Reed needs to retire. I think he can return. Everyone says he will leave us and go to another team. I even heard it from the team or whatever. I ask why is that guaranteed? Nobody knows for sure. Between Williams & Reed, I would take Reed every time. I don't think Reed will be that expensive. His play has dropped recently. He must see it. But then again, he has played better now as a traditional safety.

I think he's back. I really do.
[/quote]Denial! I have it too. He wants to get paid a ridiculous amount of money. He's felt we dogged him in his current contract. I know whatever he asks for he won't be worth on the playing scale. It could hurt other positions drastically.
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[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1359053486' post='1329186']
Sorry but since Reed came into the league in 02 , only two Safeties have gone in the top 5 (both picked 5th overall) One being the now deceased Sean Taylor and the other being Eric Berry.
[/quote]You proved his point bruh. If you want to argue it, you would have to show safties being drafted high BEFORE Ed Reed.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1359053678' post='1329195']
Denial! I have it too. He wants to get paid a ridiculous amount of money. He's felt we dogged him in his current contract. I know whatever he asks for he won't be worth on the playing scale. It could hurt other positions drastically.
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I'm not in denial, lol. There's a realistic chance he leaves. Someone will have to go for us to keep him. We won't be able to retain all of our free agents. I don't think he will be that expensive, though. The guaranteed money seems to be the most important for him. Also, it's a deep free agency pool of safeties. I don't see his market being that big due to his play the last few years.
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He's also said he's considering retirement and then not done it. He's all over the place sometimes.

I don't take much he says at face value

Just ball out in NO, Ed. That's all I care about right now.
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I think Ed will test FA, then give the Ravens a chance to match his highest offer. That's just the way I see it sadly.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1359054187' post='1329218']
I think Ed will test FA, then give the Ravens a chance to match his highest offer. That's just the way I see it sadly.
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It could be like Ray's situation a few years ago when no one was willing to pay him what we were so he came back. He tested FA and realized no one else valued him the way we do.
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Anything but a Pats or an AFCN (merely for competitive purposes - actually respect the teams within our div) jersey.
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[quote name='blackandpurplesacks' timestamp='1359054713' post='1329234']
It could be like Ray's situation a few years ago when no one was willing to pay him what we were so he came back. He tested FA and realized no one else valued him the way we do.
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I think it's different though. I think over half the teams would overpay for him, he would only play for a contendor though so it narrows down to a few teams. I wouldn't be AS upset if he went to an NFC team. I just don't see that happening as well.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1359055206' post='1329247']
I think it's different though. I think over half the teams would overpay for him, he would only play for a contendor though so it narrows down to a few teams. I wouldn't be AS upset if he went to an NFC team. I just don't see that happening as well.
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I'd feel comfortable betting on him heading up to New England. Belichick loves him and even a rapidly declining player who's constantly out of position, like Reed, is better than the back end of that secondary now.
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Especially if he gets his ring, he's going to want a juicy contract to finish out his career.

And what if we do resign him, and he starts to decline big time... how can you demote Ed Reed?

Some very interesting questions for the FO to toss around.
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I wonder what he'll say tomorrow.

Seriously though, if we win the big dance and Reed doesn't retire, I'll be a tad disappointed for lack of a better word. That's going to hurt the cap, and at this point he should just go out on top. He's been contemplating retirement for years. Why not just go out on top and let the team rebuild?
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I love how people are making negative comments about Reed because he wants play more football. Obviously it'll hurt if he's in another uniform but if his heart is still into playing football I respect that. Remember that he is playing through a new injury he got this season ontop of the old lingering ones. He might feel like when that injury heels (assuming it's something that can be heeled) he can be more effective. And he's shown in the postseason that when he doesn't gamble he is still the best at covering the back end. Who are we to complain what a man decides to do with [b]his[/b] career?
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[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1359057841' post='1329331']
I love how people are making negative comments about Reed because he wants play more football. Obviously it'll hurt if he's in another uniform but if his heart is still into playing football I respect that. Remember that he is playing through a new injury he got this season ontop of the old lingering ones. He might feel like [u][b]IF[/b][/u] that injury heels (assuming it's something that can be heeled) he can be more effective.
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Fixed.

Reed's been battling injuries every year for the past five years. A few of them have lingered into other seasons. His body is just dilapidated.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1359052003' post='1329133']


You got to be kidding me.

Please go ahead and name those 5 safety that are that much better than hof Ed Reed
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[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1359053061' post='1329174']


Dashon Goldson
Jairus Byrd
Earl Thomas
Eric weddle
Malcolm Jenkins

Guessing his list
[/quote]could even add Eric berry. They aren't much better, but right now today, they are better thats the point.

None, however, will ever be better than when ed reed was at it best, but you don't pay players based on 3 or 4 seasons ago. You pay the based on what you expect going forward.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1359057953' post='1329335']
Fixed.

Reed's been battling injuries every year for the past five years. A few of them have lingered into other seasons. His body is just dilapidated.
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Really lets nit pick more. I said assuming it can be healed lol

Bottom line it's not the fans decision. It's his career and if he think he still has more in the tank and the desire to play is still there then that's that. No one is more aware of his body than Ed Reed.
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[quote name='Dudeman' timestamp='1359053201' post='1329175']


Wow oh wow what an unpopular opinion you have there. Look I am all for going against the grain, and everyone being titled to their own opinion but can you possibly be joking here? Is there an iota of sarcasm that you could possibly redeem this post with?

For starters, there is only a HANDFUL of safeties even in the Hall of fame. Ed Reed has revolutionized the position. Before Ed was drafted by us safety wasn't considered to be a remote priority position in the draft. Since then we have seen safeties go in the top 5 because of the impact Reed has on transforming the position into a critical component of a top tier defense. The league is also trending into a passing league which has made the safety position even more critical as well.

Most pundits would still put Reed as he plays now into the top 5 if not at the top of the top 5.

Furthermore, its not like one of those other comparable safeties are Free Agents. So it's not like we can realisitically upgrade Reed with a Eric Berry or a Earl Thomas.

Lastly, is there a player on our roster or in the draft that is of Reed's caliber? I think not, and having Reed around a year or two more doesn't hurt our chances of grooming his replacement or scouting one out.

As an after-thought I am not big on ridiculing a first post. Is that really necessary? You had a first post too, and I am sure it was pure gold from the sound of it
[/quote]i didn't mention replacing him at all, I didn't mention anything about his previous years and what he's done. He will be a first ballot hall of faker no doubt. The best modern day safety no doubt. But all that is in the past. You don't pay players based on that.

That's what bad teams do, pay big money to free agents based on past years praying the stile gold. Reed is a shell of his former self, mainly due to age and injuries, it happens every player eventually. But he's complained about being under pay at 7 mil a year, disrespected etc etc. and he just won't be worth the kind of money he's seeking.

If he settles for a fair deal for his level of play I'm all for him retiring here. But Byrd and goldson are free agents and will command huge money. Byrd especially, and reed is going to look at that, and him being his own agent he's going to want a similar deal probably.

Can you honestly say he's worth it now? 5 years ago yes, no doubt I'd pay him what he wants, especially if ray was retiring, but his level of play isn't worth what his current contract is let alone a new one, where he will want a signing bonus and then could just retire after one year, leaving us in dead cap hell.

And edit, it's not an unpopular opinion, I've noticed you've really came back into posting lately but earlier in the year there was a lot of people posting similar things to what I'm saying, the board was pretty split on ed reed. That's quieted a bit now we ve been winning, and I def don't go out of my way to criticise him, heck I wouldn't have mentioned it at all of that's poster didnt speak with such a guarantee.

But the fact of the matter is, reed isn't the same anymore, and we can't pay him based on his former self. People need to realise that.

Way I can see happening those is him hitting free agency like ray Lewis then getting a real shock to the system that no one else in the league wants to pay him what he wants either, then he may come back and settle for a lot less. Exactly what happened ray, bet no one here thought the front office would do that, but should just crumble at his demands and pay a mid 30 year old based on his performance when he was 10 years younger.

Poor business that would be
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I see Reed opting to return hear after he gets offers that will not be as lucrative as he thinks. I could even see Reed re-signed before hitting the market.
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