You should chill watching ESPN. If that makes up who should get what kind of contract, then have mercy on me.
I'm not watching ESPN. I'm simply stating how individual accomplishments in this league are what leads to enormous contracts. Derp.
Aside from aforementioned quarterbacks, there are.. Freeney, Dumerville, Chris Long, CJ2k, Fitzgerald, Vincent Jackson, Revis, list goes on and on.. Oh please, tell me that those "franchise players" deserved their contracts based on playoff success. Oh, please. Source
First of all, you have to understand that owners are in it for the Lombardi. Yards, individual awards, etc are great and all and certainly provide leverage, IF you haven't managed to take your team to the big dance. I doubt they will have any meaning IF we win a SB and Flacco is a key contributor to that win.
Second, this isn't the Ravens first rodeo. We, as fans, do this every season. Oh no! We can't pay all these guys! We're going to suck! And, we don't suck. This is how the Ravens do business within the salary cap. They are well aware that we groom players and get the best we can from them during their rookie contracts. Then, we lose a good many to FA. That is just how it works out. And we are better for it in the long run. It is the reason we have the longest active streak going for making the post season.
Third, we have absolutely no say in this at all nor do we really know what is going on with it (right now, I'd say nothing is going on with it, we have a SB to play). I heard that Flacco IS willing to leave money on the table for other positions. He doesn't seem like a greedy guy so that rings true to me.
You're contradicting yourself.. "we groom players and get the best we can from them... We lose a good many to FA." That's what is happening with Flacco. We have indeed gotten the best out of him from his rookie contract, and he has certainly "outplayed" his contract. However, like you said, the Ravens "do business within the salary cap." We don't overpay our players.
The Ravens are one of the best managed teams in the league, including the patties, stoolers, Packers, etc. That is why we have been in the post-season in past five seasons and have had above average success since the beginning of the franchise. The organization will decide how much Flacco is worth, obviously, but I am here to argue that Flacco is not worth 20mil/year and we cannot afford that money. However, I do agree with the rest of you that we cannot afford to lose Flacco. We've gotten him to play the past five years with around 6mil/year. It is time to pay the man, but certainly not top dollar. And seeing as how this team operates, I'm sure they will do just that.
This team takes care of its own who have contributed above and beyond. Sizzle, Ed, Yanda, Webb, Ngata, Ray Rice, 52, etc. However, there are the Grubbs and Adalius Thomas of the world. Flacco definitely falls into the first column, but we've seen Sizzle (x2), Rice, C-Mac, Ngata tagged. I don't see anything wrong with tagging Flacco if he and his agent doesn't agree to a fair contract.
However, I completely agree to you that the most important task is to beat the 9ers, and that I do hope Flacco is willing to leave money on the table or take a huge signing bonus to lower his salary counted against the cap. However, as fans, we discuss this sort of thing to have fun
. I care for the Ravens future as much as you and every other fan on here, but I'm here NOT to bash Flacco or his amazing accomplishments, but simply to argue that the Ravens should not overpay him.
Edited by BallHawker, 23 January 2013 - 12:49 PM.