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Chykie Brown assessment

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What do you think of the 2nd-year CB from Texas? Do you see potential in the Chykster or do you think he is not cut out for the Ravens? He's had 29 tackles and 7 passes defended, but also some glaring penalties.
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He's a young guy who came into the league very raw. He has a lot of potential still. He wasn't expected to play much this year, but injuries changed that. He's played exceedingly well compared to what I expected.
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His biggest plus is he actually plays the ball. He's a serviceable corner with pretty decent technique. He's definitely a guy you keep on the roster, but no better than a nickel.
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1358833771' post='1325439']
Brown is fine.
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Care to elaborate?
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Actually I believe chykie has all the physical tools. Ozzie even said he believed he was a first round prospect( can't find quote). His only downside was technique. He has vastly improved and has made plays. He was solid up until yesterday when he could not tackle and had that communication error with Corey. Jimmy played great considering he has not touched the field on defense for some time when they alternated between him and chykie.

Cornerback is one of our strengths with Webb back and Cary gone. We will at the most draft a corner on day 3 because you can't have enough corners.
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Chykie has the chance to be a good CB in this league. Great physical tools, but in all honesty, I would take Jimmy over him any day of the week.
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His a hard worker, a student of the game. If people like Brown and few other up&comming 'next man up' didn't show up, we would be in a lot of trouble. What I see is that he is inexperienced. I think he has alot of potential, and given time he can excel.

A definate keeper imo. Can't wait to see what he has to offer in 9ers game in 2 weeks. Our secondary will be attacked, I hope everyone can communicate better and do their job.
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1358834648' post='1325451']
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than go around a troll a 14 year old? No seriously, do you? I can take the Flack that Poe or Panda, or Fly, Arnie, Nurps, and The Raven give me, but you, you aren't freakin jokin like they are........ This is the second damn time this has happened today alone.
This
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Don't try to turn this around on Ravenseconbeast! He rightfully pointed out the folly of your insubstantially succinct response. It has nothing to do with your age. Hope this doesn't turn into a neg war. Luckily, each person is only allotted 2 a day...
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I found the 7 passes-defended stat to be his most impressive. I realize that he still has a lot to learn, being so young. I hope he receives the discipline to avoid future costly penalties.
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358833190' post='1325434']
What do you think of the 2nd-year CB from Texas? Do you see potential in the Chykster or do you think he is not cut out for the Ravens? He's had 29 tackles and 7 passes defended, but also some glaring penalties.
[/quote] I like how he's coming along. You can never have too many cornerbacks and with Williams probably gone after this year, Webb recovering from an ACL that leaves him, Graham and Smith to compete for starting jobs next year. Not sure what you mean by a glaring penalty but these days I can't hold a P.I. call against a CB...the league likes to see the ball in the air.

I like him and we'll need him to improve his technique next year.
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358835170' post='1325455']


Don't try to turn this around on Ravenseconbeast! He rightfully pointed out the folly of your insubstantially succinct response. It has nothing to do with your age. Hope this doesn't turn into a neg war. Luckily, each person is only allotted 2 a day...
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He's been doing that to me all day regardless of the response Poe..... That was Sarcasim. I'm tired, and was in study mode, and don't want to answer questions. I gave you an elaborated response. Sorry if you were offended.[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358835331' post='1325458']
I found the 7 passes-defended stat to be his most impressive. I realize that he still has a lot to learn, being so young. I hope he receives the discipline to avoid future costly penalties.
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They pick on him a lot, but he makes them pay
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1358835790' post='1325467']
He's been doing that to me all day regardless of the response Poe..... That was Sarcasim. I'm tired, and was in study mode, and don't want to answer questions. I gave you an elaborated response. Sorry if you were offended.
They pick on him a lot, but he makes them pay
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I havent done anything. Except answer your question on a thread you created. Then just now, poked a little fun. I didn't try to harass you bud.

You can however stop having moderators force a warning on me for bogus reasons.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1358836076' post='1325471']
I havent done anything. Except answer your question on a thread you created. Then just now, poked a little fun. I didn't try to harass you bud.

You can however stop having moderators force a warning on me for bogus reasons.
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I'm behind you, econ! There was nothing inflammatory in your response.
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Agh, this studying thing getting to my head! [quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1358836076' post='1325471']


I havent done anything. Except answer your question on a thread you created. Then just now, poked a little fun. I didn't try to harass you bud.

You can however stop having moderators force a warning on me for bogus reasons.
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Between the head hurting from finals week, Poe posting animal picks, and the freakin celebration parties.....

I'm gonna need to get of this board....

Peace y'all. I need some sleep bad.
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Now that this[i] petite guerre [/i]is behind us, can we get back to evaluating Chykie's merits? I like Brown's run defense capabilities. 29 tackles is pretty impressive for a guy off the bench.
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Brown played well against his competition.

Of course, Brown is not an All-Pro cornerback, but there's not a lot in the league anyways (Revis, Bailey, Sherman, Tillman), but he has developed into a guy who is not terrible, but serviceable.

Brown will play out his contract and prove his worth as a serviceable cornerback. If he develops into a good starting cornerback, then that's the Front Office's decision to keep him. Remember, you can never have enough good cornerbacks becuse it's a passing league and you want to take away that 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and even 5th option from the quarterback.
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One last post (I promise) anything I have said the past hour on these boards may be very Irrelevant (what's new right?) anything I said, plz just Ignore.

On topic.

Chykie will be a starter. He will be part of our beast secondary in a few years. Why don't we move him or Jimmy to safety?
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To be honest, I haven't been watching/noticing him that much at all. My gameday rewind expired early, (pisses me off) and I've been trying to watch Ray the majority of the time since he's been back. Since I haven't heard from him that much I guess that means he's doing good. I basically just haven't focused on him as much as other players.

but...... Carys has been playing great. I know that.
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[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1358836724' post='1325482']
Brown played well against his competition.

Of course, Brown is not an All-Pro cornerback, but there's not a lot in the league anyways (Revis, [b]Webb[/b], Sherman, Tillman), but he has developed into a guy who is not terrible, but serviceable.

Brown will play out his contract and prove his worth as a serviceable cornerback. If he develops into a good starting cornerback, then that's the Front Office's decision to keep him. Remember, you can never have enough good cornerbacks becuse it's a passing league and you want to take away that 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and even 5th option from the quarterback.
[/quote]Fixed. :)
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1358836767' post='1325483']
Chykie will be a starter. He will be part of our beast secondary in a few years. Why don't we move him or Jimmy to safety?
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That's Irrelevant. :P
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358836633' post='1325479']
Now that this[i] petite guerre [/i]is behind us, can we get back to evaluating Chykie's merits? I like Brown's run defense capabilities. 29 tackles is pretty impressive for a guy off the bench.
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His run defense/tackling ability is prolly his biggest weakness. Yeah, 29 tackles is pretty impressive but I have seen him miss some tackles, especially last game where he missed a couple. He's pretty good in coverage and playing the ball, but once he perfects his technique he should get a lot better at coverage. I'm not saying he's a bad tackler but I wouldn't say that's his best asset. If he's the third CB again in two weeks, He has to make sure he wraps up, thats for sure
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358836173' post='1325472']


I'm behind you, econ! There was nothing inflammatory in your response.
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Thx for backing me up bud!
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Since every time I express my opinion on a young buck, some blowhard always throws my "Torrey Tantrums" at me, I've decided that I'm just gonna pat myself on the back every time I'm right, as a reminder of why I'm awesome sauce and you guys are thumb-sucking nancies.

Let's start with Chykie. After all, I did correctly predict that we were going to draft him and Jimmy Smith (way to go Fly!!). Just like I had us taking Bernard Pierce this year (way to go again Fly!!) and everyone groaned about how we dont need to waste a pick on a RB.

Chykie is Samari Rolle's clone. He just needs time and opportunities.
Unfortunately for him, we are insanely deep at CB, and we have guys who are ready NOW. So ultimately, Chykie will never be more than a nickel or dime back, barring some serious injurious. He will never be given the time he needs to truly develop. Such is life, but if a guy like him is #4 or #5 on the depth chart, that says a lot more for our FO than it does Chykie.
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I love me some Chykie. He can press and play off. He's quick and fluid. He plays the ball. He can break up passes. He can usually tackle. Looking forward to seeing him more.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1358841583' post='1325521']
Since every time I express my opinion on a young buck, some blowhard always throws my "Torrey Tantrums" at me, I've decided that I'm just gonna pat myself on the back every time I'm right, as a reminder of why I'm awesome sauce and you guys are thumb-sucking nancies.

Let's start with Chykie. After all, I did correctly predict that we were going to draft him and Jimmy Smith (way to go Fly!!). Just like I had us taking Bernard Pierce this year (way to go again Fly!!) and everyone groaned about how we dont need to waste a pick on a RB.

Chykie is Samari Rolle's clone. He just needs time and opportunities.
Unfortunately for him, we are insanely deep at CB, and we have guys who are ready NOW. So ultimately, Chykie will never be more than a nickel or dime back, barring some serious injurious. He will never be given the time he needs to truly develop. Such is life, but if a guy like him is #4 or #5 on the depth chart, that says a lot more for our FO than it does Chykie.
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Ego-tripping, I see! Muhammad Ali said it ain't bragging if you can back it up, though.

Anyway, I agree Chykie will never be utilized much here, barring another Webb injury. BAL has a lot of depth at the position.
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358843797' post='1325538']
Ego-tripping, I see! Muhammad Ali said it ain't bragging if you can back it up, though
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Did I mention that I wanted Dunlap, not Tons Of Fun Cody?

Guess who said this:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/153735-draft-day-disasters-2009s-top-5-draft-day-busts

Lol, okay, I'll stop now :D
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1358845770' post='1325546']
Did I mention that I wanted Dunlap, not Tons Of Fun Cody?

Guess who said this:
[url="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/153735-draft-day-disasters-2009s-top-5-draft-day-busts"]http://bleacherrepor...draft-day-busts[/url]

Lol, okay, I'll stop now :D
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At least Oher turned out OK!
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1358845946' post='1325547']
At least Oher turned out OK!
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Well, he has played pretty decently for a nice portion of the year....one awesome season, two atrocious years, one decent year. From a franchise LT drafted in the first, I'd expect a lot more; not quiiiiite a bust, just very poor value at the position we picked him. Looking back with 20 / 20 vision, this is a guy we should have taken in the early 3rd round
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1358846334' post='1325550']
Well, he has played pretty decently for a nice portion of the year....one awesome season, two atrocious years, one decent year. From a franchise LT drafted in the first, I'd expect a lot more; not quiiiiite a bust, just very poor value at the position we picked him. Looking back with 20 / 20 vision, this is a guy we should have taken in the early 3rd round
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Someone else would've snatched him before then.
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I like Chykie.. I think he'll be ahead of Jimmy come mid next season...

Hopefully he can pull a Webb type of progression well w/o the Injuries
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I like Chykie, he's a great STer like Cary was for us his first couple years. But actually made it to the field on d a lot sooner then Cary. He's very reminiscent of Cary in terms of skill set IMO. Similar size and skill set, but shows better ball skills.
Brown needs to spend a full offseason working on his technique. For a guy that was hurt a lot in college, he actually isn't that bad with his tech. But he will need to get past his mental errors (welker play) in order to improve.
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I think he lacks the quickness and agility for the position, he's more of a ball player than cover man. I'd say he has a future at FS and Asa Jackson is going to be the next Webb.
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any time you are basically a rookie playing against playoff teams with Qb's like Manning and Brady, and you are not constantly screaming his name out for screw ups... I'd say you are doing quite well indeed. A mid round raw pick, starting in his second year, and not making us long for the days of F---- W----- (that name I do not speak) is doing just fine in my book. Sure he is going to have his moments, but his physical play is why we ultimately beat Denver, with that tip ball he deflected.
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The Shocker seems to be a grinder. He reminds me of Josh Wilson. Scrappy, and not scared of contact. He'll do us good. Im impressed with our corner depth. Im still holding onto Jimmy getting healthy and having a big impact next year. I think he's in Harbs dog house. He's gonna have to work hard . Same deal as Ellerbe , work hard play hard.
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[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1358855795' post='1325587']
I think he lacks the quickness and agility for the position, he's more of a ball player than cover man. I'd say he has a future at FS and Asa Jackson is going to be the next Webb.
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I don't think Chykie has the size to play safety. I say Jimmy could certainly be a safety though.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1358846334' post='1325550']


Well, he has played pretty decently for a nice portion of the year....one awesome season, two atrocious years, one decent year. From a franchise LT drafted in the first, I'd expect a lot more; not quiiiiite a bust, just very poor value at the position we picked him. Looking back with 20 / 20 vision, this is a guy we should have taken in the early 3rd round
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Oher was probably a Early 2 IMO. I think he can shut down most guys on the right . I still say he's a better player then Andre Smith.. with less baggage. One thing you can say about Oher, he's tough and plays every game. I think KO could be an AllPro Gaurd and a VERY GOOD RT.
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1358861086' post='1325630']
I don't think Chykie has the size to play safety. I say Jimmy could certainly be a safety though.
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Well he's the same height and 10lb lighter than Eric Weddle so it wouldn't be a stretch. Jimmy has the ideal physical tools for safety but he has no idea how to locate the football.
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I think Chykie is turning out really well and it seems like every day I'm more and more impressed with our last two drafts. Both at the time seemed like we just got depth nothing more, but it looks like we got a bunch of studs up and down the board.
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Putting Smith at safety would be a mistake for his skill set. Yes, Smith has problems but those would be maximized at safety and not minimized. He's also a good CB, he just needs to work on his technique. Smith plays the ball but has stiff hips and doesn't flip them well. This would be exploited at FS. Smith also bites on the double move. Smith is good in run support, better than Chykie. He has missed tackles but then so have all the CBs on our team. What I like most about Smith is that he is better than any CB on this team after Webb in tackling RBs. He has the strength to do it. He needs to work on his technique.

But this is a Chykie Brown thread, so...I have noticed Chykie is good in zone, man, & press coverage. Unlike Smith who does not excel at zone. Brown is a good athlete, in some ways better than Smith, and plays the ball really well. Brown, I would say, reminds me of Cary Williams. He has all the physical tools but needs to work on perfecting his technique. If he puts it together, he could be very dangerous.

Of all the CBs on our team, I would put Graham at FS. He said in the beginning of the year he could play FS if asked. This was back when Ed Reed was teetering on the edge of retirement and stirring up his drama.
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Didn't Chykie originally look like a high rd draft player before he got injured in college. Could be wrong but I remember him being TX best cb but was injured.
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I like him, but I liked him in preseason. He is developing well and will likely become a very good to extremely good corner.
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Who is our DB coach because it seems like every player we have is becoming a play maker.
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Teryl Austin is our secondary coach. We brought him in when Pagano was promoted to DC last year. And yes, he is a great coach!!
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1358861231' post='1325632']
Oher was probably a Early 2 IMO. I think he can shut down most guys on the right . I still say he's a better player then Andre Smith.. with less baggage. One thing you can say about Oher, he's tough and plays every game. I think KO could be an AllPro Gaurd and a VERY GOOD RT.
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No question he's better than Andre Smith. And I also appreciate Oher's durability.

After the last few weeks, I'm starting to warm up to the guy
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[quote name='bMore Heathen' timestamp='1358867904' post='1325728']
Teryl Austin is our secondary coach. We brought him in when Pagano was promoted to DC last year. And yes, he is a great coach!!
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It's only his second year in the position, but he's already been one of the best acquisitions during the Harbaugh era.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1358868115' post='1325731']
It's only his second year in the position, but he's already been one of the best acquisitions during the Harbaugh era.
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I really like what he's done to build upon what Pagano started.
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Honestly he reminds me of a more physical/aggressive Cary Williams. Both Cary and Chykie are tall, lanky corners, but Chykie seems to put his size and long arms to good use much more often than Cary.

Im excited to see how Chykie continues to develop. At worst, he will probably be a good nickel or dime DB for us, which he already is. He's definitely exceeded my expectations in that regard. But he could also develop into a very good corner, maybe even a starter.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1358865239' post='1325678']
Putting Smith at safety would be a mistake for his skill set. Yes, Smith has problems but those would be maximized at safety and not minimized. He's also a good CB, he just needs to work on his technique. Smith plays the ball but has stiff hips and doesn't flip them well. This would be exploited at FS. Smith also bites on the double move. Smith is good in run support, better than Chykie. He has missed tackles but then so have all the CBs on our team. What I like most about Smith is that he is better than any CB on this team after Webb in tackling RBs. He has the strength to do it. He needs to work on his technique.

But this is a Chykie Brown thread, so...I have noticed Chykie is good in zone, man, & press coverage. Unlike Smith who does not excel at zone. Brown is a good athlete, in some ways better than Smith, and plays the ball really well. Brown, I would say, reminds me of Cary Williams. He has all the physical tools but needs to work on perfecting his technique. If he puts it together, he could be very dangerous.

Of all the CBs on our team, I would put Graham at FS. He said in the beginning of the year he could play FS if asked. This was back when Ed Reed was teetering on the edge of retirement and stirring up his drama.
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I actually like the idea of Graham at FS. Kid is a playmaker, and quickly becoming one of my favorite Ravens
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[quote name='msufan' timestamp='1358865607' post='1325687']
Didn't Chykie originally look like a high rd draft player before he got injured in college. Could be wrong but I remember him being TX best cb but was injured.
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The funny thing was Chykie was technically the 3rd CB on the Longhorns roster, behind Curtis Brown (Steelers) and Aaron Williams (Bills). Chykie ended up playing both CB and S, but because of the talent ahead of him, he didn't get a lot of attention. Luckily, he fell to us in the fifth round.
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