Senior Bowl thread
#1
Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:40 AM
Here are the rosters.
Rotoworld's Josh Norris also compiled his list of top-20 prospects (excluding QBs) with Ziggy Ansah at the top. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Ansah and Arthur Brown perform.

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#2
Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:05 AM
#3
Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:29 AM
D.J Fluker was listed at 6'6" and 335lbs, official Senior Bowl weigh in at 6'4" and 355lbs. Not good.
#7 Overall - Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
#38 Overall - Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
#94 Overall - Corey Lemonier, OLB, Auburn
#113 Overall - E.J. Manuel, QB, FSU
#144 Overall - Joseph Randle, RB, OSU
#178 Overall - Jordan Mills, OT/G, Louisiana Tech
#218 Overall - Greg Reid, CB, FSU
#224 Overall - Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
#4
Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:27 AM
Not gonna lie one of the best weeks in football. The battles in the trenches are always great to see which prospects really stand out.
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#5
Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:40 AM
By the looks of WalterFootball a lot of these players are coming in considerably under their listed measurements.
D.J Fluker was listed at 6'6" and 335lbs, official Senior Bowl weigh in at 6'4" and 355lbs. Not good.
NFL draft countdown said he carries his weight really well for a big man - so it may not be such a bad thing for him. They have great coverage on the senior bowl as well
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#6
Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:00 PM
NFL draft countdown said he carries his weight really well for a big man - so it may not be such a bad thing for him. They have great coverage on the senior bowl as well
His height is the more concerning part, but then again I never saw him having success outside of guard at the next level. He doesn't have the feet.
#7
Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:06 PM
His height is the more concerning part, but then again I never saw him having success outside of guard at the next level. He doesn't have the feet.
Agreed I think everyone questions if he will be able to play RT. I like him alot more inside but this week will show his worth. I heard he has a calf injury though and was limping so we may not even get to see if he has the feet to play it. There is no questioning that he has amazing arm length though - no one measured in even close to him
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#8
Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:51 PM
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#9
Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:05 PM
- Kyle Long looks to be a G to me, he is athletic enough but I dont think the technique is there (was moved around a ton on the OL)
- Datone Jones is a beast. He has great/heavy hands (reminds me of Upshaw), good feet and is quick
- Eric Fisher is amazing, his technique was amazing and it doesnt even look like he is trying. like clockwork
- Alex Okafor bats hands down really well before his dip, Fisher rode him easily though
- Sylvester Williams looks like he is a pure penetrator, however if he does not beat the OL right away he is done
- Kawann Short while he did well looks like he was tired and may have conditioning issues, heavy footed
- Braxton Cave looked like a tough player I really like him on the inside
- Margus Hunt was pretty thin looking, I was a not impressed with his strength (only saw once)
- Markus Wheaton looks quick and is a hands catcher
- Desmond Trufant is a physical guy and plays really fast, could be a penalty machine but is competitive
Just my quick thoughts - and a reminder this is based off of only a few one on ones of this mornings practice
Edited by Dubs, 21 January 2013 - 05:06 PM.
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#10
Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:02 PM
If Eric Fisher continues to perform like he did today I would fully support a trade up to get him to solidify the LT position for the next 10 yrs.Quick thoughts on the first day.
- Kyle Long looks to be a G to me, he is athletic enough but I dont think the technique is there (was moved around a ton on the OL)
- Datone Jones is a beast. He has great/heavy hands (reminds me of Upshaw), good feet and is quick
- Eric Fisher is amazing, his technique was amazing and it doesnt even look like he is trying. like clockwork
- Alex Okafor bats hands down really well before his dip, Fisher rode him easily though
- Sylvester Williams looks like he is a pure penetrator, however if he does not beat the OL right away he is done
- Kawann Short while he did well looks like he was tired and may have conditioning issues, heavy footed
- Braxton Cave looked like a tough player I really like him on the inside
- Margus Hunt was pretty thin looking, I was a not impressed with his strength (only saw once)
- Markus Wheaton looks quick and is a hands catcher
- Desmond Trufant is a physical guy and plays really fast, could be a penalty machine but is competitive
Just my quick thoughts - and a reminder this is based off of only a few one on ones of this mornings practice
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#11
Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:37 PM
wlater football described hint as an animal that looks dedicated in the weight room.Quick thoughts on the first day.
- Kyle Long looks to be a G to me, he is athletic enough but I dont think the technique is there (was moved around a ton on the OL)
- Datone Jones is a beast. He has great/heavy hands (reminds me of Upshaw), good feet and is quick
- Eric Fisher is amazing, his technique was amazing and it doesnt even look like he is trying. like clockwork
- Alex Okafor bats hands down really well before his dip, Fisher rode him easily though
- Sylvester Williams looks like he is a pure penetrator, however if he does not beat the OL right away he is done
- Kawann Short while he did well looks like he was tired and may have conditioning issues, heavy footed
- Braxton Cave looked like a tough player I really like him on the inside
- Margus Hunt was pretty thin looking, I was a not impressed with his strength (only saw once)
- Markus Wheaton looks quick and is a hands catcher
- Desmond Trufant is a physical guy and plays really fast, could be a penalty machine but is competitive
Just my quick thoughts - and a reminder this is based off of only a few one on ones of this mornings practice
I like cave to come in and push gino. I also like Hugh thorton, have him in my latest mock for depth on the inside. Both late round 5/6 guys. But provide good solid depth. WF said thorton is very well built as well.
Lane Johnson appears to be gathering momentum.
I'm beginng to favour him in the second round ATM, maybe something like hunt, johnson, Rambo in the first three rounds. But that would require so movement.
#12
Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:39 PM
If Eric Fisher continues to perform like he did today I would fully support a trade up to get him to solidify the LT position for the next 10 yrs.
He looked better than I expected, much better than the game type I saw. I'll be interested to see how the rest of the week and the combine plays out for him. Getting up to get him is nigh on impossible though. If he continues to perform like this he'll go top 15 in all likelihood, now that Matthews and Lewan aren't in the class.
#13
Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:42 PM
wlater football described hint as an animal that looks dedicated in the weight room.
I like cave to come in and push gino. I also like Hugh thorton, have him in my latest mock for depth on the inside. Both late round 5/6 guys. But provide good solid depth. WF said thorton is very well built as well.
Lane Johnson appears to be gathering momentum.
I'm beginng to favour him in the second round ATM, maybe something like hunt, johnson, Rambo in the first three rounds. But that would require so movement.
With the lack of a clear-cut No.3 Left Tackle prospect in the class there's no way a guy as athletic as Johnson falls to the end of the 2nd. If Fisher continues to perform well in the pre-draft process he'll likely be a top 10 lock, with Joeckel top 5 and Lane Johnson probably going in the mid-late first.
#7 Overall - Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
#38 Overall - Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
#94 Overall - Corey Lemonier, OLB, Auburn
#113 Overall - E.J. Manuel, QB, FSU
#144 Overall - Joseph Randle, RB, OSU
#178 Overall - Jordan Mills, OT/G, Louisiana Tech
#218 Overall - Greg Reid, CB, FSU
#224 Overall - Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
#14
Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:02 PM
wlater football described hint as an animal that looks dedicated in the weight room.
I like cave to come in and push gino. I also like Hugh thorton, have him in my latest mock for depth on the inside. Both late round 5/6 guys. But provide good solid depth. WF said thorton is very well built as well.
Lane Johnson appears to be gathering momentum.
I'm beginng to favour him in the second round ATM, maybe something like hunt, johnson, Rambo in the first three rounds. But that would require so movement.
Hunt, while I would agree he does look ripped he really did not look strong in the one on one I saw, he fell to the ground and looks like he may not be a good 34 End, but more of a 43 guy
Thornton did look like he had good size - again he was another guy who was beat a couple times back to back in one on ones, once at RT and once or twice at G. I hope he comes back strong tomorrow as he is one of my favs too.
Lane Johnson was not on TV today from what I saw but I really feel he is a first round talent
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#15
Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:44 AM
His height is the more concerning part, but then again I never saw him having success outside of guard at the next level. He doesn't have the feet.
He has EXTREMELY long arms. He is Andre Smith with a much better attitude and a MUCH better work ethic.
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#16
Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:10 AM

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#17
Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:40 AM
Remember Arm Length is not always the best measure because All-Pro Duane Brown and Joe Thomas had both under 33 inch arms. They make up for their short arms with technique and quick feet. Then there are players who have a strong base and long arms to combat rushers like Ryan Clady and Tyron Smith.
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#18
Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:51 AM
Oday Aboushi has 32 7/8 in arms, so that's kind of against him. We just have to see if he can make up for his short arms with quickness. His stock just dropped from the measurement section.
Eric Fisher got good arm length 34 in and height 6'7 2/8. He's looking like a legit LT, so he definitely out of our range.
Lane Johnson could be an under-the-radar. He has good measureables 6'6" 2/8, 302, 35 inch arms, but has to show if he has a good base and quick feet. He does need to add some weight.
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#19
Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:03 AM
http://walterfootbal...13practice2.php
I'm keeping an eye on him and he's the WR we draft. Talented WR will find a way on the field.
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#20
Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:16 AM
Baltimore - Illinois defensive end Michael Buchanan, Notre Dame center Braxton Cave, Oregon running back Kenjon Barner, San Jose State tight end Ryan Otten, San Jose State offensive lineman David Quessenberry, and Texas defensive end Alex Okafor. LSU defensive end Lavar Edwards
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