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[Purple_ICE 81]

I keep wanting to post my mock drafts and have so many ideas and thoughts but have been putting it off until the Ravens lose and the season is over...hahaha but we just keep winning!!!!

Anyway, Monti Te'o and Lance Armstrong walk into a bar...

On a serious note, the Te'o scandal has been highlighting sports news everywhere lately and is quite the shocker. Te'o seemed like a good guy with great character, only to find out that apparently he made up a fake girl friend who would die, to make him look like he was playing through big loss and looked to be the inspirational spotlight of the college football season.

I really dont know the specifics of everything and more and more details comeout on the daily, so I'll just leave it for sports center to uncover. But most college analysts project his draft stock to take a huge blow maybe even into the second round.

He looks like a great player and could definitely make an impact off the bat. Our team needs a new future ILB and depth for that matter as well. This is not like Te'o has bad work ethic or was in a drug scandal or anything like that, I feel like this is just where he was innocent but mostly stupid. He made a dumb immature mistake but it wont affect his play any, he has proven (accept for against 'Bama) that he is a good looking player with skills and instincts to be good at the pro level.

He is going to get interrogated and lectured forever at the combine and the scandal will come to a conclusion. Te'o will have to ensure this was a stupid act that will never be commited again and I think he can move on and mature from this. I think if he falls to 32 where we will be drafting... ... it would be a solid pick.

[Ed_Reed20]

Depends on who else is available. He'd be an ideal late-round pick but ILB seems relatively deep this year and there are bigger needs in the trenches.

[horus13corvineus]

not at the end of the 1st... he's not that good to be the SB champions selection for the 1st round... if we drop back to the 2nd, but we won't as we got plenty of picks this year and the organisation will want to reward the fans by selecting as champs in the first round

[PolishRifle]

Yes. He never was Patrick Willis and never deserved to be a Top10 pick, but he still is the best ILB available. He behaved gullible on the Internet and then was so embarrassed about it, that he lied. Sure. But, that has also nothing to do with football and as far as personality issues go, it is still innocent compared to the big three: Drug or weapon related Crime or Violence in general (especially against women).
Manti falling to us, when we are dead last in the draft, would make him a HUGE steal.

[Ravenslifer]

Depends on who is there - I like him, but the ILB position as a whole isn't as vital as it used to be. Just look at the 49ers - I'd say on a talent basis Patrick Willis is the best player they have on D, but it's Aldon Smith and Justin Smith who are doing the most damage to opposing teams. This is a passing league, and I think having multiple threats to get to the quarterback is vital. Considering Paul Kruger might leave via free agency I think if an impact pass rusher fell to us I'd go for him first. Same with an impact secondary player - FS is a need, cornerback is a need considering how often our guys seem to get hurt - the nature of the position, but still I'd rather not have a situation where we have no guys who can cover and then have to go and face a Peyton Manning again.

[BloodRaven]

It depends on who else drops down to us.

[gabefergy]

Tough question. I would probably lean towards yes, but it depends on his combine and who else is on the board.

[ravefan52]

Depends on a lot, but if hes telling the truth and I believe he is then I dont care about the whole incident. I think he would be a good pick

Edited by ravefan52, 21 January 2013 - 02:52 PM.

[SecretAgentMan]

Tough question. I would probably lean towards yes, but it depends on his combine and who else is on the board.

DT is our biggest need, and while Teo is a great player, and a great leader, so is Aurthur Brown, who is a better fit for our system.
We need a NT or Olinemen in the first

[dhstandard]

If he falls...in the 2nd round. ILB isn't the biggest need for us and the guy isn't the best MLB in the world. Plus, he will probably never become a leader and the intangibles were some of the biggest reasons he was supposed to be chosen so high. We have bigger needs.

I would take a solid NT.

[gabefergy]

DT is our biggest need, and while Teo is a great player, and a great leader, so is Aurthur Brown, who is a better fit for our system.
We need a NT or Olinemen in the first

I dont think we need a NT in the first round...maybe a versatile DT, but NT isnt a high value position. I also dont think OL is necessarily a first round priority either because I dont think there is much elite talent in this draft. We shouldn't reach for a need if the talent isn't worthy of that selection.

I think the best value where we will be picking is either safety, DT, LB (either inside or outside), or WR.

[GrimCoconut]

I dont think we need a NT in the first round...maybe a versatile DT, but NT isnt a high value position. I also dont think OL is necessarily a first round priority either because I dont think there is much elite talent in this draft. We shouldn't reach for a need if the talent isn't worthy of that selection.

I think the best value where we will be picking is either safety, DT, LB (either inside or outside), or WR.

I agree with this about 75%! I agree about safety, DE/DT, LB, but not so much WR. I'm not overly in love with the WR prospects in this draft. I also agree about NT not being a highly valued position anymore.

But to answer the question, I believe Te'o could be one of the best players left and yes, I would take him.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 21 January 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[Sizzlebshu]

I say no. Im thinking WR is out best bet at the end of the first. If Patterson isn't there we should either trade back or reach and grab Hopkins imho.

[GrimCoconut]

I say no. Im thinking WR is out best bet at the end of the first. If Patterson isn't there we should either trade back or reach and grab Hopkins imho.

Why should we reach? That makes no sense to me. Can you explain that?

[Purple_ICE 81]

I say no. Im thinking WR is out best bet at the end of the first. If Patterson isn't there we should either trade back or reach and grab Hopkins imho.

I would love to see us take a WR @32, but I just feel like this needs to be a defensive draft. With Ray Lewis retiring, Ed Reed might end up joining him if he gets his ring, and we have a lot of holes to fill and people we might lose in free agency. And with the emergence of Torrey and Quan this year, Jacoby Jones getting a little better and Tandon Doss is getting into the mix, if we take a receiver I would like to see us take someone like Da'rick Rodgers in the later rounds.

[Sizzlebshu]

Why should we reach? That makes no sense to me. Can you explain that?

Well like I said assuming we can't trade back, but Hopkins from what I have seen is a first round talent thats going to fall due to his physicals ala Russel Wilson. If he were 2 inches taller he could be top 15 pick and likely the best receiver in this draft class. So if we are unable to trade back I say we take him with our 31st/32nd pick. Its a reach in terms of rating not in terms of talent.

[T3hRaven]

I would consider it, depending on who's left.

[Sizzlebshu]

I would love to see us take a WR @32, but I just feel like this needs to be a defensive draft. With Ray Lewis retiring, Ed Reed might end up joining him if he gets his ring, and we have a lot of holes to fill and people we might lose in free agency. And with the emergence of Torrey and Quan this year, Jacoby Jones getting a little better and Tandon Doss is getting into the mix, if we take a receiver I would like to see us take someone like Da'rick Rodgers in the later rounds.

Just no. Every throw to him has been an incompletion/drop. I know he's had limited time etc... but his thing is having good hands and making catches in traffic and from what we have seen its not there.

I agree we have other priorities but given where we are picking, the position that will likely have the best talent left when we are picking is WR. We have seen Safeties get traded up for so it woulnt surprise me if Vaccaro and Elam were both gone. At ilb, theres no one worth taking that we cant get better value at in a later round. Trench talent is sparse as it is.

I feel wideout is a place where impact talent will drop to us. We need a number one. Torrey is great, but teams can take him away. Jacoby still needs development to become a solid #2 and is acutally owed a fair amount of money. Quan was deactivated in favor of Doss and you know how I feel about him so yea. We may have some depth there, but not a whole lotta quality (assuming we cut Boldin)

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 21 January 2013 - 07:00 PM.

[Yatagarasu]

Manti Te'o dropping to the 32nd pick is actually a blessing in disguise.

I believe Te'o is a player with a chip in his shoulder and will work even harder to prove the other 31 teams for passing on him. I noticed his passion when he forgoed his guaranteed 1st round for his Senior year to prove that he can be a better leader, a better player, and a better person. This hoax sounds very fishy, however nobody is perfect and everybody makes mistake. We live in the information world and it's not fair that people who don't know him personally judge him.

If Manti Teo drops to the 32nd spot, which I highly doubt unless something terrible happens, then I have no problem for the Ravens drafting him.

Remember, Ellerbe is hitting free agency and McClain is only a stop gap starter with a back up/ rotational depth status.

[ClintLB8]

My question is this.. does either Arthur Brown or Dannell Ellerbe fit the role of what Ray Lewis does at MIKE? Dannell strictly plays WILL does he not? He is fine in coverage and good in the run game but he isn't a fit at MIKE in my opinion. He is much more effective at WILL. I mean, I could be wrong.. but neither Brown nor Ellerbe fits the bill at MIKE. I think Te'o is perfect for it.. and I think he would be a steal at #31 or hopefully 32. If Ozzie wanted Donta last year at #29 or whatever we were.. then he will most certainly take Te'o if he falls to #31 or 32.