The Formula 1 Thread

[Raven07]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_zLNTtZtsE

[Raven07]

that moment when you realize you pulled into your PREVIOUS teams pit area instead of your NEW Team's

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

that moment when you realize you pulled into your PREVIOUS teams pit area instead of your NEW Team's

classic lol... this whole race had such a feeling... well onto next one now

[descent into the maelstrom]

As someone who likes Alonso even less than I like the Steelers, I have to admit that I enjoyed the first few laps. With any other team I would expect a grid penalty in the next race for not having pitted for a fix. Since it's Ferrari, that won't happen.

[binnypuss]

Hmmm, interesting point about Alonso, tho I'm not sure if there's anything in the regs to cover such an event??? Plenty of flack in the press directed towards Vettel right now. He has "apologised" to the team and to Webber, but call me cynical but I don't buy it.

He said he didnt understand the instructions, but it's been a red Bull policy to hold station after the last pit stops are done. I am going for the view that he knew darn well what he was doing and only after the race realised what a s***storm he had to deal with. Definately not impressed with Vettel today. Yeah, these are racing drivers who should race BUT team instructions are a fact of life in F1 these days and the drivers know that.

[Raven07]

Race Results

http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2013/894/

[H8R]

Hmmm, interesting point about Alonso, tho I'm not sure if there's anything in the regs to cover such an event??? Plenty of flack in the press directed towards Vettel right now. He has "apologised" to the team and to Webber, but call me cynical but I don't buy it.

He said he didnt understand the instructions, but it's been a red Bull policy to hold station after the last pit stops are done. I am going for the view that he knew darn well what he was doing and only after the race realised what a s***storm he had to deal with. Definately not impressed with Vettel today. Yeah, these are racing drivers who should race BUT team instructions are a fact of life in F1 these days and the drivers know that.

Vettel is THE MAN! Racing is an individual sport

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

Vettel is THE MAN! Racing is an individual sport

not quite... you can't do anything without a team behind you... he'll soon find out

[H8R]

not quite... you can't do anything without a team behind you... he'll soon find out

This "team nonsense" is watering down ALL of racing. Sure... some strategy can come into play but it still should be driver vs driver. Auto racing should be pure... "Team Racing" is just a money grab. I prefer REAL racing. Sure, allies can be formed.... but in the final laps, you have to be bold!

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

a very good read (the words of Martin Brundle is what I've been trying to say about team-play) http://eurosport.yahoo.com/news/motorsports-restoring-trust-red-bulls-big-challenge-121254531.html;_ylt=AnDKJxSCumFWnFbyw_BBKI1UPoh4;_ylu=X3oDMTRoZTd0bzRrBG1pdANUb3AgU3RvcmllcyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IEZQBHBrZwMzZmY5Y2NhYi0wYTA1LTM1NGYtOThiZS1lMTdjZGE2Y2M5NzgEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZExQQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgMxNzA2NDY0MC05NTQ3LTExZTItYTU4ZS1iZTU0MTNmMWU4NDU-;_ylg=X3oDMTFtdHRxMHNrBGludGwDZXVyb3BlBGxhbmcDZW4tZ2IEcHN0YWlkAwRwc3RjYXQDaG9tZQRwdANzZWN0aW9ucw--;_ylv=3

[descent into the maelstrom]

I think F1 racing - probably any racing, really, is a team sport for everyone involved - EXCEPT for the drivers. It's very interesting to me to have so many people working together to get great cars together for two individuals who are working for, really, just themselves. Yes, Vettel appears to be quite the jerk and has already proved he is willing to sacrifice crashing just to gain a position on his teammate. To be fair, Webber is probably quite a jerk as well. Webber just isn't the driver that Vettel is.

So kudos to Rosberg. That must have taken every ounce of self control he had to not pass Hamilton. That must suck to be a clear number 2 only 2 races into the season with a guy who just joined your team.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

team-mate rivalries and f1 http://eurosport.yah...-131357179.html

[binnypuss]

Christian Horner has announced that there will no longer be any team orders at Red Bull. At the same time Vettel has said that Webber didnt deserve the win anyway.

Now, I am not a fan of team orders as these guys are paid to race and win. However, I can understand any team manger whose car are running 1-2 wanting to see them both finish.

Sad thing is that it must be a pretty unpleasant atmosphere in the Red Bull pit now. I can easily understand Webber just looking after himself now. Last year for Webber at Red Bull I think.

[Raven07]

Christian Horner has announced that there will no longer be any team orders at Red Bull. At the same time Vettel has said that Webber didnt deserve the win anyway.

Now, I am not a fan of team orders as these guys are paid to race and win. However, I can understand any team manger whose car are running 1-2 wanting to see them both finish.

Sad thing is that it must be a pretty unpleasant atmosphere in the Red Bull pit now. I can easily understand Webber just looking after himself now. Last year for Webber at Red Bull I think.

controversy within the Pits.

[binnypuss]

Just a reminder, 20 years ago today. The greatest ever opening lap of a Grand Prix, of all time. Our esteemed friend Raven07 can probably dig out the footage, 'cos I can't

[Raven07]

Just a reminder, 20 years ago today. The greatest ever opening lap of a Grand Prix, of all time. Our esteemed friend Raven07 can probably dig out the footage, 'cos I can't

lol I can try.... what race?

race time is almost upon us!

[binnypuss]

Could be an interesting race tomorrow methinks. Kimi has excellent race pace and the Lotus is kind to it's tyres. I see him going longer than Alonso and Hamilton in the first stint. After that, hopefully Button will have messed up Vettel a bit and kept him back.

[Raven07]

#F1 BREAKING NEWS : Mark Webber to start from pits in China after Red Bull Racing team changes gearbox and other components

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

so it's a 4 drivers affair this year Vettel - Kimi - Alonso - Hamilton, really can't see any others

[descent into the maelstrom]

I'm happy to see Kimi back as a legitimate contender. I don't think Hamilton has the car, though. (I'm actually unconvinced Kimi has the car either.) Hamilton seems to be doing with the Mercedes what Alonzo was able to do with an inferior Ferrari the past few years.

[binnypuss]

Great race this one. Can't disagree with the view that it's down to four drivers this year!!

I feel sorry for Webber, how bad can it get, and he has a 3 place grid penalty for the next race. There are rumours arising here in the UK that he has signed a 5 year deal with Porsche to race sportscars next year

[descent into the maelstrom]

I think Red Bull should have tried to sign Hamilton and cut Webber. A Hamilton - Vettel team would have been fun to watch.

[Raven07]

Great race this one. Can't disagree with the view that it's down to four drivers this year!!

I feel sorry for Webber, how bad can it get, and he has a 3 place grid penalty for the next race. There are rumours arising here in the UK that he has signed a 5 year deal with Porsche to race sportscars next year

but seriously, I sense another down to the wire championship chase brewing, coupled with all the usual drama

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

the race that we didn't have last year http://eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/motorhead-uk/bahrain-grand-prix-ultimate-guide-080744674.html

[Raven07]

Ferrari puts rivals on red alert!

http://news.yahoo.com/ferrari-put-rivals-red-alert-bahrain-115848440--f1.html

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

so it's a 4 drivers affair this year Vettel - Kimi - Alonso - Hamilton, really can't see any others

 

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let's cut that thought by half - Vettel and Kimi

ps and this race is not finished yet, but the season ahead doesn't really look good for the ferrari or hamilton

[Raven07]

Season Results as they stand this season so far

 

http://www.formula1.com/results/team/

[Raven07]

http://en.espnf1.com/spain/motorsport/story/107308.html.......... preview from ESPN 1... Barcelona

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

and we're back to a 3 drivers race to the championship flag

[descent into the maelstrom]

Love the Hamilton "I can't drive any slower" statement.  Tough to be with a second rate team, but he still seems better off than he would have been with McLaren. 

 

I don't like Alonzo, but am happy for him and the Spaniards.  Tough times for them and always nice to see a country's top driver come thru in a home race.