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I Can't Dislike Lee Evans Anymore

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[url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8847776/nfl-playoffs-no-second-chance-lee-evans-billy-cundiff"]ESPN posted an article[/url] following up with Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff in the time that's passed since their AFC Championship gaffes.

After reading of Evans' humility and his accountability for the dropped TD, I can't harbor any more resentment towards him. The play still makes me cringe, but I don't think the sight of him would make me boil.

Kudos to Lee Evans for embracing his lowest career moment and aiming to teach his son the hard lesson he's learned.
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1358394851' post='1315097']
[url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8847776/nfl-playoffs-no-second-chance-lee-evans-billy-cundiff"]ESPN posted an article[/url] following up with Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff in the time that's passed since their AFC Championship gaffes.

After reading of Evans' humility and his accountability for the dropped TD, I can't harbor anymore resentment towards him. The play still makes me cringe, but I don't think the sight of him would make me boil.

Kudos to Lee Evans for learning from his lowest career moment and aiming to teach his son the hard lesson he's learned.
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I've never really disliked either of the two. Cundiff was very accountable and manned up. I respect that. Lee Evans, yeah, he dropped the ball. It happens, Boldin has done it, Housh has done it, it happens. That loss was always more than just two people.
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Franny, you disappoint me, bro.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Although I appreciate the article and the touchy-feely father-son angle -- it still brings up bad mojo.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]You're going to jinx us![/i][/font]
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Apparently David Reed wore a Lee Evans jersey to practice today. I don't know why, but thought I'd bring it up because I can.
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I don't blame Evans. Moore made a great play. That's it.

Now Ed Dickson dropping the ball that could have moved the chains? Yeah, I'm not happy about that especially when it's been an issue for him--holding on to the ball, that is. Regardless, the entire team lost the game. And Cam Cameron.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358395420' post='1315112']
Apparently David Reed wore a Lee Evans jersey to practice today. I don't know why, but thought I'd bring it up because I can.
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Where did you read/hear this?
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1358394851' post='1315097']
[url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8847776/nfl-playoffs-no-second-chance-lee-evans-billy-cundiff"]ESPN posted an article[/url] following up with Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff in the time that's passed since their AFC Championship gaffes.

After reading of Evans' humility and his accountability for the dropped TD, I can't harbor any more resentment towards him. The play still makes me cringe, but I don't think the sight of him would make me boil.

Kudos to Lee Evans for embracing his lowest career moment and aiming to teach his son the hard lesson he's learned.
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The past is the past. Looks like he has moved on and is cheering for Ravens in maryland(his a resident here). I hope our Ravens team can lift his curse by finally getting that #2 Lombardi. It would be a bittersweet victory for both Evans and Ravens organization.

Lets get it done! Resilient and tough...our Ravens got this.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1358396376' post='1315141']


Where did you read/hear this?
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One of the reporters had it on Twitter earlier today
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358396570' post='1315152']
One of the reporters had it on Twitter earlier today
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Well, I hope he is inactive.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358395420' post='1315112']
Apparently David Reed wore a Lee Evans jersey to practice today. I don't know why, but thought I'd bring it up because I can.
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That's actually pretty bizarre
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358396570' post='1315152']


One of the reporters had it on Twitter earlier today
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That is the weirdest and dumbest things I've heard. Sure hope its false.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1358397387' post='1315169']


That is the weirdest and dumbest things I've heard. Sure hope its false.
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I can't remember who it was. Whoever it was, said that Bernard Pollard was playing with a boomerang and a couple of other guys were doing unusual things. But he said David Reed wearing an Evans jersey was the most bizarre thing about practice.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358397513' post='1315172']
I can't remember who it was. Whoever it was, said that Bernard Pollard was playing with a boomerang and a couple of other guys were doing unusual things. But he said David Reed wearing an Evans jersey was the most bizarre thing about practice.
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It sounds like we've gone Hippie!
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David Reed in the Evans jersey mentioned here

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-bernard-pierce-brendon-ayanbadejo-absent-from-wednesdays-practice-20130116,0,7377378.story
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358397513' post='1315172']


I can't remember who it was. Whoever it was, said that Bernard Pollard was playing with a boomerang and a couple of other guys were doing unusual things. But he said David Reed wearing an Evans jersey was the most bizarre thing about practice.
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I went back to check on it just because it sounded so odd. It was Luke Jones of WNST. Pretty credible source.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358397609' post='1315176']
David Reed in the Evans jersey mentioned here

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-bernard-pierce-brendon-ayanbadejo-absent-from-wednesdays-practice-20130116,0,7377378.story
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Weird weird weird!
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You know, I always saw Lee Evans as being a nice man, off-the-field. I mean, after all, Evans had the strength to admit, to Mike Mularkey, that he didn't have "it", anymore, and it was the better for him and the Jaguars to part ways (during preseason, back in August). That, right that, earned my respect; reading this only made it grow larger.

Ultimately, none of us [i]truly [/i]blamed Lee Evans, despite what happened in last year's AFC Championship Game. For one, the dropped go-ahead TD (and, 99.9% likely, game-winning touchdown) was not the last play of the game. The Ravens still had [i]at least[/i] two more plays to get the lead or, at worst, tie.

It's really weird, though, looking back at the Lee Evans experience; it failed, but Evans was practically hurt for the entire regular season. Hey, at least Joe Flacco looked his way in the playoffs. Evans [i]could [/i]have become the hero, but never became the "zero", so-to-speak. It's all about instinct and you've got to hold onto the football; Sterling Moore was just at the right place, at the right time, to take advantage of a mis-opportunity.

But, still; Lee Evans, while still dropping a crucial pass, was no way near the level of disappointment that T.J. Houshmandzadeh was, mostly because Evans wasn't annoying, whining about not getting enough catches in a game. Err... it didn't help that the "all-great" T.J. was dropping passes, left-and-right, on a weekly basis (besides that game-winning touchdown in Pittsburgh)...
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I can't believe he is still in the area, I know Cundiff is, I feel bad for both of them--kinda like the Bills kicker in the 90's.Scott Norwood.
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And Sterling Moore followed the Evans play up with this beauty of defensive technique. We forget about it because it was bookmarked by two of the most heart wrenching plays in our franchise's history but it happened nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ena3T8RoWo
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Man, I want to forget last year lost totally, and reading this brought back my nightmare and disappointment.

If we win all, it'll be good for both the fans, organization, Evans, and Cundiff.

This year team is way different than last year time due to the fact so many tragedies and misfortunes happening to us: Art passed away, injuries to Suggs, Webb, Lewis, Ngata, and many more, and Lewis' retirement. Our morale going to the AFC championship game is as high as ever; we will prevail as a team.

Team need to focus and so do I.....gear up, beer up, and food up ready for Sunday night showdown!....
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[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1358395067' post='1315103']


I've never really disliked either of the two. Cundiff was very accountable and manned up. I respect that. Lee Evans, yeah, he dropped the ball. It happens, Boldin has done it, Housh has done it, it happens. That loss was always more than just two people.
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I don't really hate Evans either, but Housh is another story. If you're going to whine all year long about not getting the ball often enough, you need to catch it on fourth down.
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Evans and Cundiff should emulate Ochocinco and Owens and start a reality show together... :TVWatchingSmiley:
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I could never hate a Raven. I'm the kinda guy/fan that doesn't hate a player when they make a mistake, I actually feel bad for them right away haha. Like last week I felt bad for Peyton since he doesn't deserve all the bad talk about his playoff failures and I really felt bad for their safety that gave up the TD to Jacoby. That's just me though. ^_^
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I shared this because I thought it was a great story.

I didn't know a story of redemption and a life lesson would bring bad karma to a football game that we have no control over...? :eyes:
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As much the play infruiated me, I never held a grudge against Evans. I had always quietly admired him during his time in Buffalo. It's too bad his one, disappointing year as a Raven ended on such a sour note but that's life. I wish him success in the future.

Good article. Thanks for sharing.
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why are you guys nostalgic?

Talking about last year and trying to feel pity about it.

These players know that NFL is not a career and that they have to play their best when they are given their opportunity. I learned a lot from last year's loss too that as fans, NFL is an entertainment and that the optimism of winning a Super Bowl every year provided by this team's resiliency is great for a person's health. Optimism is a great key to live healthier lives.

Also don't believe in jinx. The team who shows up and plays better than the other regardless of penalty or controversy deserves to win and move on to the Super Bowl. We win and lose as a team, as a city, and as together.
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who cares about last year?

we can get redemption this sunday.

this would be the much better story: Ray Lewis back from a normally season ending injury leading his defense for the last time to the SB. How great would that be?

I think that we have it in our own hands. we are playing really good right now. have the all important guys back at the right time. offense starting to finally find its rhythm with the new OC.

They are all playing for Ray. I would love to see him on the biggest stage of the world one more time!!!

Let´s hit for the ultimate Harbaugh Bowl!!
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I never did hate Evans. I always felt that had we been the Patriots or Packers, that play would have been called a TD because he got both feet down. Or at the very least reviewed. Not to mention the play after that Moore mugged Pitta and there was no flag. We do need to try to take this game over early because there is no doubt in my mind the refs will make every attempt to give this game to the Patriots.

Nice story on Evans. I do wish him well.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358395420' post='1315112']
Apparently David Reed wore a Lee Evans jersey to practice today. I don't know why, but thought I'd bring it up because I can.
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I believe Boldin wore a Cundiff jersey a few times during the season
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I never hated Evans. I was surprised to hear he still lives in the area. It sucked that he couldn't keep ahold of the ball. As for cundiff, meh he should have made that field goal.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1358431705' post='1315406']

I believe Boldin wore a Cundiff jersey a few times during the season
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So this like laughing in the face of bad luck or something?
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[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1358439115' post='1315526']

So this like laughing in the face of bad luck or something?
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Something like that. Although either Ray, Sizzle, or Ed have worn Koch's uni before. I remember seeing one of them in it.
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I will admit, I was violently angry at him at first, but he's a really nice guy. At the end of the day there were a lot of plays that could've been made. Coulda woulda shoulda. We'll make up for it on Sunday.
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I was hoping for the Ravens to resign Evans. The fact of the matter is that he caught the ball, but it was stripped out of his hands in the endzone. It was Billy Cundiff alone who cost us that game, point blank. I hope Lee is able to play again soon.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358395420' post='1315112']
Apparently David Reed wore a Lee Evans jersey to practice today. I don't know why, but thought I'd bring it up because I can.
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Of all people........perfect.
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I think the jist of the article really is that Lee Evans has moved on and you should too. I really like how his heart was in the right place then and now, and I wish no ill will towards him.
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[quote name='gotekiraven' timestamp='1358443281' post='1315602']
I was hoping for the Ravens to resign Evans. The fact of the matter is that he caught the ball, but it was stripped out of his hands in the endzone. It was Billy Cundiff alone who cost us that game, point blank. I hope Lee is able to play again soon.
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Lee was a dud for us from Day 1 until the drop. I don't dislike him, but am glad he's no longer on the Team.

And sorry, point blank, the drop cost us the game not Billy's miss. If the catch was made, we're in the lead with little time for NE to score. Game over onto the SB. Cundiff makes the kick, we go to OT and who know's what would have happened.

And why the heck are we talking about this now anyway! Lol!
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[quote name='Dudeman' timestamp='1358446568' post='1315683']
I think the jist of the article really is that Lee Evans has moved on and you should too. I really like how his heart was in the right place then and now, and I wish no ill will towards him.
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I don't think any die hard Ravens fan will ever forget The Drop. I for one never felt any sort of dislike or disdain for Lee Evans the man, I actually felt bad for him. But I have to say that I never wanted to see him in a Ravens uniform again. That's just the way it is/was for me.
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Not gonna lie, i hated them both for a good month after the game. That feeling was one of the worst ever. But then i realized that life is bigger than football for these guys. Yes, both plays still make me cringe, but i don't hate them. I make Cundiff jokes on twitter and all, but its all in good fun. haha
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[quote name='SuggsBarber' timestamp='1358447709' post='1315707']
Felt bad for him,but never disliked him.IMO[b],it'd be nice to have him on the sideline at Sundays game.[/b]
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Ok...now you're pushing it.
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Although Evans should have caught the ball, you can give him a pass for having a good defensive play made.

Cundiff will never be forgiven. Cundiff is a bum.
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1358394851' post='1315097']
[url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8847776/nfl-playoffs-no-second-chance-lee-evans-billy-cundiff"]ESPN posted an article[/url] following up with Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff in the time that's passed since their AFC Championship gaffes.

After reading of Evans' humility and his accountability for the dropped TD, I can't harbor any more resentment towards him. The play still makes me cringe, but I don't think the sight of him would make me boil.

Kudos to Lee Evans for embracing his lowest career moment and aiming to teach his son the hard lesson he's learned.
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The Lee Evans incident was a bang-bang play where an opposing player contributed to him dropping the ball.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1358397387' post='1315169']
That is the weirdest and dumbest things I've heard. Sure hope its false.
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The fact that David Reed was wearing it is dumb. Honestly though, I wouldn't mind Jacoby wearing it. You need to embrace your mistakes and learn from them. You can't just hide and be afraid of it forever. Wearing his Jersey shows we have moved on. Shouldn't fear things like curses.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1358397513' post='1315172']
I can't remember who it was. Whoever it was, said that Bernard Pollard was playing with a boomerang and a couple of other guys were doing unusual things. But he said David Reed wearing an Evans jersey was the most bizarre thing about practice.
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Boomerang to maybe help catch? those things are weird as hell, if you can throw it and catch that, then you can catch a ball just fine, haha I'd like to think! .... maybe.. right?
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[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1358401218' post='1315234']
And Sterling Moore followed the Evans play up with this beauty of defensive technique. We forget about it because it was bookmarked by two of the most heart wrenching plays in our franchise's history but it happened nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ena3T8RoWo
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That play right there made me even madder than the lee Evans play because I'm screaming for a flag. I didn't care if it was illegal touching or pass interference either way first and goal with a TO.

With the initial post I've never disliked Lee Evans just disappointed because still to me it's more of Evans relaxing too much in a near ready to celebrate moment than the Moore making " a great play". I also felt like perhaps the feet were down before the ball came out. It was debated a lot. Also hearing Chris carter talk about how Evans should have just fell to the ground and made the catch similar to S.Holmes Superbowl catch to prevent the defender being able to make contact.

Besides that article shouldn't have made anyone feel differently. If anything the recordings after the game of Evans apologizing to Ray Lewis for letting him down etc and Ray speaking about it being a team game should have been all it took forgive and forget somewhat.
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Poor Evans and Billy. Faced with death threats which is highly offensive. It's just a football game in the end.
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