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[gabefergy]

1. Kansas City -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville -- Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
3. Oakland -- Damontre Moore, DE, Texas AM
4. Philadelphia -- Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
5. Detroit -- Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6. Cleveland -- Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
7. Arizona -- Geno Smith, QB, WVU
8. Buffalo -- Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
9. NYJ -- Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
10. Tennessee -- Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
11. San Diego -- Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
12. Dolphins -- Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
13. Tampa Bay -- Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St.
14. Carolina -- Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas
15. New Orleans -- Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
16. St. Louis -- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
17. Pittsburgh -- Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
18. Dallas -- Johnthan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
19. NYG -- Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
20. Chicago -- Alec Ogletee, LB, Georgia
21. Cincinatti -- Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
22. St. Louis -- Matt Elam, SS, Florida
23. Minnesota -- Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
24. Indianapolis -- Johnathan Jenkins, Georgia
25. Seattle -- Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
26. Green Bay -- Barrett Jones, OG, Bama
27. Houston -- Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
28. Denver -- Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
29. New England -- Tavon Austin, WR, WVU
30. Atlanta -- Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida
31. San Francisco -- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
32. Baltimore -- Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

Ravens Draft

First -- Cordarelle Patterson -- Patterson is probably my 2nd favorite WR in the draft. He possesses an elite combination of size and speed and is electric when he has the ball. 10 combined TDs in his first year at Tennesse as a junior college transfer, he quickly became an integral part of the offense not just as a pass catcher but also as a backfield threat. He scored TDs on a punt return, KO return, Rushes, and Receptions. While he does not have a large body of work catching only 48 passes, his skill jumps of the film. A very fluid player he is capable of running a complete route tree and possesses the ability to get in and out of breaks quickly. Patterson is a physical player and also nifty in the open field, frequently forcing missed tackles.

Second -- Margus Hunt, DE, SMU -- There is a chance Hunt is still on the board in the back end of the second round. An excellent athlete, Hunt also possesses elite size at 6'7, 280 lbs and could come in and play the 5-tech immediately. Hunt is a disruptive force and his massive wingspan, 82", gives him a great advantage over lineman.

Third -- Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers -- Greene is a bit undersized but he is a heck of a playmaker both in pass coverage and against the run. He possesses excellent speed and is a physical tackler.

Fourth -- DJ Swearinger, Safety, South Carolina -- Swearinger is an underrated player that has the versatility to play multiple DB positions. He shows leadership and passion on the field of play to go along with his playmaking ability.

Fourth (comp) -- Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin -- He protected Russell Wilson's blidside in 2011 and has experience starting on both sides. Good combination of size to go along with athleticism, Wagner could be a late round steal. He doesnt possess great quickness, but is solid in technique.

Fifth -- Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia -- Geathers is another player that seems to be flying under the radar. He hasnt been a fulltime starter but shows impressive movement skills for a man his size, 6'5, 355. Doesnt always play with a consistent pad level and can be knocked back at times, but the raw upside is too much to pass on.

Fifth (comp) -- Michael Williams, TE, Bama -- Williams should be able to come in and help out as a blocking TE immediately. Good size and decent ball skills also could mean Williams could develop into a decent receiver as well.

6th -- Meshak Williams, OLB, KSU -- Much less heralded than his running mate, Arthur Brown, Williams also had an impressive season for Kansas State. He finished the season with 9.5 sacks and double digit TFL. Average size and speed may limit his upside, but he flashes the ability to be at minimum a situational pass-rusher at the next level.

6th (comp) -- Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU -- I think Mathieu could go as early as the 3rd or he could go compeltely undrafted. He has rare playmaking skills both as a defender and kick returner, Mathieu is another guy with crazy upside, but character concerns and underwhelming coverage skills knock him.

7th -- BPA

Edited by gabefergy, 14 January 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[SecretAgentMan]

1. Kansas City -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville -- Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
3. Oakland -- Damontre Moore, DE, Texas AM
4. Philadelphia -- Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
5. Detroit -- Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6. Cleveland -- Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
7. Arizona -- Geno Smith, QB, WVU
8. Buffalo -- Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
9. NYJ -- Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
10. Tennessee -- Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
11. San Diego -- Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
12. Dolphins -- Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
13. Tampa Bay -- Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St.
14. Carolina -- Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas
15. New Orleans -- Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
16. St. Louis -- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
17. Pittsburgh -- Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
18. Dallas -- Johnthan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
19. NYG -- Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
20. Chicago -- Alec Ogletee, LB, Georgia
21. Cincinatti -- Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
22. St. Louis -- Matt Elam, SS, Florida
23. Minnesota -- Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
24. Indianapolis -- Johnathan Jenkins, Georgia
25. Seattle -- Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
26. Green Bay -- Barrett Jones, OG, Bama
27. Houston -- Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
28. Denver -- Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
29. New England -- Tavon Austin, WR, WVU
30. Atlanta -- Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida
31. San Francisco -- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
32. Baltimore -- Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

Ravens Draft

First -- Cordarelle Patterson -- Patterson is probably my 2nd favorite WR in the draft. He possesses an elite combination of size and speed and is electric when he has the ball. 10 combined TDs in his first year at Tennesse as a junior college transfer, he quickly became an integral part of the offense not just as a pass catcher but also as a backfield threat. He scored TDs on a punt return, KO return, Rushes, and Receptions. While he does not have a large body of work catching only 48 passes, his skill jumps of the film. A very fluid player he is capable of running a complete route tree and possesses the ability to get in and out of breaks quickly. Patterson is a physical player and also nifty in the open field, frequently forcing missed tackles.

Second -- Margus Hunt, DE, SMU -- There is a chance Hunt is still on the board in the back end of the second round. An excellent athlete, Hunt also possesses elite size at 6'7, 280 lbs and could come in and play the 5-tech immediately. Hunt is a disruptive force and his massive wingspan, 82", gives him a great advantage over lineman.

Third -- Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers -- Greene is a bit undersized but he is a heck of a playmaker both in pass coverage and against the run. He possesses excellent speed and is a physical tackler.

Fourth -- DJ Swearinger, Safety, South Carolina -- Swearinger is an underrated player that has the versatility to play multiple DB positions. He shows leadership and passion on the field of play to go along with his playmaking ability.

Fourth (comp) -- Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin -- He protected Russell Wilson's blidside in 2011 and has experience starting on both sides. Good combination of size to go along with athleticism, Wagner could be a late round steal. He doesnt possess great quickness, but is solid in technique.

Fifth -- Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia -- Geathers is another player that seems to be flying under the radar. He hasnt been a fulltime starter but shows impressive movement skills for a man his size, 6'5, 355. Doesnt always play with a consistent pad level and can be knocked back at times, but the raw upside is too much to pass on.

Fifth (comp) -- Michael Williams, TE, Bama -- Williams should be able to come in and help out as a blocking TE immediately. Good size and decent ball skills also could mean Williams could develop into a decent receiver as well.

6th -- Meshak Williams, OLB, KSU -- Much less heralded than his running mate, Arthur Brown, Williams also had an impressive season for Kansas State. He finished the season with 9.5 sacks and double digit TFL. Average size and speed may limit his upside, but he flashes the ability to be at minimum a situational pass-rusher at the next level.

6th (comp) -- Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU -- I think Mathieu could go as early as the 3rd or he could go compeltely undrafted. He has rare playmaking skills both as a defender and kick returner, Mathieu is another guy with crazy upside, but character concerns and underwhelming coverage skills knock him.

7th -- BPA

I actually love this draft, but I don't think DE is necesarily a need. I love hunt as a pick, but if it came down to
Hunt vs Brown
Or even Hunt vs Woods(I do not mind double dipping in this draft, I like Ellerbe)
Its those two over them

Do not get me wrong, this would be an amazing draft..... But Brown and or Woods would just be awesome to help Patterson.

[Sizzlebshu]

1. Kansas City -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville -- Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
3. Oakland -- Damontre Moore, DE, Texas AM
4. Philadelphia -- Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
5. Detroit -- Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6. Cleveland -- Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
7. Arizona -- Geno Smith, QB, WVU
8. Buffalo -- Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
9. NYJ -- Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
10. Tennessee -- Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
11. San Diego -- Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
12. Dolphins -- Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
13. Tampa Bay -- Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St.
14. Carolina -- Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas
15. New Orleans -- Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
16. St. Louis -- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
17. Pittsburgh -- Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
18. Dallas -- Johnthan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
19. NYG -- Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
20. Chicago -- Alec Ogletee, LB, Georgia
21. Cincinatti -- Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
22. St. Louis -- Matt Elam, SS, Florida
23. Minnesota -- Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
24. Indianapolis -- Johnathan Jenkins, Georgia
25. Seattle -- Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
26. Green Bay -- Barrett Jones, OG, Bama
27. Houston -- Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
28. Denver -- Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
29. New England -- Tavon Austin, WR, WVU
30. Atlanta -- Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida
31. San Francisco -- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
32. Baltimore -- Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

Ravens Draft

First -- Cordarelle Patterson -- Patterson is probably my 2nd favorite WR in the draft. He possesses an elite combination of size and speed and is electric when he has the ball. 10 combined TDs in his first year at Tennesse as a junior college transfer, he quickly became an integral part of the offense not just as a pass catcher but also as a backfield threat. He scored TDs on a punt return, KO return, Rushes, and Receptions. While he does not have a large body of work catching only 48 passes, his skill jumps of the film. A very fluid player he is capable of running a complete route tree and possesses the ability to get in and out of breaks quickly. Patterson is a physical player and also nifty in the open field, frequently forcing missed tackles.

Second -- Margus Hunt, DE, SMU -- There is a chance Hunt is still on the board in the back end of the second round. An excellent athlete, Hunt also possesses elite size at 6'7, 280 lbs and could come in and play the 5-tech immediately. Hunt is a disruptive force and his massive wingspan, 82", gives him a great advantage over lineman.

Third -- Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers -- Greene is a bit undersized but he is a heck of a playmaker both in pass coverage and against the run. He possesses excellent speed and is a physical tackler.

Fourth -- DJ Swearinger, Safety, South Carolina -- Swearinger is an underrated player that has the versatility to play multiple DB positions. He shows leadership and passion on the field of play to go along with his playmaking ability.

Fourth (comp) -- Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin -- He protected Russell Wilson's blidside in 2011 and has experience starting on both sides. Good combination of size to go along with athleticism, Wagner could be a late round steal. He doesnt possess great quickness, but is solid in technique.

Fifth -- Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia -- Geathers is another player that seems to be flying under the radar. He hasnt been a fulltime starter but shows impressive movement skills for a man his size, 6'5, 355. Doesnt always play with a consistent pad level and can be knocked back at times, but the raw upside is too much to pass on.

Fifth (comp) -- Michael Williams, TE, Bama -- Williams should be able to come in and help out as a blocking TE immediately. Good size and decent ball skills also could mean Williams could develop into a decent receiver as well.

6th -- Meshak Williams, OLB, KSU -- Much less heralded than his running mate, Arthur Brown, Williams also had an impressive season for Kansas State. He finished the season with 9.5 sacks and double digit TFL. Average size and speed may limit his upside, but he flashes the ability to be at minimum a situational pass-rusher at the next level.

6th (comp) -- Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU -- I think Mathieu could go as early as the 3rd or he could go compeltely undrafted. He has rare playmaking skills both as a defender and kick returner, Mathieu is another guy with crazy upside, but character concerns and underwhelming coverage skills knock him.

7th -- BPA

A few things

1. Tyran Matheiu isn't going undrafted and I doubt baltimore would draft him. We just dont do character concern players.

2. As for your first round Id switch Star and Damonte. I personally think its just a better fit considering Seymour is likely gone.

3. Id also move Jarvis up. The reason being I think he is more talented than Bjorn and on top of that if you expect him to go 5th overall, second isn't a reach even with his medical concerns.

4. I disagree with Jockel going first overall for reasons you already know. My feeling is they just have to take Geno here.

5. Id switch #10 and #11. Tennesee needs a lot of help, but their secondary more than anything.

6. As for the Ravens, I have Cordarelle mocked to the Vikings. The combo of him and Percy Harvin would be lethal and I think they will be desperate to get play makers to help open the field for Ponder and Peterson. Patterson's ability to be a wildcat QB is also a bonus. Would you trade up to steal him?

Your draft is great, but Mckinnie's reemergence proves how badly we need a LT and eventually we are going to have to pay for one either by losing or with draft picks. I suppose your hoping to resign Big Mac and pray that he doesnt accept a better offer and can play 1 more year until more tackles come out or we can develop someone we take later in the draft?

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 15 January 2013 - 12:29 AM.

[BloodRaven]

I've changed my opinion on Margus Hunt, he has too much raw ability and potential,

[Ed_Reed20]

I love Patterson and I've read a lot of positive things on Hunt, Greene, Swearinger and Geathers. Mathieu in the 7th would be gravy. Quality mock.

[Fries]

Not a fan of hunt but I love the geathers pick... that'd be a steal. Love the draft

[Johnwilson]

I love the draft which i think we will go WR first round either patterson or woods but WR first! BEACUSE with Q fading and aging we need to start finding that number one guy now rather than wait to see if a guy pans out thats too long. and i really like green hes a underrated player on that Rutgers D.

[GrimCoconut]

I like all of your picks. I'm not sure about Greene but I like him. My concerns over him are the same as Ogletree but I don't think he goes as high as Ogletree, so not a bad pick. Personally, I would rather have Gerald Hodges or Arthur Brown. I really want a nice DE, and Hunt is intriguing. He could be a bust. He's a high-risk pick, and those are sometimes good. I like him better than Gholston by far. I love Mathieu and I would take him to play FS because I think he can. He's also a good CB. I do agree that he doesn't seem to be the kind of kid we would draft.

Regarding Patterson, it's not my favorite pick but I like him. And at the spot where you projected other players I don't see any better pick than him so I'll go with that. Still, not my favorite pick.

[Sizzlebshu]

Patterson reminds me a lot of Randall Cobb except with a much higher ceiling. He went to Greenbay 64th overall the year they won the superbowl and has paid immense dividends for them. I could see Patterson doing the same, but I feel that we will need to trade up to get him. I think Hopkins is who we will end up taking and tbh Id love that pick because he could come in a contribute immediately.

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 15 January 2013 - 12:08 PM.

[gabefergy]

Patterson reminds me a lot of Randall Cobb except with a much higher ceiling. He went to Greenbay 64th overall the year they won the superbowl and has paid immense dividends for them. I could see Patterson doing the same, but I feel that we will need to trade up to get him. I think Hopkins is who we will end up taking and tbh Id love that pick because he could come in a contribute immediately.

I like Hopkins too. He's a very well rounded receiver, actually reminds me of a young Boldin with maybe a little more speed. He doesnt have the upside of Patterson, but might be a better contributor immediately.

[gabefergy]

I like all of your picks. I'm not sure about Greene but I like him. My concerns over him are the same as Ogletree but I don't think he goes as high as Ogletree, so not a bad pick. Personally, I would rather have Gerald Hodges or Arthur Brown. I really want a nice DE, and Hunt is intriguing. He could be a bust. He's a high-risk pick, and those are sometimes good. I like him better than Gholston by far. I love Mathieu and I would take him to play FS because I think he can. He's also a good CB. I do agree that he doesn't seem to be the kind of kid we would draft.

Regarding Patterson, it's not my favorite pick but I like him. And at the spot where you projected other players I don't see any better pick than him so I'll go with that. Still, not my favorite pick.

I went with a lot of upside guys in this draft. Probably the safest pick is Swearinger who is really growing on me. I like Hunt a lot. I know this comp will be made a lot but he reminds of JJ Watt. Obviously that is an incredibly high ceiling but I see potential there.

[Sizzlebshu]

I like Hopkins too. He's a very well rounded receiver, actually reminds me of a young Boldin with maybe a little more speed. He doesnt have the upside of Patterson, but might be a better contributor immediately.

The more I watch Hopkins, the more I fall in love with him as a prospect. I really think he is the real deal for a #1 receiver. If he can show me that he can win a physical battle ie that he can just outmuscle corners sometimes (because they will press him to disrupt his route running) I think he could potentially be a top 10 talent that we could steal at the end of the first. His skills are just so refined to such a high level.

The only thing I didn't see a lot of from him from the tapes I watched was double moves. Im sure he is capable, but if you guys have any examples, Id love to see how he executes them.

[gabefergy]

The more I watch Hopkins, the more I fall in love with him as a prospect. I really think he is the real deal for a #1 receiver. If he can show me that he can win a physical battle ie that he can just outmuscle corners sometimes (because they will press him to disrupt his route running) I think he could potentially be a top 10 talent that we could steal at the end of the first. His skills are just so refined to such a high level.

The only thing I didn't see a lot of from him from the tapes I watched was double moves. Im sure he is capable, but if you guys have any examples, Id love to see how he executes them.

I do remember seeing one double move executed to perfection. He really is a very skilled player already. My only concern is he doesnt possess elite top end speed and explosiveness. However, his advanced route running and ability to change direction on a dime makes up for some of that. I see Roddy White/Boldin when I watch him.

[blackandpurplesacks]

I see Roddy White/Boldin when I watch him.

I see the same thing, a lot like Boldin with a little more overall athleticism. He seems a little faster than Boldin, maybe not as physical. If he's there, he's my pick, I think. He is a guy you can force feed the ball to and keep the chains moving. I think next year with him and Torrey outside and Boldin working the slot, we can and should have a top 5-10 offense if we have the right guy calling plays (which I think Caldwell is that guy)

[indianstick]

I like this draft, the only problem I have with it is khaseem greene is going to be gone before the third round, let alone our third round pick. Right now I have him ahead of arthur brown. Gerald hodges would be a great pick in the third.

[gabefergy]

I like this draft, the only problem I have with it is khaseem greene is going to be gone before the third round, let alone our third round pick. Right now I have him ahead of arthur brown. Gerald hodges would be a great pick in the third.

I think there is definitely a chance Greene goes before the 3rd, but he has some drawbacks. I think his most likely landing spot would be the Rams because they really need a Will, but not in the 2nd round. I like Hodges as well as Kevin Riddick and Sean Porter. I would be happy with any of them in the 3rd and at least one of these LBs should be there.

[GrimCoconut]

I went with a lot of upside guys in this draft. Probably the safest pick is Swearinger who is really growing on me. I like Hunt a lot. I know this comp will be made a lot but he reminds of JJ Watt. Obviously that is an incredibly high ceiling but I see potential there.

Really? Hunt reminds you of Watt? I can see it from a potential standpoint. He certainly has the potential more than say Floyd. Richardson reminds me of Ngata to a small extent.

Swearinger has talent. I've seen him play live. I like Robert Lester better, personally. I think Lester has loads of potential and right now is underrated, at least around here.

[gabefergy]

Really? Hunt reminds you of Watt? I can see it from a potential standpoint. He certainly has the potential more than say Floyd. Richardson reminds me of Ngata to a small extent.

Swearinger has talent. I've seen him play live. I like Robert Lester better, personally. I think Lester has loads of potential and right now is underrated, at least around here.

The Hunt - Watt thing is more from a sheer athleticism/size angle...although Hunt has some impressive tape especially in big games over the past cpl years.

Lester profiles more as a SS IMO. He has had some coverage lapses this season which concern me. I like Swearinger more as a free safety.

[Sizzlebshu]

I see the same thing, a lot like Boldin with a little more overall athleticism. He seems a little faster than Boldin, maybe not as physical. If he's there, he's my pick, I think. He is a guy you can force feed the ball to and keep the chains moving. I think next year with him and Torrey outside and Boldin working the slot, we can and should have a top 5-10 offense if we have the right guy calling plays (which I think Caldwell is that guy)

I dont see either one. If I had to make a comparison I'd probably say Victor Cruz. Someone who would excel in the slot, has great route running, can force the ball to, and can make plays outside when needed.

I cant say he is like Boldin because the pure physicality just isn't there. Boldin made his living catching balls in traffic and outmuscling people. Hopkins is physical but not to that level where he can make his living catching in traffic on an nfl level (again pending senior bowl and combine)

I cant say he's like Roddy White either because he isn't a finesse player either. While he may not be overly physical, he isn't finesse either. He will attack the ball and has sure hands. He makes his qb better. White doesnt do these things.

I really think Hopkins is the guy we should take if Patterson isnt there. If Patterson is there, I will regret not taking Hopkins but Patterson will pay dividends for us later.

[gabefergy]

I dont see either one. If I had to make a comparison I'd probably say Victor Cruz. Someone who would excel in the slot, has great route running, can force the ball to, and can make plays outside when needed.

I cant say he is like Boldin because the pure physicality just isn't there. Boldin made his living catching balls in traffic and outmuscling people. Hopkins is physical but not to that level where he can make his living catching in traffic on an nfl level (again pending senior bowl and combine)

I cant say he's like Roddy White either because he isn't a finesse player either. While he may not be overly physical, he isn't finesse either. He will attack the ball and has sure hands. He makes his qb better. White doesnt do these things.

I really think Hopkins is the guy we should take if Patterson isnt there. If Patterson is there, I will regret not taking Hopkins but Patterson will pay dividends for us later.

Roddy isnt a finesse player. White does do those things.