Terrence Cody

[The Raven]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1358229306' post='1312621']
I think Cody losing weight, has had an adverse effect on his play similar to Ngata last year when he went from 340 to 320 ( didn't really get as much push, and nagging injuries ).

All year both Cody & Kemo have underperformed IMO. I have seen both of them driven back by O-lineman all year, neither one of them clog the middle, or shed blocks consistently well.

Kemo has been pathetic at times with how bad he gets washed out, then Cody may come in for 2 plays before he's gasping for air.

Cody should really get with the strength and conditioning coaches, he still lacks those massive powerful arms. He looks like a big guy that barely picks up a weight.
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It's not his arms he has to work on most; it's his core and lower body.

[flynismo]

Every time one of you smart-alecks get on me for Mike Adams having a rough rookie year, I'm going just simply say "moobs".
I wanted Carlos Dunlap. Instead we ended up with Kindle and Ton Of Fun Cody

[H8R]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1358235070' post='1312671']
Every time one of you smart-alecks get on me for Mike Adams having a rough rookie year, I'm going just simply say "moobs".
I wanted Carlos Dunlap. Instead we ended up with Kindle and Ton Of Fun Cody
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Hahahahahhaha! Didn't you wan Adams in the first though?
I still think there is hope for Cody. Basically, he needs to eat AND CRUSH the WEIGHT ROOM. He's at an age where he can get MUCH stronger. Lets hope he can do it. He's actually pretty agile.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1358170330' post='1311313']
I saw Ngata line up at NT quite a bunch, I wouldn't be shocked if Cody was released in off season or we use a high draft pick on a NT...or if we go to a 4-3 since Ray is retiring
[/quote]We'll stay in a 3-4 with McClain and Ellerbe playing so well. But I can definitely see us going DT in the draft. Oh how I miss the days of Gregg. That dude was the epitome of a player you want fighting in the trenches.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1358250538' post='1312745']
We'll stay in a 3-4 with McClain and Ellerbe playing so well. But I can definitely see us going DT in the draft. Oh how I miss the days of Gregg. That dude was the epitome of a player you want fighting in the trenches.
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Buddy L was under appreciated here much like JJ. I miss him too.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1358250538' post='1312745']
We'll stay in a 3-4 with McClain and Ellerbe playing so well. But I can definitely see us going DT in the draft. Oh how I miss the days of Gregg. That dude was the epitome of a player you want fighting in the trenches.
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This is why Ngata has been ineffective. He doesn't have a NT next to him who can get some of the pressure. He is trying to get guys who run through the middle when our NT gets blown up.

[kassaiscool]

For all the people that said he lost weight this offeseason are wrong. He lost all that weight in 2011, and in 2012 he claimed to put on some more muscle. I am more confused to how someone puts on muscle, and looks like he got weaker. I mean teams are just trampling him all the time, and most of the time it seems to be one guy. I am really not worried about his pass rush ability for DT that was drafted to stuff the run, but in reality he can't hold his own against one guy forget two.

[Blex64]

[quote name='krrock10' timestamp='1358169130' post='1311301']
Cody does nothing well. Can't eat space, cant make plays in the run game, can't touch the QB. I think he was rated the second worst d-lineman according to profootball focus.
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Cody is rated quite decently by PFF. Kemo is the problem. He had the second worst run stop % among DT's (Cody was 5th highest) when they put up an article about it earlier this season.

Do people not know that Cody is 62, a huge black man, and Kemo is 96, a huge islander? I really don't get the constant bashing. He's far and away the better NT on the team.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1358296319' post='1313616']


Cody is rated quite decently by PFF. Kemo is the problem. He had the second worst run stop % among DT's (Cody was 5th highest) when they put up an article about it earlier this season.

Do people not know that Cody is 62, a huge black man, and Kemo is 96, a huge islander? I really don't get the constant bashing. He's far and away the better NT on the team.
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I agree to an extent. I don't think Kemo was our first choice. I really believe McBean was the first choice due to his pass-rushing skills. I think the Ravens wanted to rotate between those two players (Cody & McBean) but the broken leg really messed up our plans. I hope/believe McBean will return next year.

I don't think Cody can be a 3-down NT like Wilfork. I think McBean was intended to be that 3rd down guy. I think Cody lacks the endurance to hold up and that's his biggest issue.

[hawkprey]

I'm still holding out hope for him. He hasn't been awful. Just not very useful in the passing game and okay in the run game. Maybe something about the change of defensive coordinators did it. I know a lot of our guys looked bad at the beginning of the year because they were used wrong or whatnot. Cody hasn't caught up to Ellerbe's and Kruger's explosions onto the scene. But there's plenty of room for improvement with him.

Also, the nike shirts make him look fat. So that's a factor as well.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1358297918' post='1313647']
I'm still holding out hope for him. He hasn't been awful. Just not very useful in the passing game and okay in the run game. Maybe something about the change of defensive coordinators did it. I know a lot of our guys looked bad at the beginning of the year because they were used wrong or whatnot. Cody hasn't caught up to Ellerbe's and Kruger's explosions onto the scene. But there's plenty of room for improvement with him.

Also, the nike shirts make him look fat. So that's a factor as well.
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The fact of the matter is Cody is going nowhere, even if we hate him (I don't think anyone actually hates him). I think people are just frustrated he is not further along than expected or hoped. I think Cody still has talent, he just needs to get on the field. I don't think he can be an every down NT. I think he can be a good 1st or 2nd down NT, though. He offers nothing in terms of pass rush, but if you're not asking him to do that then perhaps that's OK.

He'll get tendered and be here next year. I'll be surprised if he's not.

[Guest RBates]

Cody just looks bad out there. His body looks like he just takes those diet pills and doesn't work out. He really needs to improve this off-season. Right now I'm not impressed.

[Dubs]

In Cody's defence NT is one of the hardest positions for young players to adjust to in the NFL and usually NTs need more time to develop and usually get better with age - I cannot think of many 34 NT who have done brilliant early on (other than Ngata, Wilfork and maybe Phil Taylor if he was not injured), if there are any more please bring up. There are a ton of non producers though (ex. Gabe Watson, Dan Williams, Justin Harrell, etc.) I think he has done ok, not spectacular. He is purely a run stuffing guy and if he can begin taking on double teams more effectively he will have a huge role. I think we are a situational defense now and we will be rotating packages alot so I do think he fits the scheme rather nicely.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Dubs' timestamp='1358317295' post='1313917']
In Cody's defence NT is one of the hardest positions for young players to adjust to in the NFL and usually NTs need more time to develop and usually get better with age - I cannot think of many 34 NT who have done brilliant early on (other than Ngata, Wilfork and maybe Phil Taylor if he was not injured), if there are any more please bring up. There are a ton of non producers though (ex. Gabe Watson, Dan Williams, Justin Harrell, etc.) I think he has done ok, not spectacular. He is purely a run stuffing guy and if he can begin taking on double teams more effectively he will have a huge role. I think we are a situational defense now and we will be rotating packages alot so I do think he fits the scheme rather nicely.
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A fair and true point. One I haven't thought of.

[wayne]

Yea, I remember my cousin talking about how overrated Cody was and to be that big, how weak he was.

[jdynamite]

When I'm watching games Kemo always look far worse than Cody. For every one or two plays that Cody is out of position, can't shed block, or doesn't clog a lane, I guarantee Kemo has about 6+ plays or more of the same nature in the same game. I've been wondering since early weeks of the season if they couldn't get Kelly Gregg back, after KC had cut him at some point.

[ClintLB8]

Honestly, he has just been awful in all aspects. He showed promise when he was heavier and was a simple two down, run stuffing NT. Losing weight has cost Cody tremendously. The Ravens need to spend this entire offseason completely reshaping Cody's body and working on his technique if he has any chance. Otherwise, just cut him loose.

[Jitamon]

I was really excited when we drafted Mt. Cody. I was even more excited when he played well his first year. Now , like many others, I am going What the heck???
I think his ego got to big, he thinks he is better than he is playing. I see how cocky he acts in interviews and this has me thinking .. Maybe he needs a mentor?
Maybe he has peaked already. Or is it that he has not been taught the right techniques. Maybe he is not mentally ready for the NFL, and all that comes with it? Is it coaching or the player???
In the end, I believe we will stick with him till his contract runs out.

[good_n_purple]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1358325974' post='1313954']
When I'm watching games Kemo always look far worse than Cody. For every one or two plays that Cody is out of position, can't shed block, or doesn't clog a lane, I guarantee Kemo has about 6+ plays or more of the same nature in the same game. I've been wondering since early weeks of the season if they couldn't get Kelly Gregg back, after KC had cut him at some point.
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Its a shame, but Kelly was done. He was just a stop-gap until they drafted Dontari Poe. I sure would like to see them dig up another Buddy Lee though.

[ellicottraven]

Lack of penetration and strength has been a problem with the D-line all year! Ngata is playing like a ghost of himself (probably playing hurt) and Cody is just getting man handled. Kemeatu is old but still doing reasonably well. I think we need to sit Cody and play either Art Jones or DeAngelo Tyson every snap!

I can't imagine the reason for this except, lack of strength and conditioning!

[Yatagarasu]

Hmm, this upcoming class of NT is much better than last year (Dontari Poe).

However, most of them will be gone by the time we pick. Our hope is to add competition for Cody, because we did basically gave him the job last season. It's a shame that Cody had a Junior Slump.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1358354265' post='1314164']
Hmm, this upcoming class of NT is much better than last year (Dontari Poe).

However, most of them will be gone by the time we pick. Our hope is to add competition for Cody, because we did basically gave him the job last season. It's a shame that Cody had a Junior Slump.
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You think it's better? I think it's poor. Not very deep at all. Similar to the center class.

[omar586]

the D-line in general is getting pushed around a lot this year, cody have been a disappointment this year, Kemo actually made more plays than Cody.

[flynismo]

The moobs make him look fat, not the shirts! Lol

[RavenFanatic1327]

i think cody gets released in the offseason. we dont have the personel to switch to a 4-3 unless we just go crazy and draft linebackeras all through the draft

[Brandon22]

We Need a Stronger Nose Tackles In This Years Draft to replace Terrence Cody and Kemeatou

[Blex64]

[quote name='RavenFanatic1327' timestamp='1358365893' post='1314424']
i think cody gets released in the offseason. we dont have the personel to switch to a 4-3 unless we just go crazy and draft linebackeras all through the draft
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We're not releasing a player on their rookie contract. The idea is insane

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1358391334' post='1314981']
We're not releasing a player on their rookie contract. The idea is insane
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Thank you. It's like people are fans and don't know their own team.

Also, I've been reading mocks and I think that we keep McBean after his injury. For one he should come cheap. Another thing is if the Ravens didn't want him they would have had an injury settlement. Usually the Ravens IR players to bring them back next year. I believe Kemo is out and McBean is back.

[Radinho84]

we don´t cut guys before their respective rookie contracts expire.

he will get his chance again just like kruger did.

he needs to put on some quality mass on his body. to me he seems just like a very fat guy with no power. that body was good in college but those nfl linemen are that much stronger.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1358360235' post='1314284']
The moobs make him look fat, not the shirts! Lol
[/quote]LMAO!!!!