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#1 Purple_ICE 81

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:01 AM

Who do you think are the bst receivers in the draft, and who do you think the Ravens might consider taking?

Keenan Allen California. 6'3" 210lbs approx 4.45 40yd dash-Personally I think the best receiver in the draft is Keenan Allen from California solely based on versatility. He reminds me of a slower but taller Percy Harvin, Allen can take the ball out of the backfield, return kicks/punts and has that quick slot receiver type role. He is a great route runner, and a good catcher. Although he didnt produce much this year due to bad QB play and injuries h e will probably be taken top 20.

Justin Hunter Tennessee 6'4" 200lbs approx. 4.4 40yd dash- looks like a beast to me, another Aj Greene. Whenever you accompany a nearly 6 foot 5 frame with 4.3-4.4 speed you are always dealing with a potential beast. That classic height-speed ratio is amongst some of the best receivers in the league-Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, Aj Greene etc. He has superior leaping ability and produced well at tennesee following a torn ACL in 2011. Suprisingly his route running isnt that bad, but will get better over time he has a good skillset to work with. I think Hunter will have the "Stephen Hill effect" and tear up the combine even more so than Hill because he trains olympia style for fun ie. doing long jumps, high jumps, running hurdles etc... and wind up being a first or second round pick.

Robert Woods USC 6'1" 180lbs approx. 4.4 40yd dash- Great route runner, catcher, and has decent size and speed. Going to be overlooked this year due to his lack of production from injuries but still played through them and had some big games for USC. And in 2011 Woods put up 111 catches for 1300yds and 15 touchdowns. Production or no production imo he has one of the best skillsets in the draft and will put on a good show at the combine, could end up being taken in the 1st but looks more like a solid 2nd rounder to me.


Terrance Williams Baylor 6'2" 205lbs approx. 4.5 40yd dash- The most productive wideout in college football in 2012 posting 1800+yards and 12 touchdowns. He is a decent route runner but needs to get better at run after the catch. Maybe its just me but any time i saw him play he would always seem to "flop" on the field to avoid gettig hit or from being too tired which definitely cought my eye. I think he could be a decent reciever but will only get drafted high due to his production kind of like Blackmon last year. Dont like him as a 1st round pick although thats where he will likely end up.

Deandre Hopkins Clemson 6'1" projected 4.39 40yd dash- The only Bowl game I watched this year due to being way too busy was the chik-fil-a bowl which Hopkins just happened to dominate in. Against LSU he posted 13 catches 191yds 2tds. Aside from an impressive post season, Hopkins torched defenses all year and had a touchdown in everygame but 1 all year finishing with 1400yds and 18tds. Needs to work on things but should easily go in the second round.

Stedman Bailey WVU 5'10" 193lbs approx. 4.45 40yd dash- Not neccisarily a top prospect due to lack of height and not having all the best skills in the world. But production wise posting 1600yds and 25tds puts him in the limelight. This is who I want the ravens to pickup this year. He definitely has a lot of potential as a dominant slot receiver who could take over once Boldin leaves in the not too distant future. He runs pretty well but needs to work on the fundamentals a bit. I think we could grab him in the 3rd if we are lucky thats where Kiper thinks he will go anyways-between rds 2-4.

Other notbales-

Tavon Austin WVU 5'9 176lbs. 2012- 114rec 1289yds 12td

Quinton Patton Louisana Tech 6'2" 195lbs. 2012- 104rec 1392yds 13td

Da'rick Rodgers Tenn. Tech 6'3" 208lbs. 2012- 61rec 890yds 10td.

Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee 6'3" 200lbs. 2012- 46rec 778yds 5td

Cobi Hamilton Arkansas 6'3" 209lbs. 2012- 90rec 1335yds 5td.

Edited by Purple_ICE 81, 07 January 2013 - 01:15 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:07 AM

Allen has the chance to fall. If he does, Oz snatches him up.

I would take Woods if he were there in the second.

Austin is more like Harvin if anything.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:30 AM

Who do you think are the bst receivers in the draft, and who do you think the Ravens might consider taking?

Keenan Allen California. 6'3" 210lbs approx 4.45 40yd dash-Personally I think the best receiver in the draft is Keenan Allen from California solely based on versatility. He reminds me of a slower but taller Percy Harvin, Allen can take the ball out of the backfield, return kicks/punts and has that quick slot receiver type role. He is a great route runner, and a good catcher. Although he didnt produce much this year due to bad QB play and injuries h e will probably be taken top 20.

Justin Hunter Tennessee 6'4" 200lbs approx. 4.4 40yd dash- looks like a beast to me, another Aj Greene. Whenever you accompany a nearly 6 foot 5 frame with 4.3-4.4 speed you are always dealing with a potential beast. That classic height-speed ratio is amongst some of the best receivers in the league-Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, Aj Greene etc. He has superior leaping ability and produced well at tennesee following a torn ACL in 2011. Suprisingly his route running isnt that bad, but will get better over time he has a good skillset to work with. I think Hunter will have the "Stephen Hill effect" and tear up the combine even more so than Hill because he trains olympia style for fun ie. doing long jumps, high jumps, running hurdles etc... and wind up being a first or second round pick.

Robert Woods USC 6'1" 180lbs approx. 4.4 40yd dash- Great route runner, catcher, and has decent size and speed. Going to be overlooked this year due to his lack of production from injuries but still played through them and had some big games for USC. And in 2011 Woods put up 111 catches for 1300yds and 15 touchdowns. Production or no production imo he has one of the best skillsets in the draft and will put on a good show at the combine, could end up being taken in the 1st but looks more like a solid 2nd rounder to me.


Terrance Williams Baylor 6'2" 205lbs approx. 4.5 40yd dash- The most productive wideout in college football in 2012 posting 1800+yards and 12 touchdowns. He is a decent route runner but needs to get better at run after the catch. Maybe its just me but any time i saw him play he would always seem to "flop" on the field to avoid gettig hit or from being too tired which definitely cought my eye. I think he could be a decent reciever but will only get drafted high due to his production kind of like Blackmon last year. Dont like him as a 1st round pick although thats where he will likely end up.

Deandre Hopkins Clemson 6'1" projected 4.39 40yd dash- The only Bowl game I watched this year due to being way too busy was the chik-fil-a bowl which Hopkins just happened to dominate in. Against LSU he posted 13 catches 191yds 2tds. Aside from an impressive post season, Hopkins torched defenses all year and had a touchdown in everygame but 1 all year finishing with 1400yds and 18tds. Needs to work on things but should easily go in the second round.

Stedman Bailey WVU 5'10" 193lbs approx. 4.45 40yd dash- Not neccisarily a top prospect due to lack of height and not having all the best skills in the world. But production wise posting 1600yds and 25tds puts him in the limelight. This is who I want the ravens to pickup this year. He definitely has a lot of potential as a dominant slot receiver who could take over once Boldin leaves in the not too distant future. He runs pretty well but needs to work on the fundamentals a bit. I think we could grab him in the 3rd if we are lucky thats where Kiper thinks he will go anyways-between rds 2-4.

Other notbales-

Tavon Austin WVU 5'9 176lbs. 2012- 114rec 1289yds 12td

Quinton Patton Louisana Tech 6'2" 195lbs. 2012- 104rec 1392yds 13td

Da'rick Rodgers Tenn. Tech 6'3" 208lbs. 2012- 61rec 890yds 10td.

Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee 6'3" 200lbs. 2012- 46rec 778yds 5td

Cobi Hamilton Arkansas 6'3" 209lbs. 2012- 90rec 1335yds 5td.

My ranking for viable targets is
1. Terrance Williams
2. Cordarelle Patterson
3. Justin Hunter
4. Aaron Mellette
5. Quinton Patton
6. Deandre Hopkins
7. Tavon Austin
8. Robert Woods
9. Da'Rick Rodgers
10. Aaron Dobson
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:49 AM

My ranking for viable targets is
4. Aaron Mellette

He is projected to go end of the draft like 5th or 6th round, and you think Cordarelle Patterson may go before Hunter?
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:04 AM

He is projected to go end of the draft like 5th or 6th round, and you think Cordarelle Patterson may go before Hunter?

Mellette has been projected anywhere from the 2nd-6th heck I even saw him as a potential 1st somewhere. He reminds me of Brian Quick so I see him as a 3rd or 4th and yes but only because of Hunter's durability concerns and disappointing production I think they both have tons of potential and either could be a number 1 for a team just my thoughts take em however you like

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:06 AM

He is projected to go end of the draft like 5th or 6th round, and you think Cordarelle Patterson may go before Hunter?

And just to clear something up I don't think my ranking will be the order they are drafted in. I think out of them Mellette might be last or second to last.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

Team Hopkins.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:12 AM

That's a good point about Hunter. He's one of my top receivers in the draft, but he definitely has the potential to blow up the combine. It generally takes a full year to recover from an ACL though, so maybe he'll be slightly affected, but I doubt it.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

I'm beginning to really like Cordarelle Patterson. He might end up being the best WR out of this draft, just an electric player. That said we would probably have to take him in the first unless we trade back so I doubt he ends up a Raven, Quinton Patton is more likely as he might fall to the late 3rd depending on his combine.

My WR rankings as of now:

1) Keenan Allen
2) Cordarelle Patterson
3) Tavon Austin
4) Justin Hunter
5) Robert Woods
6) Terrance Williams
7) Deandre Hopkins
8) Quinton Patton
9) Stedman Bailey
10) Da'Rick Rogers

It's a pretty deep class at WR, but no one player really strikes me as being "elite"

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

I see keenan Allen Falling to us because he has a knee injury which teams are going to be scary to take a injuried player for the draft and i like Patterson and Robert Woods.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:53 AM

I think Ryan Swope would be a great slot receiver. Although he probably won't be listed any where near the top 10
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

Really, I'll be fine with any of the big 3 from Tennessee. Rogers, Hunter, and Patterson all should represent a good value and a smart risk, depending on where they are drafted.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

I want Cordarrelle Patterson.

A 6'3 WR with that kind of shiftiness and explosiveness is a rarity, a lot of people are saying he will be contending for first WR off the board once the combine is over though.

Really, I'll be fine with any of the big 3 from Tennessee. Rogers, Hunter, and Patterson all should represent a good value and a smart risk, depending on where they are drafted.


I agree, I would be happy with any of them.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

I honestly think we should go receiver in the first round. Its a bigger need for us than people think. Contrary to popular belief I am okay with Mckinnie stop gapping the left side until FA or the draft opens up a line to a LT. I think Oher just needs to go period but thats a story for another time. Outside of Warmack I dont like taking any guard in the first round and as much as I love Boldin 7 million is too much. I also look at the possible wideouts that could fall to us vs the possible nose tackles and its clear a more talented wide out prospect will fall to us in the back of the first than a more talented nose tackle prospect. Ilb we only need average production at to be good. An elite ilb isn't the difference between a top 3 defense and the 17th ranked defense. You could argue safety is another huge need, but we took one last year to develop and again I dont see any safeties that really wow me this year. As for pass rushers, very unlikely an elite one falls to us, while an elite wideout just may.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

I want Cordarrelle Patterson.

A 6'3 WR with that kind of shiftiness and explosiveness is a rarity, a lot of people are saying he will be contending for first WR off the board once the combine is over though.

I know Cordarelle is ranked as a potential early second round pick, but think about justin hunter. Hunter out-produced Patterson he is nearly 2 inches taller and faster. I lovve Justin Hunter, I had a feeling Stephen Hill would tear up the draft after being projected 3rd or 4th early on by Mel Kiper and McShay, and surprisingly he tore up the combine and got picked second rd by the jets and had 2 tds in his debut game. Stephen Hill was just about 6'5" and ran a 4.3, Justin Hunter is 6'4" and some change and will likely run a 4.4 at the slowest. He played a full season after tearing his ACL and racked up over 1000 yards and 9 tds. Your right whenever you have that height to speed ratio its very rare. Thats what I like about Hunter he is soo tall and athletic but he runs fast, has better route running than stephen hill did, and will turn out great. But I still have to look at tape on Cordarelle, just dont know enough about him to talk about him, like his size and speed but feel like he was overshadowed by Hunter, but like Im sure he will be taken no later than 2nd round.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

I think Ryan Swope would be a great slot receiver. Although he probably won't be listed any where near the top 10

I like swope too underrated guy!
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

I know Cordarelle is ranked as a potential early second round pick, but think about justin hunter. Hunter out-produced Patterson he is nearly 2 inches taller and faster. I lovve Justin Hunter, I had a feeling Stephen Hill would tear up the draft after being projected 3rd or 4th early on by Mel Kiper and McShay, and surprisingly he tore up the combine and got picked second rd by the jets and had 2 tds in his debut game. Stephen Hill was just about 6'5" and ran a 4.3, Justin Hunter is 6'4" and some change and will likely run a 4.4 at the slowest. He played a full season after tearing his ACL and racked up over 1000 yards and 9 tds. Your right whenever you have that height to speed ratio its very rare. Thats what I like about Hunter he is soo tall and athletic but he runs fast, has better route running than stephen hill did, and will turn out great. But I still have to look at tape on Cordarelle, just dont know enough about him to talk about him, like his size and speed but feel like he was overshadowed by Hunter, but like Im sure he will be taken no later than 2nd round.

Hunter has questionable hands the and that could hurt him in the draft
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:04 PM

I wouldnt be opposed to taking a WR in the first depending on who is available. Other positions to consider in the first would be OT, safety, DT, maybe ILB.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

Hopefully, Hopkins in the second.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:22 PM

Hunter has questionable hands the and that could hurt him in the draft

I think durability concerns have people even more worried than his hands.
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