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Texans and Ravens: Underdogs plus a few other thoughts from a Texans fan

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We are in remarkably similar situations. Both of us backed into the playoffs. Both of us were blown out by the team we are facing next week. Both of us will be huge underdogs with good reason. The media will basically call these warm up games for the "real" matchup of the NFL's poster boy QB's. Both of us will be disrespected by the media all week and ridiculed. Let's hope we can both get our revenge. I have personal reasons for rooting for ya'll. I want revenge and home field. But I also want you to take out the Denver Manning's.

My other thoughts. No offense but Ray Rice is not a good playoff back. He has not played well in any of his 3 playoff games in the past 2 years. Also you guys looked inspired on defense today and good luck.[/background][/size][/font][/color]
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[color=#222222][font=Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]We are in remarkably similar situations. Both of us backed into the playoffs. Both of us were blown out by the team we are facing next week. Both of us will be huge underdogs with good reason. The media will basically call these warm up games for the "real" matchup of the NFL's poster boy QB's. Both of us will be disrespected by the media all week and ridiculed. Let's hope we can both get our revenge. I have personal reasons for rooting for ya'll. I want revenge and home field. But I also want you to take out the Denver Manning's.

My other thoughts. No offense but Ray Rice is not a good playoff back. He has not played well in any of his 3 playoff games in the past 2 years. Also you guys looked inspired on defense today and good luck.[/background][/size][/font][/color]
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Welcome back Doc.

Well, our offense did wind up getting it together today, but they are going to have to be together when they take the field against the Broncos if we're to have a chance. Rice is a great back but you're right, his playoff performances have been lacking. On a bright note, his fumble game is now behind us. On a brighter note, Pierce has been an amazing surprise! It means we do not have to rely solely on Rice anymore. On defense, well, Lewis will have those guys fired up and we've gotten our key pieces back, which we were lacking the last time we faced Denver. Even with our delapidated defense, we held Peyton to the fewest yards of the season.

I've only seen you guys play a couple times in the last few weeks, but you did not really play inspired ball versus the Bengals, at least on the offensive side of the ball. Schaub is going to have to get going if you're to have a shot at the Patriots. We've seen that Brady can struggle in those playoff games as well though.

Good luck next week. I think we'll both need it. I have all idea the zebras will be against us both.
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Very true we both are major underdogs. I think teams aren't that afraid of Flacco in the playoffs and they are daring him to beat them, they understand that Rice is our primary weapon on offense and center their gameplans on stopping him. His fumbles are inexcusable.

We both have tough games but what happened in the regular season doesn't matter anymore. I'll be rooting for you guys as well b/c I would love to avenge both of our humiliating losses this season! :)
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I agree. But I'm used to the Ravens being the underdog when it comes to Brady or Manning. Actually when any team plays Brady or Manning, the media always considers that team the underdog. However, I think we and the Texans have a chance. Both teams made correctable mistakes in the first games.

Games are not played on paper as they say. If I remember the Giants won it all last year although on paper they had no running game and their defense was ranked in the bottom. However, the team showed up in the post season. I hope the ravens can do the same with the odds against them. Good luck to Houston as I hate the Pats, but would love to get revenge against them for last year.

Oh and Ray Rice needs to get it together. Despite what the media says Rice had not carried the team in the post season, in fact he has been disappointing for the most parts, including a fumble in almost every game. Flacco and the D have been doing most of the work. Hopefully he bounces back. If not Pierce is an security blanket.
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Good luck to you guys as well doc. I would love a Ravens @ Texans AFC Championship, anything to ruin the "poster boy" matchup as you put it because that is what the media wants to see. It will be very tough for both of our teams, but certainly doable.

Have to agree somewhat on Rice. I think he will come out even more inspired on Saturday because of the poor game today. Apart from the catch to set up the first TD, Pierce was the better back today.
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So much for the hot teams being the most dangerous... People don't understand. It's not "hot" teams that win, it's [i]good [/i]teams. Wins are indications of how good a team is but ending the season on a high note isn't what propels teams. Nobody thought our teams could just "flip a switch" and play better within one week, but isn't "flipping a switch" what makes teams appear "hot"? Isn't that first win of the win streak a flip of the switch?
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The media hating on us? What else is new?

But I dont care what those monkeys think, they are pandering tools. For example, all year long they were on Houston's jock strap; but Houston loses a couple games and suddenly they're back to their Brady / Manning lovefest

Good luck, doc!
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i hope to see a ravens texans matchup and shove all the media's manning/brady favoritism up their ahole. I have nothing but respect for Houston and their team. i would not feel as angry losing to them than to the cheating patsies. good luck to your texans. i'm rooting for ya.
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Don't take it personally but I want the Texans to lose. Your defense just flat out gives our offense problems.. granted this was when Cam was still our OC but I feel more comfortable playing against the Pats and some revenge would be nice too lol. I could live with our teams getting to the championship game though I respect your team a lot especially Arian.
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I hope we both make it. For one, I am sick and tired of seeing Brady in a Superbowl game. Sick of hearing about Manning too. The so called experts have all but said the AFC is between two teams. They don't even give either of our teams the respect to think they stand even a chance. We're a write off as far as they are concerned. I'd love to shut them up. Time for a new contender.
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[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1357529549' post='1296087']
Don't take it personally but I want the Texans to lose. Your defense just flat out gives our offense problems.. granted this was when Cam was still our OC but I feel more comfortable playing against the Pats and some revenge would be nice too lol. I could live with our teams getting to the championship game though I respect your team a lot especially Arian.
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No problem. Honestly I respect you guys but I'm only rooting for you because it helps the Texans. we match up better with you guys than the Broncos and we would get home field. If you were better than who you were playing I would root for the other team. Still good luck.
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Ask New England about Ray Rice being a "bad playoff back". He was getting some nice gains yesterday but just couldn't hold on to the ball. It happens.
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Ray Rice is great,and did you forget today already ?,Ray Rice was probley closer to Ray Lewis then any other team mate.

on pregame intro of Ray Lewis,His teammates fought for position, trying to get as close as they could. Those not suited up whipped out their cameras to record the historic event. Running back [url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/roster/ray-rice/9d941a20-0c76-412d-85fd-165a029d59e6/"][color="#0f72da"]Ray Rice[img]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/color][/url] was crying.

“I was just emotionally distraught, and it was a lot going on in my head today,” Rice said. “It was sort of like ‘Save the Last Dance.’”

Ray Rice is human,did you forget that already ? give him a break
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[quote name='ThePurpleWall' timestamp='1357564076' post='1296450']
Ray Rice is great,and did you forget today already ?,Ray Rice was probley closer to Ray Lewis then any other team mate.

on pregame intro of Ray Lewis,His teammates fought for position, trying to get as close as they could. Those not suited up whipped out their cameras to record the historic event. Running back [url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/roster/ray-rice/9d941a20-0c76-412d-85fd-165a029d59e6/"][color=#0f72da]Ray Rice[img]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/color][/url] was crying.

“I was just emotionally distraught, and it was a lot going on in my head today,” Rice said. “It was sort of like ‘Save the Last Dance.’”

Ray Rice is human,did you forget that already ? give him a break
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Ray Rice is an awesome RB who rarely fumbles. Except in the playoffs for some reason. It's easy to say the emotion got the better of him today. He still has fumbled in a playoff game every single year since 2009. I don't know what it is, but he does need to figure it out.
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[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1357571865' post='1296583']
Ray Rice is an awesome RB who rarely fumbles. Except in the playoffs for some reason. It's easy to say the emotion got the better of him today. He still has fumbled in a playoff game every single year since 2009. I don't know what it is, but he does need to figure it out.
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Been saying this for a while now, Rice plateaued over a yr ago. If he wants the Ball, let him catch it. B.Piece can run just as good if not better. He proves it when he runs the ball.
Rice is very dangerous with Check downs. I don't think anyone can do it better but when it comes to running, arrghhh im done with it. Yes he will get a break out run but more times than not , i don't feel like watching him trip over his own shoelace or lineman.
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[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1357580337' post='1296786']
Did we really 'back into' the playoffs though?
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I say yes. Started off 9-2 and finished 1-4. We hit a rough patch at the end but the competition around us kept losing which help us back into the playoffs.
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I have to admit, if the Ravens are not in that big game I would rather have the Texans than the Pats or the Broncos. And I would always prefer the AFC to win over the NFC. Unless it is the Steelers. I want everyone to beat them.


Of all our adversarys, I do have a lot of respect for the Texans. They are a good solid well built team.
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Everyone and I mean everyone I talk too is doubting the Ravens to stand a chance to denver. But I think we can do it.
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First off, as a ravens fan, I want the pats expecting we win. We are a very good matchup for them. And Houston does not have a franchise qb. Can he make the big throws. Flacco did.
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[quote name='jaege' timestamp='1357582690' post='1296840']
I have to admit, if the Ravens are not in that big game I would rather have the Texans than the Pats or the Broncos. And I would always prefer the AFC to win over the NFC. Unless it is the Steelers. I want everyone to beat them.


Of all our adversarys, I do have a lot of respect for the Texans. They are a good solid well built team.
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And they do give us nice presents. Like Leach, Jacoby and Pollard.
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[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1357527140' post='1295956']


[color=#222222][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]We are in remarkably similar situations. Both of us backed into the playoffs. Both of us were blown out by the team we are facing next week. Both of us will be huge underdogs with good reason. The media will basically call these warm up games for the "real" matchup of the NFL's poster boy QB's. Both of us will be disrespected by the media all week and ridiculed. Let's hope we can both get our revenge. I have personal reasons for rooting for ya'll. I want revenge and home field. But I also want you to take out the Denver Manning's.

My other thoughts. No offense but Ray Rice is not a good playoff back. He has not played well in any of his 3 playoff games in the past 2 years. Also you guys looked inspired on defense today and good luck.[/background][/size][/color]
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No. We're not in remarkably similar situations at all. We have been to the Super Bowl and won it. Your team hasn't. Our QB has won playoff games in the last 5 years. Yours won his first and last playoff game last Saturday. I don't want to play you simply because I want to beat Peyton Manning and the Brady Bunch on our way to the Super Bowl. The way I see it is your luck has run out the same way Andrew's luck ran out in B'more. Oh, that's right! We beat them. Your team lost to them when it counted --- another dissimilarity, Better luck next year, underdog! We are the BALLLLLLLLLLLLTEEEEEEEEEEEMOOOOOOOOOOOORE RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYVENS!

As for your evaluation of Ray Rice's performance in the playoffs, He outplayed your no-name RB in last year's playoff game.
Yes, our defense played inspired football on Sunday. So did our offense. BTW, luck is where preparation meets opportunity and life is a series of missed opportunities. We create our own luck and don't need any Houston Texan fans to wish us good luck. If you would rather play us in the AFC Championship because you beat us earlier in the year 43-13, then you better be careful what you wish for. We're motivated now. We'd rather not play you in the AFC Championship game because we want to play the best. Until your fans and your team learn that simple truth, the Texans will always be an also ran. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. That's why you can bet neither the Broncos or the Pats would rather play against you than us. WE are the best!
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Thank you for the topic and the thoughts! I agree that the Ravens/Texans are viewed as heavy under-dogs. I think the media has been shaping a Manning vs Brady championship game since the seeding has been sorted out. But I do love a strong under-dog, and I am tired of the likes of Brady/Manning.

If I could toast to your vision of Under-dogs ruling the day then I would! Good Luck Texans, either way the play-offs should be exciting!
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[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1357527140' post='1295956']


[color=#222222][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]We are in remarkably similar situations. Both of us backed into the playoffs. Both of us were blown out by the team we are facing next week. Both of us will be huge underdogs with good reason. The media will basically call these warm up games for the "real" matchup of the NFL's poster boy QB's. Both of us will be disrespected by the media all week and ridiculed. Let's hope we can both get our revenge. I have personal reasons for rooting for ya'll. I want revenge and home field. But I also want you to take out the Denver Manning's.

My other thoughts. No offense but Ray Rice is not a good playoff back. He has not played well in any of his 3 playoff games in the past 2 years. Also you guys looked inspired on defense today and good luck.[/background][/size][/color]
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That's why we have Bernard Pierce he is a monster. He will be a good backup for ray rice if he needs a rest.
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Tired of people calling Rice "not a good playoff back". Yeah he fumbled twice, but the one fumble IMO should've been ours, Yanda clearly recovered cause Freeney (i believe thats who fell on it first) never actually had possession. Yes, both fumbles shouldn't have happened, but Rice is only human.

And then not to mention, he had a big 47 yard play that led to a TD. And add in another 70 yards rushing. He's one of the most dangerous weapons in the league. And he always seems to make a big play when we need it. I know he hasn't been the best this year, but i still have confidence in him
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1357699396' post='1298978']
Tired of people calling Rice "not a good playoff back". Yeah he fumbled twice, but the one fumble IMO should've been ours, Yanda clearly recovered cause Freeney (i believe thats who fell on it first) never actually had possession. Yes, both fumbles shouldn't have happened, but Rice is only human.

And then not to mention, he had a big 47 yard play that led to a TD. And add in another 70 yards rushing. He's one of the most dangerous weapons in the league. And he always seems to make a big play when we need it. I know he hasn't been the best this year, but i still have confidence in him
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Pierce ran better than Rice did in that game. There really isn't any way around it. He had two fewer carries, but 30 more yards and a much better average. Rice is great catching balls and running outside because he's elusive, but most of the time when you're running between the tackles, there aren't huge holes to go through, and Rice goes down way too easily early on.
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[quote name='NaveSenrag' timestamp='1357699811' post='1298987']
Pierce ran better than Rice did in that game. There really isn't any way around it. He had two fewer carries, but 30 more yards and a much better average. Rice is great catching balls and running outside because he's elusive, but most of the time when you're running between the tackles, there aren't huge holes to go through, and Rice goes down way too easily early on.
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I wasn't comparing Pierce to Rice. I know Pierce ran better.
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[quote name='frozen joe flacco fan' timestamp='1357667735' post='1298267']
No. We're not in remarkably similar situations at all. We have been to the Super Bowl and won it. Your team hasn't. Our QB has won playoff games in the last 5 years. Yours won his first and last playoff game last Saturday. I don't want to play you simply because I want to beat Peyton Manning and the Brady Bunch on our way to the Super Bowl. The way I see it is your luck has run out the same way Andrew's luck ran out in B'more. Oh, that's right! We beat them. Your team lost to them when it counted --- another dissimilarity, Better luck next year, underdog! We are the BALLLLLLLLLLLLTEEEEEEEEEEEMOOOOOOOOOOOORE RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYVENS!

As for your evaluation of Ray Rice's performance in the playoffs, He outplayed your no-name RB in last year's playoff game.
Yes, our defense played inspired football on Sunday. So did our offense. BTW, luck is where preparation meets opportunity and life is a series of missed opportunities. We create our own luck and don't need any Houston Texan fans to wish us good luck. If you would rather play us in the AFC Championship because you beat us earlier in the year 43-13, then you better be careful what you wish for. We're motivated now. We'd rather not play you in the AFC Championship game because we want to play the best. Until your fans and your team learn that simple truth, the Texans will always be an also ran. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. That's why you can bet neither the Broncos or the Pats would rather play against you than us. WE are the best!
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Lol. Please ignore this.
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