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[ZIBBY28]

*Under construction

To preface this, I’m not completely sold on this draft. It's too "flashy" (especially in the later rounds) and quite frankly, going to end up unrealistic... not to mention, it’s waaay too early to tell where these prospects will fall, but I threw it together tonight to see what kind of feedback I’d get.

Retain all RFA & ERFA except:
Damien Berry and Anthony Allen

UFA that walk:
Billy Bajema, Sean Considine, Bryant McKinnie, Chris Johnson, Ryan McBean, Ma’ake Kemoeatu

*Dennis Dixon signs elsewhere

Retirees:
Ray Lewis, Matt Birk, Ed Reed

Re-sign:
Joe Flacco - somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-15 mil/yr long term
Dannell Ellerbe
Paul Kruger
Cary Williams (1 year after not getting the deal he wants elsewhere)
James Ihedigbo
Omar Brown

Signings:
Austin Collie - with the emergence of the Colts’ young receivers and Collie’s troubling injury history, I think he’s out the door. With an incentive-based contract, I think Collie is a great fit, especially with his ties to Caldwell. We finally have speed on the outside with Smith and Jones, plus have the opportunity to develop younger guys like Streeter. Depending on how everything shakes out, Collie could be a potential replacement for Boldin in the future and take snaps from Jones in the meantime.

Draft:
1. Trade down
2a. Eric Reid | S | LSU
2b. Oday Aboushi | OT | UVA
3a. Kevin Reddick | ILB | UNC
3b. Andrew Jackson | ILB | Western Kentucky
4. Daniel McCullers | NT | Tennessee
Comp: Tyrann Mathieu | CB | LSU
5. Kenjon Barner | RB | Oregon
6. Denard Robinson | Ath | Michigan
7. Kenny Tate | OLB/S | Maryland

UFDA: Montori Hughes | NT | Tennessee-Martin

Edits: Color

I know not everyone is high on Reid, but I think Vaccaro is gone by this pick and many have Elam projected before Reid, too... he could fall. Doubling up at ILB gives us much-needed depth and the potential for more talented players on the inside. Remember the Dickson/Pitta picks... Really like Aboushi, but is probably a guy that climbs up draft boards late after the Combine – Mathieu is a playmaker and could fill a role in Nickel/Dime packages. The Barner and Robinson picks are just looking for lightning in a bottle guys (this mock has Berry and Allen leaving, but I really like Rainey, too). Kenny Tate is a homer pick, but at worst, I think he’d make a serviceable special teams player, and you’re more than happy with that in the 7^th.

***I don't know how much I like McCullers, but at least he'd be a big-body we're looking for. It's tough at 6'8" to maintain leverage, but I guess 360 lbs. doesn't hurt. Watching a little of McCullers' and reading up on him and the Tennessee program got me interested in Montori Hughes... trying to track down some sort of tape on him after leaving Tennessee. From the "highlights" I've seen, he looks athletically gifted and has the body type to contribute.

That’s all for now… feel free to tear me up and crush my hopes and dreams of replacing Oz one day.

Edited by ZIBBY28, 25 January 2013 - 09:30 PM.

[Miami Hurricane]

To preface this, I’m not completely sold on this draft. It's too "flashy" (especially in the later rounds) and quite frankly, going to end up unrealistic... not to mention, it’s waaay too early to tell where these prospects will fall, but I threw it together tonight to see what kind of feedback I’d get.

Retain all RFA & ERFA except:
Damien Berry and Anthony Allen

UFA that walk:
Billy Bajema, Sean Considine, Bryant McKinnie, Chris Johnson, Ryan McBean

*Dennis Dixon signs elsewhere (…with Chip Kelly’s team if he leaves Oregon)

Retirees:
Ray Lewis, Matt Birk, Ed Reed

Re-sign:
Joe Flacco - somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-15 mil/yr long term
Ma’ake Kemoeatu
Dannell Ellerbe
Paul Kruger
Cary Williams (1 year after not getting the deal he wants elsewhere)
James Ihedigbo
Omar Brown

Signings:
Austin Collie - with the emergence of the Colts’ young receivers and Collie’s troubling injury history, I think he’s out the door. With an incentive-based contract, I think Collie is a great fit, especially with his ties to Caldwell. We finally have speed on the outside with Smith and Jones, plus have the opportunity to develop younger guys like Streeter. Depending on how everything shakes out, Collie could be a potential replacement for Boldin in the future and take snaps from Jones in the meantime.

Draft:
1. Trade down
2a. Eric Reid | S | LSU
2b. Shayne Skov | ILB | Stanford
3a. Oday Aboushi | OT | UVA
3b. Andrew Jackson | ILB | Western Kentucky
4. Tyrann Mathieu | CB | LSU
5. Kenjon Barner | RB | Oregon
6. Denard Robinson | Ath | Michigan
7. Kenny Tate | OLB/S | Maryland

I know not everyone is high on Reid, but I think Vaccaro is gone by this pick and I personally prefer Reid over Elam. Doubling up at ILB gives us much-needed depth and the potential for more talented players on the inside. Really like Aboushi, but is probably a guy that climbs up draft boards late after the Combine – Mathieu is a playmaker and could fill a role in Nickel/Dime packages. The Barner and Robinson picks are just looking for lightning in a bottle guys (this mock has Berry and Allen leaving, but I really like Rainey, too). Kenny Tate is a homer pick, but at worst, I think he’d make a serviceable special teams player, and you’re more than happy with that in the 7^th.

That’s all for now… feel free to tear me up and crush my hopes and dreams of replacing Oz one day.

Skov is going back to school and Andrew Jackson is terrible in coverage which kinda goes against our needs.

[Bravens292]

couple things..

i hope Kemo doesn't come back. he was terrible. i doubt we'll have anyone worse than him next year.
I see someone overpaying Cary. If he was stubborn with the Ravens (best in the biz), he'll make the stupid GM's make another dumb move.
As MH said, Shayne Skov is staying at school so you might want to redo the draft.

[ZIBBY28]

Skov is going back to school and Andrew Jackson is terrible in coverage which kinda goes against our needs.

Beat me to it... I came back to edit the Skov pick after I saw it, which changes a lot. Thanks, though.

Every prospect drafted on the 3rd day is going to have flaws. Jackson isn't an exception, I get it... but, give me a backer in the middle rounds that's buried on your depth chart with hope for the future and I'm happy. It's tough to find tape on him coming from a smaller school, but from what I've seen, that's not what he was asked to do. He's a thumper. Get him around NFL coaches, and he has a shot.

p.s. do you know if he's declared?

[ZIBBY28]

couple things..

i hope Kemo doesn't come back. he was terrible. i doubt we'll have anyone worse than him next year.
I see someone overpaying Cary. If he was stubborn with the Ravens (best in the biz), he'll make the stupid GM's make another dumb move.
As MH said, Shayne Skov is staying at school so you might want to redo the draft.

Kemo's a rotational guy... it wouldn't really phase me if he walked, but Cody hasn't been spectacular, either and I don't know if we have enough bodies on the interior to let him go. We certainly won't break the bank for him.

Yeah, I mentioned that Skov going back to school changes a lot... I'll start drawing in the dirt again.

[Miami Hurricane]

Beat me to it... I came back to edit the Skov pick after I saw it, which changes a lot. Thanks, though.

Every prospect drafted on the 3rd day is going to have flaws. Jackson isn't an exception, I get it... but, give me a backer in the middle rounds that's buried on your depth chart with hope for the future and I'm happy. It's tough to find tape on him coming from a smaller school, but from what I've seen, that's not what he was asked to do. He's a thumper. Get him around NFL coaches, and he has a shot.

p.s. do you know if he's declared?

I don't think he has declared as of yet

[rmw10]

Why would we let Allen walk? That makes no sense.

Edited by rmw10, 06 January 2013 - 01:45 AM.

[Miami Hurricane]

Why would we let Allen walk? That makes no sense.

I was wondering about that also

[ZIBBY28]

Why would we let Allen walk? That makes no sense.

I was wondering about that also

I don't see the upside in Allen. He played fine last week, but I just don't see it. I think Rainey is the better back. Although servicable, Allen hasn't been great on ST. I'd rather find a guy that has the potential for an expanded role on O,D, or ST late in the draft or as an UDFA who would also be cheaper than Allen at this point.

Again, it wouldn't really phase me either way. If that was the biggest complaint you had about the mock, well, thank you.

[Miami Hurricane]

I don't see the upside in Allen. He played fine last week, but I just don't see it. I think Rainey is the better back. Although servicable, Allen hasn't been great on ST. I'd rather find a guy that has the potential for an expanded role on O,D, or ST late in the draft or as an UDFA who would also be cheaper than Allen at this point.

Again, it wouldn't really phase me either way. If that was the biggest complaint you had about the mock, well, thank you.

He's played fantastic on special teams especially as JJ's lead blocker

[indianstick]

lol i stopped reading at resign kemoeatu

[ZIBBY28]

He's played fantastic on special teams especially as JJ's lead blocker

In this mock, he'd be the 5th best RB on the team IMO, and that's not including Robinson... It was a numbers game in my mind putting this together. Sure, he's made a handful of tackles on ST and has been good blocking for JJ, but I doubt we'd have trouble finding a replacement. I think we're selling JJ's return abilities short. I mean, I don't think Allen even touched anyone on JJ's first KR for a TD against the Cowboys lol.

I guess I misspoke... Allen has played well on ST. You're right, but again, I don't see the team keeping that many RBs active and would like to see some fresh new (cheap) faces.

p.s. I can't believe I actually put Barner and Robinson in this Madden-esq mock... ew.

[rmw10]

In this mock, he'd be the 5th best RB on the team IMO, and that's not including Robinson... It was a numbers game in my mind putting this together. Sure, he's made a handful of tackles on ST and has been good blocking for JJ, but I doubt we'd have trouble finding a replacement. I think we're selling JJ's return abilities short. I mean, I don't think Allen even touched anyone on JJ's first KR for a TD against the Cowboys lol.

I guess I misspoke... Allen has played well on ST. You're right, but again, I don't see the team keeping that many RBs active and would like to see some fresh new (cheap) faces.

p.s. I can't believe I actually put Barner and Robinson in this Madden-esq mock... ew.

Allen is a premiere ST guy. He's Jacoby's lead blocker. Jacoby has done nothing but praise him for the job he has done this season. You don't take away one of your playmakers' most trustworthy blockers. He's cheap, and his roster spot won't come down to the fact that he's a RB. He makes the roster as a ST player, although his position says RB. He's no more than a step-in at RB, but a bonafide starter on ST.

[Defence_Is_Salvation]

Kenny Tate....win.

[Miami Hurricane]

*Under construction

To preface this, I’m not completely sold on this draft. It's too "flashy" (especially in the later rounds) and quite frankly, going to end up unrealistic... not to mention, it’s waaay too early to tell where these prospects will fall, but I threw it together tonight to see what kind of feedback I’d get.

Retain all RFA & ERFA except:
Damien Berry and Anthony Allen

UFA that walk:
Billy Bajema, Sean Considine, Bryant McKinnie, Chris Johnson, Ryan McBean

*Dennis Dixon signs elsewhere (…with Chip Kelly’s team if he leaves Oregon)

Retirees:
Ray Lewis, Matt Birk, Ed Reed

Re-sign:
Joe Flacco - somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-15 mil/yr long term
Ma’ake Kemoeatu Fine. I give up.
Dannell Ellerbe
Paul Kruger
Cary Williams (1 year after not getting the deal he wants elsewhere)
James Ihedigbo
Omar Brown

Signings:
Austin Collie - with the emergence of the Colts’ young receivers and Collie’s troubling injury history, I think he’s out the door. With an incentive-based contract, I think Collie is a great fit, especially with his ties to Caldwell. We finally have speed on the outside with Smith and Jones, plus have the opportunity to develop younger guys like Streeter. Depending on how everything shakes out, Collie could be a potential replacement for Boldin in the future and take snaps from Jones in the meantime.

Draft:
1. Trade down
2a. Eric Reid | S | LSU
2b. Shayne Skov | ILB | Stanford (Returning to school)
3a. Oday Aboushi | OT | UVA
3b. Andrew Jackson | ILB | Western Kentucky
4. Tyrann Mathieu | CB | LSU
5. Kenjon Barner | RB | Oregon
6. Denard Robinson | Ath | Michigan
7. Kenny Tate | OLB/S | Maryland

I know not everyone is high on Reid, but I think Vaccaro is gone by this pick and many have Elam projected before Reid, too... he could fall. Doubling up at ILB gives us much-needed depth and the potential for more talented players on the inside. Really like Aboushi, but is probably a guy that climbs up draft boards late after the Combine – Mathieu is a playmaker and could fill a role in Nickel/Dime packages. The Barner and Robinson picks are just looking for lightning in a bottle guys (this mock has Berry and Allen leaving, but I really like Rainey, too). Kenny Tate is a homer pick, but at worst, I think he’d make a serviceable special teams player, and you’re more than happy with that in the 7^th.

That’s all for now… feel free to tear me up and crush my hopes and dreams of replacing Oz one day.

So we traded down for a 3rd and nothing else

[ZIBBY28]

So we traded down for a 3rd and nothing else

no?.. Like I said, I'm reworking it. That's why there's a 2a and 3a.

I just moved Aboushi into the second and haven't replace Skov.

[ZIBBY28]

...his roster spot won't come down to the fact that he's a RB. He makes the roster as a ST player, although his position says RB. He's no more than a step-in at RB, but a bonafide starter on ST.

Trust me, I understand that. He wouldn't be active each week w/o his ST abilities, but it really does matter what their natural position is. You can't keep 15 RBs, CBs, or WRs active each week just because they're your best ST players. I know I'm exaggerating, but again, if he stays, great, but it wouldn't make sense in this mock to retain him.

[Miami Hurricane]

no?.. Like I said, I'm reworking it. That's why there's a 2a and 3a.

I just moved Aboushi into the second and haven't replace Skov.

When I quoted Aboushi was still in the third and there was no 2B. But you added Kenny Tate so I thought you had already finished editing and maybe traded back for a future 1st and 3rd but I didn't see details of the trade anywhere...But now I see

[ZIBBY28]

When I quoted Aboushi was still in the third and there was no 2B. But you added Kenny Tate so I thought you had already finished editing and maybe traded back for a future 1st and 3rd but I didn't see details of the trade anywhere...But now I see

Gotcha... Tate has been there all along, but I pretty much just replaced Skov with Reddick at this point and took Kemo off the re-sign list, even though I don't know who replaces him at this point... I'll probably add a comp pick or two to try and do so.

[Miami Hurricane]

Gotcha... Tate has been there all along, but I pretty much just replaced Skov with Reddick at this point and took Kemo off the re-sign list, even though I don't know who replaces him at this point... I'll probably add a comp pick or two to try and do so.

I guess I just didn't realize Tate was there my bad