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CalvinSmoke

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A few days ago I wanted to see how some of my friends were rated on Rivals (coming out of high school) and i began to wonder... how did some of my Ravens rate coming out of high school? to my surprise almost all of them were 3 star recruits and below! I don't know if this is a testament to how good our team is at scouting, or if these 'expert' ratings are as bad as ESPN's football experts...

But take a look at the offense:

0 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Bobby-Rainey-46865;_ylt=AlhP9d2jWyopP13dJu15ebFIPZB4"]Bobby Rainey[/url], Billy Bajema, Dennis Pitta, Jacoby Jones, Ramon Harewood, Morgan Cox

1 Star -

2 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Bernard-Pierce-75799;_ylt=Ak9PMWsfx3LI8gG0dHuy_kNIPZB4"]Bernard Pierce[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tandon-Doss-63917;_ylt=At0Tf0vti.nuw5V4imDeu9BIPZB4"]Tandon Doss[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-LaQuan-Williams-47816;_ylt=Ahll1z3TtFpcB2GNxuf8FR1IPZB4"]Laquan Williams[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Jah-Reid-47070;_ylt=AnLAkn9J8m9zQ8kVUDp6V6BIPZB4"]Jah Reid[/url],

3 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Joe-Flacco-9013;_ylt=AhP1pGtouqQSTo821QbFdcNIPZB4"]Joe Flacco[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Raymell-Rice-25332;_ylt=AvL9vz.LC.mb5JZ5wTnRc1NIPZB4"]Ray Rice[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Anthony-Allen-38011;_ylt=At554JrG4im.IEyysYVa4GJIPZB4"]Anthony Allen[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Lonyae-Miller-38843;_ylt=AvOmblmC.WnqKBV7quv9f1NIPZB4"]Miller Lonyae[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Edward-Dickson-26918;_ylt=AuC2FLc_IdXgptEJi7ow0LpIPZB4"]Ed Dickson[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Alex-Silvestro-50106;_ylt=AoCpdnsYhL0U7tS0dfQJPsVIPZB4"]Alex Silvestro[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Torrey-Smith-38770;_ylt=AjEnyoHLL9YB1asf1SMxmRpIPZB4"]Torrey Smith[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-David-Reed-69067;_ylt=AlJ5hF6oijqXmvire9RGNK5IPZB4"]David Reed[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Jack-CornellJr.-47306;_ylt=Ah8Dj8H2_ABOgo4G146ZjPBIPZB4"]Jack Cornel[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Kelechi-Osemele-50773;_ylt=AhnZ1Q2.4SF6OyKYUzMTP_pIPZB4"]Kelechi Osmele[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Marshal-Yanda-32196;_ylt=AhRU2UiyGab.4tcQL6WNHTdIPZB4"]Marshal Yanda[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Gino-Gradkowski-43968;_ylt=AsHyT_vemsr6I8Ii4pupPftIPZB4"]Gino Gradkowski[/url]

4 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Dennis-Dixon-8561;_ylt=At9io8bGFc7bbiU7jTMyKVBIPZB4"]Dennis Dixon[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Damien-Berry-48704;_ylt=Avpx5IxZ9xG.GVkK6irtWlZIPZB4"]Damien Berry[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tommy-Streeter-60188;_ylt=AinHVg6n.mHUKUAbRnDuFltIPZB4"]Tommey Streeter[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Deonte-Thompson-40533;_ylt=AkUS2tMSm4BB6yMct58LRrxIPZB4"]Deonte Thompson[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Oher-27221;_ylt=AuedRVfJboOFpGvak5EpDoBIPZB4"]Michael Oher[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Antoine-McClain-62206;_ylt=ApG9ajNFXo0v6rdMdxjm2NhIPZB4"]Antoine McClain[/url],

5 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tyrod-Taylor-39099;_ylt=Ai.rsbHRJTauDMiKtsFj6VhIPZB4"]Tyrod Taylor[/url]
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And for our Defense:
0 Stars - Ricky Brown, Asa Jackson, [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Omar-Brown-70203;_ylt=Are4RSfr5JIqqPIYwAstusNIPZB4"]Omar Brown[/url], Anthony Levine, James Ihedigbo, [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Christian-Thompson-51527;_ylt=Aj..4slgGjq7KdKB1lZagLJIPZB4"]Christian Thompson[/url], D.J. Bryant, Corey Graham

1 Stars -

2 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Bryan-Hall-48122;_ylt=Ah8IxattnIYwc0k0L4u9S15IPZB4"]Bryan Hall[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Arthur-Jones-27679;_ylt=Ak_pf3kCQZWf8DT5.4AHKWZIPZB4"]Arthur Jones[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Pernell-McPhee-61539;_ylt=AtEcOB4G9E_BTtYpJ5i0JKhIPZB4"]Pernell Mcphee[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Albert-McClellan-31466;_ylt=Au.c7zTAn0HUKVjXo2iEMBhIPZB4"]Albert McClellan[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Paul-Kruger-23823;_ylt=AuQq.vSyxsr9g5Xv.MRk5YVIPZB4"]Paul Kruger[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Ladarius-Webb-23233;_ylt=AlPxtdY06lBtbAC9vavrFM9IPZB4"]Ladarius Webb[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Jameel-McClain-9497;_ylt=Av8FZVVQgzFfLzrkA1DpxSVIPZB4"]Jameel McClain[/url]

3 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Terrence-Cody-63052;_ylt=ArQffUpiVfRk.Qhb_K1bNLNIPZB4"]Terrence Cody[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Adrian-Hamilton-40017;_ylt=Ar99amRF8NTjtg_uMWuFinxIPZB4"]Adrian Hamilton[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Emanuel-Cook-35936;_ylt=AobdkRDtyrKOuu3IoBx2FRFIPZB4"]Emanuel Cook[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Bernard-Pollard-12574;_ylt=Avk.w1dMIV9iEBSFlnxa7HNIPZB4"]Bernard Pollard[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Michael-McAdoo-64783;_ylt=Ap6yskzXS7Nq4JSA0q4K5plIPZB4"]Michael Mcadoo[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Jimmy-Smith-41558;_ylt=AsL_iHs4OSUkLjpjDCa02dRIPZB4"]Jimmy Smith[/url]

4 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-DeAngelo-Tyson-58124;_ylt=AvVDH9BvRQZx1EhLVsROKXxIPZB4"]DeAngelo Tyson[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Chykie-Brown-36901;_ylt=AguRKOSBaJuzRIEax9OJXblIPZB4"]Chykie Brown[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Nigel-Carr-58820;_ylt=AqHdOvnAW3kx_9JjLn..eg1IPZB4"]Nigel Carr[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Josh-Bynes-45538;_ylt=AjKqsE4FQJSEwgNBalIZQBNIPZB4"]Josh Bynes[/url],[url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Dannell-Ellerbe-19230;_ylt=Aup9Sv8WgXQe1vqdzgnAc9hIPZB4"] Dannell Ellerbe[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Courtney-Upshaw-62986;_ylt=AtNAac38mmlxXT6zNDSmK_9IPZB4"]Courtney Upshaw[/url]

5 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Haloti-Ngata-2033;_ylt=Ap7mpQnIyIfc64qIhS2QwLdIPZB4"]Haloti Ngata[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Ryan-McBean-30253;_ylt=Amirpcga.v2Ba2GpQKP9UxNIPZB4"]Ryan Mcbean[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Sergio-Kindle-30267;_ylt=AvPkyZ7Pw3XkFHXM57fNlWdIPZB4"]Sergio Kindle[/url]
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And lastly our most special players:

0 Stars - Sam Koch

3 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Justin-Tucker-62142;_ylt=AqGn8s9vOuMX5Th3g6VQCNJIPZB4"]Justin Tucker[/url]
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[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1357317738' post='1289217']
And lastly our most special players:

0 Stars - Sam Koch

3 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Justin-Tucker-62142;_ylt=AqGn8s9vOuMX5Th3g6VQCNJIPZB4"]Justin Tucker[/url]
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Wow, they must have thought Sam Koch was Charlie Brown. Were they ever wrong about that.[/i][/font]
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[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1357317738' post='1289217']
And lastly our most special players:

0 Stars - Sam Koch

3 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Justin-Tucker-62142;_ylt=AqGn8s9vOuMX5Th3g6VQCNJIPZB4"]Justin Tucker[/url]
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does 0 stars just mean they don't have a page? there's no way they thought Sam was THAT bad, especially if he was as much of a monster then as he is now. the dude could be a tight end!
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[quote name='Latch' timestamp='1357318394' post='1289231']
does 0 stars just mean they don't have a page? there's no way they thought Sam was THAT bad, especially if he was as much of a monster then as he is now. the dude could be a tight end!
[/quote] If they don't have a link they didn't have a page. Which most likely means they didn't play varsity football their senior year.
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[quote name='Twistidfunk' timestamp='1357318862' post='1289241']
I guess Rivals doesn't have data for some of our [i]more[/i] veteran guys, lol

Thanks for posting.
[/quote] ha yea, it goes back to 2002 graduates
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Hmmm, I think it shows that some guys can be craptastic in high school, but put them in the right college program and suddenly they tear it up.
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[quote name='terpsnation' timestamp='1357320193' post='1289267']
I thinf the analysts don't know anything.
[/quote]i thinf this to
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[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1357316517' post='1289190']
A few days ago I wanted to see how some of my friends were rated on Rivals (coming out of high school) and i began to wonder... how did some of my Ravens rate coming out of high school? to my surprise almost all of them were 3 star recruits and below! I don't know if this is a testament to how good our team is at scouting, or if these 'expert' ratings are as bad as ESPN's football experts...

But take a look at the offense:

0 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Bobby-Rainey-46865;_ylt=AlhP9d2jWyopP13dJu15ebFIPZB4"]Bobby Rainey[/url], Billy Bajema, Dennis Pitta, Jacoby Jones, Ramon Harewood, Morgan Cox

1 Star -

2 Stars - [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Bernard-Pierce-75799;_ylt=Ak9PMWsfx3LI8gG0dHuy_kNIPZB4"]Bernard Pierce[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tandon-Doss-63917;_ylt=At0Tf0vti.nuw5V4imDeu9BIPZB4"]Tandon Doss[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-LaQuan-Williams-47816;_ylt=Ahll1z3TtFpcB2GNxuf8FR1IPZB4"]Laquan Williams[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Jah-Reid-47070;_ylt=AnLAkn9J8m9zQ8kVUDp6V6BIPZB4"]Jah Reid[/url],

[u][b]3 Stars - ***[url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Joe-Flacco-9013;_ylt=AhP1pGtouqQSTo821QbFdcNIPZB4"]Joe Flacco[/url]***[/b][/u], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Raymell-Rice-25332;_ylt=AvL9vz.LC.mb5JZ5wTnRc1NIPZB4"]Ray Rice[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Anthony-Allen-38011;_ylt=At554JrG4im.IEyysYVa4GJIPZB4"]Anthony Allen[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Lonyae-Miller-38843;_ylt=AvOmblmC.WnqKBV7quv9f1NIPZB4"]Miller Lonyae[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Edward-Dickson-26918;_ylt=AuC2FLc_IdXgptEJi7ow0LpIPZB4"]Ed Dickson[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Alex-Silvestro-50106;_ylt=AoCpdnsYhL0U7tS0dfQJPsVIPZB4"]Alex Silvestro[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Torrey-Smith-38770;_ylt=AjEnyoHLL9YB1asf1SMxmRpIPZB4"]Torrey Smith[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-David-Reed-69067;_ylt=AlJ5hF6oijqXmvire9RGNK5IPZB4"]David Reed[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Jack-CornellJr.-47306;_ylt=Ah8Dj8H2_ABOgo4G146ZjPBIPZB4"]Jack Cornel[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Kelechi-Osemele-50773;_ylt=AhnZ1Q2.4SF6OyKYUzMTP_pIPZB4"]Kelechi Osmele[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Marshal-Yanda-32196;_ylt=AhRU2UiyGab.4tcQL6WNHTdIPZB4"]Marshal Yanda[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Gino-Gradkowski-43968;_ylt=AsHyT_vemsr6I8Ii4pupPftIPZB4"]Gino Gradkowski[/url]

[u][b]4 Stars - ***[url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Dennis-Dixon-8561;_ylt=At9io8bGFc7bbiU7jTMyKVBIPZB4"]Dennis Dixon[/url]***[/b][/u], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Damien-Berry-48704;_ylt=Avpx5IxZ9xG.GVkK6irtWlZIPZB4"]Damien Berry[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tommy-Streeter-60188;_ylt=AinHVg6n.mHUKUAbRnDuFltIPZB4"]Tommey Streeter[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Deonte-Thompson-40533;_ylt=AkUS2tMSm4BB6yMct58LRrxIPZB4"]Deonte Thompson[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Oher-27221;_ylt=AuedRVfJboOFpGvak5EpDoBIPZB4"]Michael Oher[/url], [url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Antoine-McClain-62206;_ylt=ApG9ajNFXo0v6rdMdxjm2NhIPZB4"]Antoine McClain[/url],

[b][u]5 Stars - ***[url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Tyrod-Taylor-39099;_ylt=Ai.rsbHRJTauDMiKtsFj6VhIPZB4"]Tyrod Taylor[/url]***[/u][/b]
[/quote]

Hahahaha
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[quote name='CosmicRedPanda' timestamp='1357317965' post='1289221']
[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Wow, they must have thought Sam Koch was Charlie Brown. Were they ever wrong about that.[/i][/font]
[/quote]

Koch has been snubbed a lot, apparently since high school :lol:.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1357327257' post='1289384']
Hahahaha
[/quote]
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't let RBates see this. He will start the mobile thing and why Flacco was rated so low
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1357327534' post='1289391']
What the hell is a funny thinf? No seriously, what is it?
[/quote]ha, at this point it's just a joke man.The title i had typed out was "A funny thinf I noticed" but not only did i realize there was a typo but I wanted to change the title all together. The entire thing posted as i was changing it though, so it was most likely my fault. (Thing instead of Thinf)
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1357327580' post='1289395']
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't let RBates see this. He will start the mobile thing and why Flacco was rated so low
[/quote]

Well really, these rankings are based on things like mobility and speed. High school players are ranked on athleticism and size. Of course, talent has a lot to do with it too, but it's mostly athleticism and size.
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[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1357327802' post='1289400']
ha, at this point it's just a joke man.The title i had typed out was "A funny thinf I noticed" but not only did i realize there was a typo but I wanted to change the title all together. The entire thing posted as i was changing it though, so it was most likely my fault. (Thing instead of Thinf)
[/quote]
IK, I was just screwin with you...
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1357327853' post='1289403']
Well really, these rankings are based on things like mobility and speed. High school players are ranked on athleticism and size. Of course, talent has a lot to do with it too, but it's mostly athleticism and size.
[/quote]
Hence Ray Rice being a three star...
But knowin ol RBates he will use this some how
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1357327853' post='1289403']
Well really, these rankings are based on things like mobility and speed. High school players are ranked on athleticism and size. Of course, talent has a lot to do with it too, but it's mostly athleticism and size.
[/quote]Your right, also division and stats.
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QB ranks from Joe's 2003 class:

#6 Jamarcus Russell
#10 Brady Quinn
#16 Matt Flynn
#25 Matt Ryan
#40 Joe Flacco

Never heard of any of the rest.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-189
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1357327534' post='1289391']
What the hell is a funny thinf? No seriously, what is it?
[/quote]

Smallow and reat!
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[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1357328395' post='1289414']
QB ranks from Joe's 2003 class:

#6 Jamarcus Russell
#10 Brady Quinn
#16 Matt Flynn
#25 Matt Ryan
#40 Joe Flacco

Never heard of any of the rest.

[url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-189"]http://rivals.yahoo....nkings/rank-189[/url]
[/quote]
Wow. These experts are idiots!
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[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1357328395' post='1289414']
QB ranks from Joe's 2003 class:

#6 Jamarcus Russell
#10 Brady Quinn
#16 Matt Flynn
#25 Matt Ryan
#40 Joe Flacco

Never heard of any of the rest.

[url="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-189"]http://rivals.yahoo....nkings/rank-189[/url]
[/quote]

Chris Leak was number 2 on the list, he won a national championship with Florida over .... drumroll .... Troy Smith's Ohio State Buckeyes. Andre Woodson number 7, he was graded higher than Flacco by a lot of "experts" before the 2008 draft.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1357329420' post='1289434']
Didn't Harewood go to high school in another country? I think that would result in 0 stars, too.
[/quote] Right, He wasn't in America.
[quote name='berad' timestamp='1357329616' post='1289438']
This is hilarious! Jacoby is an athletic beast, he must have changed a lot or not played in HS
[/quote] I think Jacoby was a track star in high school.
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