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[Purple_ICE 81]

*Late round or trade up candidates

1. Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia-Last year most mocks had us taking Donta Hightower or Vontaze Burfict, and a lot of people wanted a Ray Lewis successor. I think this is the year to do it after Lewis declared for retirement after the season.

Ogletree is in my opinion the second best ILB next to Manti Teo. Ogletree is s very athletic and dynamic player who is good in coverage and is a hard hitter. Mel Kiper and Todd Mcshay think he is a solid top 20-30 player and could go top 10. I think he will fall to the 20s and might be a trade up candidate. I really think we need to consider ILB with our first pick, and Teo will likely be gone in the first 10 picks so going with Ogletree would be solid.

2. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State- Going into the 2012 season our secondary was very intact, however we will come out of it bruised and confused with a lot of questions. Will Lardarius Webb still play at a high level after his second knee tear? Will Jimmy Smith continue to be a liablitly both from injuries and lack of good play? And Cary williams is good some games, and others he plays awful.

I wouldnt be surprised to see another cornerback selection with our first round pick. Xavier Rhodes would be a solid selection. Rhodes reminds me of Nnamdi Asomugha back when he played for the raiders. Teams think twice when throwing his way and when they do he keeps most receivers without much. He is projected in the 20s and I think he would be a solid pick considering our questionable secondary.

3. Robert Woods WR USC- As Ozzie said before last years draft "you can never have too many wideouts", and we didnt do anything to add depth to our receiving corps besides getting inept WR Tommy Streeter. Anquan Boldin is nearing the end of his contract and is losing tread on his tires. Torrey is good, but then who? We have hopefuls in Jacoby Jones, Laquan Williams ho never really plays, and Deonte Thompson who had a promising pre season last year.

I would like to see the Ravens draft a young stud-looking receiver, one of the top prospects, someone who can make an impact next season. A top 5 receiver in this years draft and one of my favorite receivers is Robert Woods. He had an off year due to injuries and still played well at times. But in 2011 he was a monster not just production wise, but he looks like a very good candidate. He runs good routes, hes blazing fast (around 4.3/4.4), and he looks like he can produce at the next level. We would likely have to trade up for him but I honestly think it could be worth it.

People on here will say what they always say "they draft has decent receivers in rounds 3-4" well if you look at the Raven's hopes and dreams its to become a better passing offense. We need more receivers and we might as well grab a good one. Although I like Justin Hunter the best out of all the receivers this year, I think Woods is one of the more promising ones.

4. Dj Fluker OT Alabama- Ever since he was a freshman he looked destined for greatness just due to his physical nature. Last year he looked like a beast and I had us grabbing him with our first round pick, only to realize that he opted to stay another year. He still doesnt know whether he wants to enter the draft but all signs point to it. I watched the game he had against LSU and their mamoth pass rusher Barkevious Mingo (who will go top 5 or 10 this year), and for the most part FLuker kept him in his place, and some called it his best performance ever. Fuker looks like a solid pickup, and is projected to go in the 20s.


5. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri- The Ravens used to be the hardest team to run on. The past few seasons our defense slowly declined and this year we allowed a lot of teams to take advantage of our poorous runD. Adding depth to the d-line could help, Richardson looks like a beast one of the best d-linemen in the class, and arguably the dontari poe of this years combine, hes very athletic and plays fast.

Just some thoughts I think the positions of most importance this offseason are 1. ILB 2.WR 3. OL 4. DL 5. DB. But theres still a chance that we will get the 32nd pick aka a superbowl championship so lets hope for the best.

Edited by Purple_ICE 81, 03 January 2013 - 05:56 AM.

[horus13corvineus]

I really like the Ogletree pick. Said somewhere else we'll get at least a couple of LBs in this next draft and this lad looks like a good deal for the 32nd pick

[Clutch Ravens]

I like Rhodes, but the rest are a little off:

1. Ogletree - This is more of a personal thing. Unless you're a very special talent (a la Willis, Bowman, Washington) you don't belong in the first round as an ILB. The position is just too low of an impact unless it's an all-pro player and I don't see what makes Ogletree any better than a lot of guys with mid-round grades.

3. Woods - I like Woods, but I don't think he goes at the end of the first unless he destroys the combine. In fact, I think he's more likely to go at the end of the 2nd than the end of the 1st.

4. Fluker - Very meh this season and another reach. I haven't seen him projected anywhere above the mid-2nd since the very first mocks of the year

5. Richardson - I'd say there's about a 1% chance he doesn't go before #32. He has had as good a season as anyone this year. He'd need to mess up at the combine and in interviews.

[arnie_uk]

No, just no to Fluker. He's a guard in this league and if you draft him as a tackle you will be disappointed. He's also been awful this year.

No to ogleetree for me, not a fan of him, can't take on blocks when he doesn't avoid them, misses too many tackles. I'd rather have four or five guys instead of him. Arthur brown, minter, hodges etc. all second to third round guys.

[Blackbird11]

The only player I would take on that list in the first is Rhodes, and CB isn't that big of a need. Ogletree is too skinny and his aggressive, high-tackling won't fly in the NFL (though he has potential to bulk up and learn technique). Fluker is not good just because he is on the Crimson Tide. We don't need Woods. Richardson would be great, but he'll be gone early on.

[Miami Hurricane]

*Late round or trade up candidates

1. Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia-Last year most mocks had us taking Donta Hightower or Vontaze Burfict, and a lot of people wanted a Ray Lewis successor. I think this is the year to do it after Lewis declared for retirement after the season.

Ogletree is in my opinion the second best ILB next to Manti Teo. Ogletree is s very athletic and dynamic player who is good in coverage and is a hard hitter. Mel Kiper and Todd Mcshay think he is a solid top 20-30 player and could go top 10. I think he will fall to the 20s and might be a trade up candidate. I really think we need to consider ILB with our first pick, and Teo will likely be gone in the first 10 picks so going with Ogletree would be solid.

2. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State- Going into the 2012 season our secondary was very intact, however we will come out of it bruised and confused with a lot of questions. Will Lardarius Webb still play at a high level after his second knee tear? Will Jimmy Smith continue to be a liablitly both from injuries and lack of good play? And Cary williams is good some games, and others he plays awful.

I wouldnt be surprised to see another cornerback selection with our first round pick. Xavier Rhodes would be a solid selection. Rhodes reminds me of Nnamdi Asomugha back when he played for the raiders. Teams think twice when throwing his way and when they do he keeps most receivers without much. He is projected in the 20s and I think he would be a solid pick considering our questionable secondary.

3. Robert Woods WR USC- As Ozzie said before last years draft "you can never have too many wideouts", and we didnt do anything to add depth to our receiving corps besides getting inept WR Tommy Streeter. Anquan Boldin is nearing the end of his contract and is losing tread on his tires. Torrey is good, but then who? We have hopefuls in Jacoby Jones, Laquan Williams ho never really plays, and Deonte Thompson who had a promising pre season last year.

I would like to see the Ravens draft a young stud-looking receiver, one of the top prospects, someone who can make an impact next season. A top 5 receiver in this years draft and one of my favorite receivers is Robert Woods. He had an off year due to injuries and still played well at times. But in 2011 he was a monster not just production wise, but he looks like a very good candidate. He runs good routes, hes blazing fast (around 4.3/4.4), and he looks like he can produce at the next level. We would likely have to trade up for him but I honestly think it could be worth it.

People on here will say what they always say "they draft has decent receivers in rounds 3-4" well if you look at the Raven's hopes and dreams its to become a better passing offense. We need more receivers and we might as well grab a good one. Although I like Justin Hunter the best out of all the receivers this year, I think Woods is one of the more promising ones.

4. Dj Fluker OT Alabama- Ever since he was a freshman he looked destined for greatness just due to his physical nature. Last year he looked like a beast and I had us grabbing him with our first round pick, only to realize that he opted to stay another year. He still doesnt know whether he wants to enter the draft but all signs point to it. I watched the game he had against LSU and their mamoth pass rusher Barkevious Mingo (who will go top 5 or 10 this year), and for the most part FLuker kept him in his place, and some called it his best performance ever. Fuker looks like a solid pickup, and is projected to go in the 20s.


5. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri- The Ravens used to be the hardest team to run on. The past few seasons our defense slowly declined and this year we allowed a lot of teams to take advantage of our poorous runD. Adding depth to the d-line could help, Richardson looks like a beast one of the best d-linemen in the class, and arguably the dontari poe of this years combine, hes very athletic and plays fast.

Just some thoughts I think the positions of most importance this offseason are 1. ILB 2.WR 3. OL 4. DL 5. DB. But theres still a chance that we will get the 32nd pick aka a superbowl championship so lets hope for the best.

I disagree with all except Richardson who will be a beast but will go top 20

[black blood purple passion]

I don't like Ogletree in run support. He's easily blocked when engaged, and cannot shed to save his life. He catches the majority of his tackles after a 5 yard gain. His coverage is quite good though I'll give him that.

With respect to your comments on streeter, when players gave quotes about the young players, Boldin was quoted as saying Tommy Streeter was beating everyone INCLUDING Lardarius, so your opinion on him being inept may be quite false.

[gabefergy]

My top 5 would be--

1) Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan. He has all the tools to be a great NFL LT. He needs to get a little stronger and improve some technique, but he has elite size, ability to bend, and feet.

2) Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas. I think Vaccaro is the concensus #1 safety, but because of the position he might slip a bit. Hard hitter and great in coverage. I would love him in the first.

3) Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU. An incredible physical specimen, Ansah has potential to be one of the premier defensive players in the NFL. I've talked about him a lot on these boards but I think he could be a real difference maker on our defense. Only been playing football for 3 years and his game really took on a new level this year.

4) Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia. Ogletree isn't #1 on my priority, but his talent is legit. I think he can be a good player for us immediately in sub-packages and with some experience could become a physical 3 down LB.

5) Shariff FLoyd, DT, Florida. I like Richardson more, but he is a virtual lock to go top 10-15. Floyd should be there near the end of the 1st round and I like more than pretty much any other DT not named Star, Hankins, or Richardson. He's not a NT, but if we have another dominant DE Ngata could move inside.

Edited by gabefergy, 03 January 2013 - 04:55 PM.

[arnie_uk]

Haven't seen much of kv, what does he do that's better than Elam?

[GrimCoconut]

That's one of the ugliest lists ever. I don't like it at all. Fluker is terrible. He is not a LT. Perhaps a guard but even there I am doubtful. Woods is OK, I like Patton better than him. Rhodes is a good player but why not get Elam?

Richardson looks good but I think his stats & athleticism skyrocket him up the board.

As for Ogletree, I am not fond of him anymore. I liked him before but after watching more games on him I am not big on him at all.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 03 January 2013 - 03:27 PM.

[Bravens292]

That's one of the ugliest lists ever. I don't like it at all. Fluker is terrible. He is not a LT. Perhaps a guard but even there I am doubtful. Woods is OK, I like Patton better than him. Rhodes is a good player but why not get Elam?

Richardson looks good but I think his stats & athleticism skyrocket him up the board.

As for Ogletree, I am not fond of him anymore. I liked him before but after watching more games on him I am not big on him at all.

rhodes is good and all but when i was reading this, i thought he made a list of the busts of this years draft.
Ogletree - erratic, blown back off the ball
Fluker - god awful, not a tackle whatsoever. His name is Fluke-r for a reason.
Richardson - don't like skyrocketing prospects, always 1-2 every year
Woods - not a first round WR at all anymore. injury hurt him badly.

[gabefergy]

Haven't seen much of kv, what does he do that's better than Elam?

He's better in coverage and he is bigger and faster.

[arnie_uk]

He's better in coverage and he is bigger and faster.

has he the leadership qualities and tackling ability of Elam?

[black blood purple passion]

My top 5 would be--

1) Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan. He has all the tools to be a great NFL LT. He needs to get a little stronger and improve some technique, but he has elite size, ability to bend, and feet.

2) Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas. I think Vaccaro is the concensus #1 safety, but because of the position he might slip a bit. Hard hitter and great in coverage. I would love him in the first.

3) Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU. An incredible physical specimen, Ansah has potential to be one of the premier defensive players in the NFL. I've talked about him a lot on these boards but I think he could be a real difference maker on our defense. Only been playing football for 3 years and his game really took on a new level this year.

4) Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia. Ogletree isn't #1 on my priority, but his talent is legit. I think he can be a good player for us immediately in sub-packages and with some experience could become a physical 3 down LB.

5) Shariff FLoyd, DT, Florida. I like Richardson more, but he is a virtual lock to go top 10-15. Floyd should be there near the end of the 1st round and I like more than pretty much any other DT not named Star, Hankins, or Richardson. He's not a NT, but if we have another dominant DE Ngata could move inside.

I like your top 5. I love the idea of Ziggy...in the second round but I know he'll be lucky to make it to us in the first with his potential. Its just been so long since we've had a "sure thing prospect" but at 32, I wouldn't complain apparently this guy is in the coach's office all the time trying to learn and develop and I think those are the guys that thrive in our system. It's a gamble for sure, but if it worked out, this guy could be a MONSTER.

[black blood purple passion]

has he the leadership qualities and tackling ability of Elam?

Leadership....maybe. I'd compare Elam to Pollard but faster, he's a freak. Vaccaro I feel is the leader of that secondary but, you can definitely see Elam as an Ed Reed, where he gets the guys fired up, I think Vaccarro is more of a leader in the respect that he isn't the guy that gets the D fired up, but he gets everyone in the right position.

To summarize, they both get everyone in the right position and understand the defence, but Elam is more of a vocal leader.

[gabefergy]

has he the leadership qualities and tackling ability of Elam?

I cant really attest to his leadership, but I know for a fact he is a great tackler. He frequently played up close to the LOS. He is big too, 6'1, 215.

[arnie_uk]

I cant really attest to his leadership, but I know for a fact he is a great tackler. He frequently played up close to the LOS. He is big too, 6'1, 215.

is he liable to personal fouls etc? I thought he punched someone or something in the bowl game and was lucky to not get ejected

[bravensfan52]

I cant really attest to his leadership, but I know for a fact he is a great tackler. He frequently played up close to the LOS. He is big too, 6'1, 215.

Elam is 5'10

[arnie_uk]

Elam is 5'10

Elam is 5'10

hes talking about KV

[Ravenslifer]

*Late round or trade up candidates

1. Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia-Last year most mocks had us taking Donta Hightower or Vontaze Burfict, and a lot of people wanted a Ray Lewis successor. I think this is the year to do it after Lewis declared for retirement after the season.

Ogletree is in my opinion the second best ILB next to Manti Teo. Ogletree is s very athletic and dynamic player who is good in coverage and is a hard hitter. Mel Kiper and Todd Mcshay think he is a solid top 20-30 player and could go top 10. I think he will fall to the 20s and might be a trade up candidate. I really think we need to consider ILB with our first pick, and Teo will likely be gone in the first 10 picks so going with Ogletree would be solid.

2. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State- Going into the 2012 season our secondary was very intact, however we will come out of it bruised and confused with a lot of questions. Will Lardarius Webb still play at a high level after his second knee tear? Will Jimmy Smith continue to be a liablitly both from injuries and lack of good play? And Cary williams is good some games, and others he plays awful.

I wouldnt be surprised to see another cornerback selection with our first round pick. Xavier Rhodes would be a solid selection. Rhodes reminds me of Nnamdi Asomugha back when he played for the raiders. Teams think twice when throwing his way and when they do he keeps most receivers without much. He is projected in the 20s and I think he would be a solid pick considering our questionable secondary.

3. Robert Woods WR USC- As Ozzie said before last years draft "you can never have too many wideouts", and we didnt do anything to add depth to our receiving corps besides getting inept WR Tommy Streeter. Anquan Boldin is nearing the end of his contract and is losing tread on his tires. Torrey is good, but then who? We have hopefuls in Jacoby Jones, Laquan Williams ho never really plays, and Deonte Thompson who had a promising pre season last year.

I would like to see the Ravens draft a young stud-looking receiver, one of the top prospects, someone who can make an impact next season. A top 5 receiver in this years draft and one of my favorite receivers is Robert Woods. He had an off year due to injuries and still played well at times. But in 2011 he was a monster not just production wise, but he looks like a very good candidate. He runs good routes, hes blazing fast (around 4.3/4.4), and he looks like he can produce at the next level. We would likely have to trade up for him but I honestly think it could be worth it.

People on here will say what they always say "they draft has decent receivers in rounds 3-4" well if you look at the Raven's hopes and dreams its to become a better passing offense. We need more receivers and we might as well grab a good one. Although I like Justin Hunter the best out of all the receivers this year, I think Woods is one of the more promising ones.

4. Dj Fluker OT Alabama- Ever since he was a freshman he looked destined for greatness just due to his physical nature. Last year he looked like a beast and I had us grabbing him with our first round pick, only to realize that he opted to stay another year. He still doesnt know whether he wants to enter the draft but all signs point to it. I watched the game he had against LSU and their mamoth pass rusher Barkevious Mingo (who will go top 5 or 10 this year), and for the most part FLuker kept him in his place, and some called it his best performance ever. Fuker looks like a solid pickup, and is projected to go in the 20s.


5. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri- The Ravens used to be the hardest team to run on. The past few seasons our defense slowly declined and this year we allowed a lot of teams to take advantage of our poorous runD. Adding depth to the d-line could help, Richardson looks like a beast one of the best d-linemen in the class, and arguably the dontari poe of this years combine, hes very athletic and plays fast.

Just some thoughts I think the positions of most importance this offseason are 1. ILB 2.WR 3. OL 4. DL 5. DB. But theres still a chance that we will get the 32nd pick aka a superbowl championship so lets hope for the best.

If it were up to me I'd probably rather draft a safety, either Kenny Vaccaro or Matt Elam, in the first round over a cornerback. And I personally don't see ILB as a huge need - the position to me is just not that important anymore to justify burning an early pick unless somehow we were in position to draft a player on the caliber of Manti Te'O.