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[flaccopoe]

• Kansas City Chiefs
• Jacksonville Jaguars
• Oakland Raiders
• Philadelphia Eagles
• Detroit Lions
• Cleveland Browns
• Arizona Cardinals
• Buffalo Bills
• New York Jets
• Tennessee Titans
• San Diego Chargers
• Miami Dolphins
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers
• Carolina Panthers
• New Orleans Saints
• St. Louis Rams
• Pittsburgh Steelers
• Dallas Cowboys
• New York Giants
• Chicago Bears

The draft order for April, 2013! This makes for many interesting conundrums. What would you do if you were the GM for one of the higher draft picks with gaping needs, such as the #9 Pick Jets, who have no QBs whatsoever? What QBs should KC and JAC take? Should CLE stick with 28-year old Weeden, or try to patch up their abysmal run defense? What WR should the anemic Chargers' offense pick up?

[T3hRaven]

The Jets can probably stay put and get a QB just fine. They all suck about the same I would say. I could see Jacksonville going defense, as that seems like the more talented side of the ball this year. Cleveland is probably going to stick with old man Weeden for another year unless they get Mallett. As for the Chargers, that one I actually don't have a good answer for. They could try FA and get Bowe, but Keenan Allen might be the best fit scheme wise based on current projections if they're sticking with the Fail Coryell. But again, a lot of these teams are going defense or addressing other positions in the first round. Day 2 for QBs is more interesting for me.

Edited by T3hRaven, 31 December 2012 - 02:30 AM.

[Mt. Crushmore]

If the Chargers can get one of the OTs I think they will.

[flaccopoe]

If the Chargers can get one of the OTs I think they will.

A good idea! Rivers got forced into fumbling the ball a lot this season. As we've seen, if you give Rivers the right protection and an adequate receiving corps, he can be a scary QB (except in the playoffs!)

[black blood purple passion]

from my point of view theres only 3 OT's worth taking in the first round Joeckel, Matthews and Lewan. A desperate team may take Eric Fisher but I'd like to see him play at the senior bowl first.

If any of those three are sitting there and Star L. isn't, pull the trigger Oz!

[JO_75]

A good idea! Rivers got forced into fumbling the ball a lot this season. As we've seen, if you give Rivers the right protection and an adequate receiving corps, he can be a scary QB (except in the playoffs!)

I'm curious to know if the new GM will keep Rivers around. Rivers is 31 and will be 32 next year, I wouldn't be surprised if the new GM trades Rivers and goes with a younger QB.

[flaccopoe]

I'm curious to know if the new GM will keep Rivers around. Rivers is 31 and will be 32 next year, I wouldn't be surprised if the new GM trades Rivers and goes with a younger QB.

If only there were good QBs available! They'll have to stick with Rivers, I'm afraid. He did managed to end his season without any turnovers, which is a notable improvement.

[gabefergy]

from my point of view theres only 3 OT's worth taking in the first round Joeckel, Matthews and Lewan. A desperate team may take Eric Fisher but I'd like to see him play at the senior bowl first.

If any of those three are sitting there and Star L. isn't, pull the trigger Oz!

I think Fisher has more upside than Matthews. They will probably both go in the first. Matthews Im not sure has the feet to play LT

[JO_75]

I must say, this is the most oddest draft order in the past ten years lol. Eagles top picking in the top 5, Lions picking in the top 5 after being in the playoffs, Saints and Giants picking in the top 20 after one was in the playoffs and another won the Super Bowl. The Rams picking 16th?? Crazy draft order.

[ravefan52]

I must say, this is the most oddest draft order in the past ten years lol. Eagles top picking in the top 5, Lions picking in the top 5 after being in the playoffs, Saints and Giants picking in the top 20 after one was in the playoffs and another won the Super Bowl. The Rams picking 16th?? Crazy draft order.

And the teams picking top two last year not even in the top 20 this year

[redlobster]

I think lewan improved his draft stock , the parts I saw he was handling jedavion clowney pretty good , I know clowney finished the bowl game with 4 tackles a ff and fr

[Mt. Crushmore]

I think lewan improved his draft stock , the parts I saw he was handling jedavion clowney pretty good , I know clowney finished the bowl game with 4 tackles a ff and fr

And an amazing hit.

[redlobster]

And an amazing hit.

Very true he killed that Michigan running back

[GrimCoconut]

• Kansas City Chiefs
• Jacksonville Jaguars
• Oakland Raiders
• Philadelphia Eagles
• Detroit Lions
• Cleveland Browns
• Arizona Cardinals
• Buffalo Bills
• New York Jets
• Tennessee Titans
• San Diego Chargers
• Miami Dolphins
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers
• Carolina Panthers
• New Orleans Saints
• St. Louis Rams
• Pittsburgh Steelers
• Dallas Cowboys
• New York Giants
• Chicago Bears

At least 8 of the top 10 teams on that list could use a QB. Then 4 out of the teams from 11-20 could use a very good back-up QB or a QB who could eventually replace their QB. Obviously not all of those teams will take a QB and some will adopt a Bengals or Seahawks approach to drafting a QB, but regardless: teams will take chances in this draft. Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, Landry Jones, & Tajh Boyd are all QBs who I believe will go between the first two rounds, regardless of a weak class. The reason is simple: more teams need QBs than last year. Last year's free agency had Peyton Manning, as well as Matt Flynn who really got things hot. I'm sure Vick becomes a free agent, but outside of him there's no real top QB unless some more guys lose their jobs, and I don't see any top talent losing their job. Joe Flacco is the top choice at free agency in a QB, which we most likely tag or work out a deal before the deadline.

I think this bodes well for the Ravens. Some of those teams that don't need QBs need WRs or OL (unfortunately). They will most likely take those types of players. Also, CBs are very valuable in addition to pass rushers. We have an abundance of CBs, and I am not worried about Webb's recovery. Yes, he has had two surgeries but it is difficult to tear a repaired ACL due to the structure of the repaired ligament. He also did it once, so I believe he can do it again. Williams will walk in free agency.

I also don't think our pass rushers are that bad. We've been snake-bit with our pass-rush. Suggs had a torn Achilles then biceps. McAdoo, who looked promising, tore his Achilles. Then Kruger gets injured and now starts to come around. I like Kruger and would take him over Williams, but if we do go on to the Super Bowl and especially if we win, we will be unable to retain Kruger. But I don't think that's necessarily terrible. I feel like we have some good pass rushers in Suggs, McAdoo, & Hamilton from what we've seen so far. Yes, it does leave us thin and no, we should not ignore the position but I don't think we should be desperate.

So, I feel like this is a well-tailored draft for our needs compared to that of our competition.

[flaccopoe]

I wonder who the lower-ranked draft picks like PIT and CHI will pick? I'm thinking CHI has to pick up an O-linemen. Cutler gets sacked like crazy and they have an uber-defense, so no need to improve that.

[JO_75]

I wonder who the lower-ranked draft picks like PIT and CHI will pick? I'm thinking CHI has to pick up an O-linemen. Cutler gets sacked like crazy and they have an uber-defense, so no need to improve that.

I can see Barrett Jones to Chicago to be the new Center and Pittsburgh taking one of the Nose Tackles to replace Hampton.

[indianstick]

I wonder who the lower-ranked draft picks like PIT and CHI will pick? I'm thinking CHI has to pick up an O-linemen. Cutler gets sacked like crazy and they have an uber-defense, so no need to improve that.

I can see Barrett Jones to Chicago to be the new Center and Pittsburgh taking one of the Nose Tackles to replace Hampton.

Chicago will definitely target Oline with their 20th overall pick. They basically need to overhaul their oline so any position is needed but LT is the biggest need. J'marcus webb is easily the worst LT in the league. I don't know if Eric Fisher will be there with their 20th but they would pounce on him hard.

Pitt has a need at NT, Jonathon Hankins and Jonathon jenkins would be great picks for them at 18 to anchor their 3-4 D and replace casey hampton. But, I actually see them grabbing one of the DE/OLBs. James harrison is owed about 6.5 mill next season and hes turning 35, they need to find a replacement for him and with a lot pass rushers being available when they pick (Mingo, dion jordan, bjoern werner, sam montgomery, ezekiel ansah, corey lemonier) A couple of these guys should be available when they pick and I think they will prolly go with one of them.

[GrimCoconut]

Chicago will definitely target Oline with their 20th overall pick. They basically need to overhaul their oline so any position is needed but LT is the biggest need. J'marcus webb is easily the worst LT in the league. I don't know if Eric Fisher will be there with their 20th but they would pounce on him hard.

Pitt has a need at NT, Jonathon Hankins and Jonathon jenkins would be great picks for them at 18 to anchor their 3-4 D and replace casey hampton. But, I actually see them grabbing one of the DE/OLBs. James harrison is owed about 6.5 mill next season and hes turning 35, they need to find a replacement for him and with a lot pass rushers being available when they pick (Mingo, dion jordan, bjoern werner, sam montgomery, ezekiel ansah, corey lemonier) A couple of these guys should be available when they pick and I think they will prolly go with one of them.

I agree with you about Chicago because I thought they would take a LT last year. But then again, they could be one to lure one of the FA LTs instead. Also, as for Pittsburgh, I disagree here. I think they take a DL, specifically a NT like Hankins who can play DE or NT if available. I can see them target an OLB in the next round due to the depth of the draft in OLBs.

[flaccopoe]

I could easily envision ATL trading for Eddie Lacy's draft pick. One of the main pieces missing from their offense is a stable running game. The Falcons will need to prepare for the end of Turner.

[Corvus Amplus]

This shows that there will be a lot of action in the end of the 1st round and top of the 2nd round because that's where the value of the QBs of this year's draft class are.

This could help our team to trade out of the 1st round to load up on dropping talents. I liked the idea of trying to land three 2nd round picks to get solid players. Ozzie's recent track record with second rounders have been looking good except for 2010, where we missed out on talent and got busts instead.

Ozzie's 2nd Rounders of late:
Ray Rice - Pro Bowler
Paul Kruger - Breakout Player
Sergio kindle - Bust
Terrence Cody - Headcase turning into a bust
Torrey Smith - Starting WR
Courtney Upshaw - Value pick, but what's his potential?
Kelechi Osemele - Solid Starter

Edited by Corvus Amplus, 12 January 2013 - 07:39 AM.