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[News] Offensive Line Responds To Criticism

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The offensive line had one of its best games of the season in the win over the Giants.

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the only reason why they dont want to play Mckennie is because his contract states that if he plays for more then 30% i believe (I could be wrong) he will get payed the amount his old contract was, but since he hasnt played any games hopefully they decide to start him in our way to the Superbowl
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The Oline and Dline will be the Key to our Success in the post season, good luck Men we need you to step it up even more ad get 10% better against the bungles and 10% better in game 1
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]It was nice to actually see Joe with a clean jersey after a game. The O-Line seems to have figured it out. The running game looked fantastic and Caldwell's play calling helped not only Joe's stats, but really helped get them into rhythm.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Just need to keep things going on the offensive side and the defense should be able to pin their ears back and come after everybody in the post-season.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]No more "taking the foot off the accelerator" from here on out.[/i][/font]
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They had 1 good game out of the past 5. Now they need to put up or shut up.

Get the streak going and lets reverse the fortune O-line!
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We will need McKinnie to make a SuperBowl run! Dog house or not! If not just look forward to another heart breaking strip sack fumble from Joe.
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I know this has already been debated and discussed but I want to see Oher back at his natural RT position, McKinnie coming out of his 'doghouse' to play LT and Bobbie Williams to play left guard.
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I will believe in the O Line fully, in whatever formation and positions they want to line up in, if they allow no sacks against the Bengals... that will be a good litmus test for our O-line heading into the post season....

I really think Oher is a very good player but is having confidence issues right now. But, I don't think putting McKinnie in at this point in the season is going to help us at all! He is presumably out of shape and is not very agile against really quick pass rushers. So, I say we maintain the line as is and hopefully they are really as good as they showed against the Giants.... water eventually reaches the right level. We'll find out before the first playoff game against Freeney and Mathis!
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[quote name='D3x3001' timestamp='1356634766' post='1280231']
I know this has already been debated and discussed but I want to see Oher back at his natural RT position, McKinnie coming out of his 'doghouse' to play LT and Bobbie Williams to play left guard.
[/quote]What makes you so sure that RT is Oher's natural position? How come the coaches seem to think otherwise? He has played LT all through his career in college and has played LT for well over 2-3 yrs in pro-football! If the coaches think that he is best suited to be RT, they would have put him there, don't you think?
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The o-line is too often graded by sacks allowed. That to me is just a by-product of what the real test is and that is how well we RUN BLOCK. Yanda is the centerpiece to our run game, so you can consider him to be one of the most critical players on the team. If we run block well, we're able to play our game and the pass game falls into place.

As long as Yanda is a go, I like our chances against any team whose run defense is shaky. Those are teams we should dominate. Indy's D is #30. Cincy is #8. I know I've said I don't care who we play, but that stat would indicate Indy would be a better matchup.
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[quote name='The Voice' timestamp='1356634710' post='1280229']
We will need McKinnie to make a SuperBowl run! Dog house or not! If not just look forward to another heart breaking strip sack fumble from Joe.
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I just don't see McKinnie breaking into the starting group. Even when Yanda went down, McKinnie stayed on the sidelines.

As far as the "dog house" goes - I do think there are reasons why coaches have them. They need to have control and anyone who challenges that control threatens anarchy. You don't need the inmates running the asylum. That just doesn't work.

That being said, I think Harbaugh has long since made his point to Bryant and the only reason we're not seeing him on the field is based on what the coaches are seeing out of him in practice as it relates to his performance. If they felt he gave us a better chance to win, he'd be on the field - I guarantee it. So I think we just have to realize that McKinnie simply isn't what we dream he could be.
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Was that really the best picture you could find to show how good the o-line did? lol I'm still proud of you guys, just keep it up!
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[quote name='a 31fan' timestamp='1356635640' post='1280249']
Was that really the best picture you could find to show how good the o-line did? lol I'm still proud of you guys, just keep it up!
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That's the only picture they could find with Matt Birk blocking a top D-lineman
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I don't see how we can continue to kid ourselves thinking Oher is a good left tackle, he is barely serviceable and as popular as he is, after getting the majority of fan votes for his position the players and coaches said no, he is not good, just a show tackle, and he was out. Is it that the front office or coaches just can't accept that a player is not that good and regardless of the stats, facts, and video proof he sucks they just have a gut feeling. I know with his story it is hard, but he is a right guard not a left guard, never was, never will be. Three penalties in a row and we still scored in spite of him not because of hm.
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O-Line, To me it's pure execution! Look closely at the picture above. Jah is out of position, he should be peeled back even with Birk to close the lane to the left of Birk. This helps prevent Birks man from moving to his right and running around Birk. Marshall is properly positioned on the other side. Jah does not have a man on this play and seems to be out in left field daydreaming!
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I noticed that they still did not mention a few of the big penalties by our LT. I know Joe and our receivers stepped up and kept that drive alive but when are those false starts going to stop and that chop block looked dangerous.
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One thing that can definitely help an O line is better play calling from the OC. That was demonstrated quite well last week against a solid but obviously demoralized team.The opposing D must always be expecting the unexpected.Caldwell did a great job last game and let's hope it continues.BTW.... N.Turner gave an interview yesterday and indicated that if (when) he get's bounced he will be open to taking a OC position if offered.Stay tuned.
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Posted · Hidden by Moderator 3, December 27, 2012 - way OT · Report post

Just thought everyone should see this. He will be a freshman at the U next year assuming he doesnt get redshirted. 4 or 5 more years and we may have our next Ray Lewis coming to Baltimore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYjmU4_Aa4
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@D3x3001 so I presume you don,t like Kelechi Osemele in the starting lineup, surely he has his faults but truthfully the guy is a young stud if anything and granted the oline were to ever get altered again I would just slide KO down to Left Guard, moving Oher to RT etc etc. Regarding Michael Oher he like JO said is a very good LT, not a great one. He shows flashes of dominance, yet falters in other spots. Nonetheless the guy can play, get off his back people!
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[quote name='NaveSenrag' timestamp='1356637630' post='1280277']
Am I the only one who saw Flacco get sacked on 3rd and goal from the 1? Did that not count as a sack or something?
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It didn't count as a sack because it was a designed QB run. He did a play action, then tucked the ball and ran towards the goal line. Unfortunately it failed, but that's beside the point.
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Two things in response to things people have said:

1) Stop beating the McKinnie drum. Barring massive injuries, he will not play apart from the jumbo package. If the Ravens staff thought we would be a better team with him playing, he's be in there. Get over it.

2) Michael Oher gets no respect. I've said this before and I will repeat it. He is the best overall left tackle that we currently have on the roster. Yeah, if we had Jake Long on our team, Oher would be playing right tackle. But we do not. Should the Ravens look for a left tackle in FA or in the draft? I believe they should. But for now, it's Oher. BTW, the chop block penalty was bogus - look carefully at the film - the defender was NOT engaged with another blocker at the time Oher went low. This would make what he did perfectly legal.

Just saying. People post all the time and really do not have a clue.
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Unless we find a "diamond-in-the-rough" we're relegated to picking Michael Ohers as long as we're drafting in the late, late 20s or 30s!

We'd have to give up some stuff to get high enough for a Jake Long, or hope nobody else sees guys in the 2nd, 3rd and later rounds!

So, we just gotta coach these K.Os up or keep going out for McKinnies! :(
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21158bob????

You say get over not playing McKinnie and then right after that say that we should look for another T ? If McKinnie was on the FA market... he would be near the top of the list of T that teams may want.

THat being said... we dont really need to look elsewhere... we have him here... we just need to be wlling to insert him. Not even all the time... but enough to keep that fire lit in OHER..

plus wouldnt mind seeing a little more of McKINNIE in short yardage situations...not just jumbo packages in Goaline!

Agreed OHER is our starter and will have more of a future with us then McKINNIE but that does not mean that we shouldnt ustilize any asset that we have a little more (INCLUDING McKINNIE)?

a little bit of short yardage work and we atleast get something out of the investment... right now he is just a pricey insurance policy!
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[quote name='livelong' timestamp='1356638882' post='1280297']
It didn't count as a sack because it was a designed QB run. He did a play action, then tucked the ball and ran towards the goal line. Unfortunately it failed, but that's beside the point.
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Thanks. It just looked like a failed play action when I was watching, and there wasn't a replay.
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steelcityraven - I respect your opinion, but I guess we disagree on the value of McKinnie on the FA market. We'll see at the end of the year because I believe he will not be here...
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