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[gabefergy]

1. Chiefs -- Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
2. Jaguars -- Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
3. Eagles -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Raiders -- Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
5. Lions -- Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6. Titans --Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St.
7. Browns -- Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
8. Cardinals -- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
9. Panthers -- Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
10. Bucs -- Manti Te'o, ILB, ND
11. Jets -- Geno Smith, QB, WV
12. Bills -- Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
13. Dolphins --Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
14. Chargers -- Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
15. Rams -- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
16. Saints -- Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
17. Steelers -- Dion Lewis, DE, Oregon
18. Giants -- Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St.
19. Vikings -- Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
20. Rams (from Skins) -- Justin Hunter, WR, Tenn
21. Bengals -- Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
22. Cowboys -- Jonathan Cooper, OG, NC
23. Colts -- Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
24. Bears -- Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
25. Niners -- Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas
26. Broncos -- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
27. Texans -- Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
28. Falcons -- Tyler Eifert, TE, ND
29. Pats -- TJ McDonald, Safety, USC
30. Seahawks -- Tavon Austin, WR, WV
31. Packers -- Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
32. Ravens -- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Ravens Draft:

1st Round: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan -- Fisher is an athletic tackle with elite size. He displays very agile feet and a strong punch. He moves well in the run game and gets to the next level. His drawbacks are that he is on the lighter side, weighing in at about 300 lbs. He will need to put on some weight, but he has all the tools to be an NFL LT.

2nd Round: Arthur Brown, LB, KSU -- Brown is a bit undersized, but he certainly doesnt play like it. He plays sideline to sideline and is a physical tackler. He also shows a special ability to take on and shed blockers, which is somewhat remarkable considering his size. A tremendous athlete, Brown will bring another level of speed to the Ravens LB corps.

3rd Round: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA -- Jones is a bit undersized to play a true 5-tech, but I think he can put on some weight and be a dominant player. UCLA lined him up all over the Dline including NT at some points. He is stout against the run and shows the ability to get off blocks and penetrate into the backfield.

4th Round: Tony Jefferson, Safety, Oklahoma -- Jefferson is also a bit undersized, so I think he could slip a bit compared to some of the bigger athletes at the position. However, his size does not take away from his ability to hit or cover.

4th Round (Comp): Da'Rick Rogers -- Great combination of size and speed, Rogers was a potential 1st rounder before running into some off the field problems. His stock will likely plummet due to this. If he slips this far, he is definitely worth the gamble.

5th Round: Michael Williams, TE, Bama -- Gotta get a Bama boy in this draft, and Williams is exactly what we need - a big strong, blocking TE that is also capable of making some plays in the passing game.

5th Round (Comp): Gabe Jackson, OG, Miss St. -- Good size, very capable run-blocker with upside. And he has a great name!

6th Round: Kenny Tate, OLB, MD -- Tate is an OLB that was converted from safety. He would give us more speed and versatility in sub-packages. Plus I like local products =)

7th Round: Sheldon Price, CB, UCLA -- Price has had his ups and downs this year, but he has raw talent. With the proper coaching I think he can be a good CB in the NFL. UCLA has produced some nice DBs and Price or perhaps his fellow CB Aaron Hester would be a nice pick-up late in the draft.

[Sizzlebshu]

1. Chiefs -- Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
2. Jaguars -- Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
3. Eagles -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Raiders -- Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
5. Lions -- Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6. Titans --Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St.
7. Browns -- Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
8. Cardinals -- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
9. Panthers -- Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
10. Bucs -- Manti Te'o, ILB, ND
11. Jets -- Geno Smith, QB, WV
12. Bills -- Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
13. Dolphins --Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
14. Chargers -- Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
15. Rams -- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
16. Saints -- Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
17. Steelers -- Dion Lewis, DE, Oregon
18. Giants -- Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St.
19. Vikings -- Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
20. Rams (from Skins) -- Justin Hunter, WR, Tenn
21. Bengals -- Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
22. Cowboys -- Jonathan Cooper, OG, NC
23. Colts -- Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
24. Bears -- Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
25. Niners -- Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas
26. Broncos -- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
27. Texans -- Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
28. Falcons -- Tyler Eifert, TE, ND
29. Pats -- TJ McDonald, Safety, USC
30. Seahawks -- Tavon Austin, WR, WV
31. Packers -- Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
32. Ravens -- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Ravens Draft:

1st Round: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan -- Fisher is an athletic tackle with elite size. He displays very agile feet and a strong punch. He moves well in the run game and gets to the next level. His drawbacks are that he is on the lighter side, weighing in at about 300 lbs. He will need to put on some weight, but he has all the tools to be an NFL LT.

2nd Round: Arthur Brown, LB, KSU -- Brown is a bit undersized, but he certainly doesnt play like it. He plays sideline to sideline and is a physical tackler. He also shows a special ability to take on and shed blockers, which is somewhat remarkable considering his size. A tremendous athlete, Brown will bring another level of speed to the Ravens LB corps.

3rd Round: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA -- Jones is a bit undersized to play a true 5-tech, but I think he can put on some weight and be a dominant player. UCLA lined him up all over the Dline including NT at some points. He is stout against the run and shows the ability to get off blocks and penetrate into the backfield.

4th Round: Tony Jefferson, Safety, Oklahoma -- Jefferson is also a bit undersized, so I think he could slip a bit compared to some of the bigger athletes at the position. However, his size does not take away from his ability to hit or cover.

4th Round (Comp): Da'Rick Rogers -- Great combination of size and speed, Rogers was a potential 1st rounder before running into some off the field problems. His stock will likely plummet due to this. If he slips this far, he is definitely worth the gamble.

5th Round: Michael Williams, TE, Bama -- Gotta get a Bama boy in this draft, and Williams is exactly what we need - a big strong, blocking TE that is also capable of making some plays in the passing game.

5th Round (Comp): Gabe Jackson, OG, Miss St. -- Good size, very capable run-blocker with upside. And he has a great name!

6th Round: Kenny Tate, OLB, MD -- Tate is an OLB that was converted from safety. He would give us more speed and versatility in sub-packages. Plus I like local products =)

7th Round: Sheldon Price, CB, UCLA -- Price has had his ups and downs this year, but he has raw talent. With the proper coaching I think he can be a good CB in the NFL. UCLA has produced some nice DBs and Price or perhaps his fellow CB Aaron Hester would be a nice pick-up late in the draft.

A couple of things

While Star would be a great number one overall pick, I'm not sure the cheifs go for him after investing in Dontari Poe last year. He is the best player on the board imho, I just cant see it working without them switching to a 4-3 which they could do with crennel gone.

Likewise I think the Lions hit their secondary instead of their linebacking core as CB is a much more pressing need.

I dont see the Rams taking a wideout in the first round with either pick just because of the fact they spent a high pick on Brian Quick. They also have many young wide outs i Givens Amendola Quick etc....

Given how weak this draft is at QB, I see the Jets passing on Geno and letting him fall to the Bills who will select him.

Bucs front office is almost all but guaranteed to try and grab a corner and I feel like Teo will go to the Browns but should he fall I could see him going to the Jets.

No love for barrett jones?

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 26 December 2012 - 11:53 PM.

[gabefergy]

A couple of things

While Star would be a great number one overall pick, I'm not sure the cheifs go for him after investing in Dontari Poe last year. He is the best player on the board imho, I just cant see it working without them switching to a 4-3 which they could do with crennel gone.

Likewise I think the Lions hit their secondary instead of their linebacking core as CB is a much more pressing need.

I dont see the Rams taking a wideout in the first round with either pick just because of the fact they spent a high pick on Brian Quick. They also have many young wide outs i Givens Amendola Quick etc....

Given how weak this draft is at QB, I see the Jets passing on Geno and letting him fall to the Bills who will select him.

No love for barrett jones?

I think Star is the best player on the board and he can play the 5 tech too in KC's front.

As for the Lions, they definitely need a CB, but they really need pretty much everything on D. I think they have something like 8 FA starters. Jones is the BPA available and would be a great fit IMO, especially with Avril possibly on the way out and Vanden Bosch getting up there in age.

I didnt really know where to go with the Rams 2nd pick, but I think WR is a possibility because they want to surround Bradford with more weapons. Amendola is a FA so with him potentially leaving, Givens could slide into the slot. Gibson is not very good and while I like Quick, I think Hunter would already be a more polished player.

I think the "weakness" of this year's QB draft has been overblown. Maybe they arent at the same level as RG3 and Luck, but there are some talented QBs in this draft. Geno Smith possesses all the attributes you like to see in an NFL QB. He has a strong, accurate arm, good eye level, and underrated movement skills in the pocket. I like him and Wilson both as top 15 talents.

I've never been a fan of Barrett Jones. His versatility is nice, but I dont see him as a first round talent.

Edited by gabefergy, 27 December 2012 - 01:40 AM.

[Bravens292]

i like Fisher and theres a number of places you can go with the oline but i think he would be a good choice. i'll have a better opinion on him watching him in the senior bowl though. really hasn't faced anybody of notice other than william gholston and hes been terrible this year anyway.

i will wait to decide on Arthur Brown being a good choice based on if he chooses to add weight or not. if he doesn't, i would then consider him an OLB prospect and we don't need one.

You really shocked me with jefferson in the 4th round. i don't think he falls that far. i'm not his biggest fan but i still see him in the late 2nd-early 3rd.

[CalvinSmoke]

I played with Tony Jefferson in high shool, i can vouch for the fact that he can hit with ANYBODY. Sometimes a bit of a knuckle head but if the Ravens can keep him focused, he'd be a hell of a player here.

[gabefergy]

i like Fisher and theres a number of places you can go with the oline but i think he would be a good choice. i'll have a better opinion on him watching him in the senior bowl though. really hasn't faced anybody of notice other than william gholston and hes been terrible this year anyway.

i will wait to decide on Arthur Brown being a good choice based on if he chooses to add weight or not. if he doesn't, i would then consider him an OLB prospect and we don't need one.

You really shocked me with jefferson in the 4th round. i don't think he falls that far. i'm not his biggest fan but i still see him in the late 2nd-early 3rd.

I dont think Brown needs to add weight at all. He isnt a big LB, but he plays with speed and power. Maybe he can add 5 lbs to get up to the 235-240 range, but if he put on much weight it would slow him down which is a big negative. We need more speed and athleticism at LB and he brings that in spades.

As for Jefferson I have him rated as the 8th or 9th best safety in this class. It just happens to be a very deep class which helps us out a lot. I would rank the safeties Vaccaro, McDonald, Elam, Reid, Thomas, Rambo, Lester, Williams, then Jefferson. There are a couple underlcassmen who may not declare so it could definitely change.

[Sizzlebshu]

I think Star is the best player on the board and he can play the 5 tech too in KC's front.

As for the Lions, they definitely need a CB, but they really need pretty much everything on D. I think they have something like 8 FA starters. Jones is the BPA available and would be a great fit IMO, especially with Avril possibly on the way out and Vanden Bosch getting up there in age.

I didnt really know where to go with the Rams 2nd pick, but I think WR is a possibility because they want to surround Bradford with more weapons. Amendola is a FA so with him potentially leaving, Givens could slide into the slot. Gibson is not very good and while I like Quick, I think Allen would already be a more polished player.

I think the "weakness" of this year's QB draft has been overblown. Maybe they arent at the same level as RG3 and Luck, but there are some talented QBs in this draft. Geno Smith possesses all the attributes you like to see in an NFL QB. He has a strong, accurate arm, good eye level, and underrated movement skills in the pocket. I like him and Wilson both as top 15 talents.

I've never been a fan of Barrett Jones. His versatility is nice, but I dont see him as a first round talent.

Hey and im just spitt ballin here, but how about they hit the o line again and take Barrett Jones. His versatility is what makes him a first round talent imo. If he can play all four spots in the nfl at an average level coming in, that would be phenomenal. Its essentially four lottery tickets for the price of one.

The rams are fairly set everywhere except maybe at S or and OLB imho so they could go there too but i think they are fairly good on D as it is.

As for the QB class, clearly its not as strong as last year, but go back two years and look at your quarterbacks and you have two decent ones out of that draft in Cam and Dalton with Dalton not being an exceptional passer but good enough.

Geno Smith looks good, but I wouldnt take him before the 16th pick ie half the draft. I dont like Wilson or Barkely too much. The reason I say this is that taking a qb is the biggest investment a team can make. You are stuck with this guy for at least 3 years more likely four years. You will use a first rounder on said qb most of the time and end up paying him a lot of money. So if I am going to take a qb in the draft, I have to ask myself would I take him if I were picking first overall. If the answer is no then I wouldnt take him. At least not until the benefit outweighs the investment ie when he is the BPA on the board.

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 27 December 2012 - 12:40 AM.

[arnie_uk]

I know what your doing here, but do you really think the chiefs won't take a QB at one? Aren't they just that desperate? A good run team won't because the qbs are probably mid 20s talent wise, but they need one, badly.

[Dubs]

As for Jefferson I have him rated as the 8th or 9th best safety in this class. It just happens to be a very deep class which helps us out a lot. I would rank the safeties Vaccaro, McDonald, Elam, Reid, Thomas, Rambo, Lester, Williams, then Jefferson. There are a couple underlcassmen who may not declare so it could definitely change.

Interesting, I have Jefferson at the top of my list. He has been a great player on the Sooners defense this year, has a ton of starting experience and he has the ability of an Eric Berry or Ed Reed type. For me his value is in the first, the depth may push him as teams may prefer a bigger guy, but for our team I would expect that we would rate him above McDonald and Lester for sure - you could debate the others but I would rank him at the top or very near

Also love the Eric Fischer pick, I think he is a stud at LT and really hope he drops due to Lewan, Jockel and Matthews (if they all come out). Again big fan of Arthur Brown, as you said he plays with a fire and passion that doesnt do justice to his size/speed/weight that we will see at the combine

Edited by Dubs, 27 December 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[Defence_Is_Salvation]

I like the mock. But as with everyone...swap Jefferson for Rambo, who probably won't fall that far anyway.

I'm gonna be a little cutters (understatement) if we don't get a safety this draft. However, I don't want Reid or Elam, or just any SS type.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

1. Chiefs -- Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
2. Jaguars -- Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
3. Eagles -- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Raiders -- Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
5. Lions -- Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6. Titans --Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St.
7. Browns -- Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
8. Cardinals -- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
9. Panthers -- Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
10. Bucs -- Manti Te'o, ILB, ND
11. Jets -- Geno Smith, QB, WV
12. Bills -- Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
13. Dolphins --Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
14. Chargers -- Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
15. Rams -- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
16. Saints -- Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
17. Steelers -- Dion Lewis, DE, Oregon
18. Giants -- Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St.
19. Vikings -- Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
20. Rams (from Skins) -- Justin Hunter, WR, Tenn
21. Bengals -- Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
22. Cowboys -- Jonathan Cooper, OG, NC
23. Colts -- Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
24. Bears -- Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
25. Niners -- Kenny Vaccaro, Safety, Texas
26. Broncos -- Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
27. Texans -- Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
28. Falcons -- Tyler Eifert, TE, ND
29. Pats -- TJ McDonald, Safety, USC
30. Seahawks -- Tavon Austin, WR, WV
31. Packers -- Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
32. Ravens -- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Ravens Draft:

1st Round: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan -- Fisher is an athletic tackle with elite size. He displays very agile feet and a strong punch. He moves well in the run game and gets to the next level. His drawbacks are that he is on the lighter side, weighing in at about 300 lbs. He will need to put on some weight, but he has all the tools to be an NFL LT.

2nd Round: Arthur Brown, LB, KSU -- Brown is a bit undersized, but he certainly doesnt play like it. He plays sideline to sideline and is a physical tackler. He also shows a special ability to take on and shed blockers, which is somewhat remarkable considering his size. A tremendous athlete, Brown will bring another level of speed to the Ravens LB corps.

3rd Round: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA -- Jones is a bit undersized to play a true 5-tech, but I think he can put on some weight and be a dominant player. UCLA lined him up all over the Dline including NT at some points. He is stout against the run and shows the ability to get off blocks and penetrate into the backfield.

4th Round: Tony Jefferson, Safety, Oklahoma -- Jefferson is also a bit undersized, so I think he could slip a bit compared to some of the bigger athletes at the position. However, his size does not take away from his ability to hit or cover.

4th Round (Comp): Da'Rick Rogers -- Great combination of size and speed, Rogers was a potential 1st rounder before running into some off the field problems. His stock will likely plummet due to this. If he slips this far, he is definitely worth the gamble.

5th Round: Michael Williams, TE, Bama -- Gotta get a Bama boy in this draft, and Williams is exactly what we need - a big strong, blocking TE that is also capable of making some plays in the passing game.

5th Round (Comp): Gabe Jackson, OG, Miss St. -- Good size, very capable run-blocker with upside. And he has a great name!

6th Round: Kenny Tate, OLB, MD -- Tate is an OLB that was converted from safety. He would give us more speed and versatility in sub-packages. Plus I like local products =)

7th Round: Sheldon Price, CB, UCLA -- Price has had his ups and downs this year, but he has raw talent. With the proper coaching I think he can be a good CB in the NFL. UCLA has produced some nice DBs and Price or perhaps his fellow CB Aaron Hester would be a nice pick-up late in the draft.

How in gods name do you have Price? He made me want to kill myself at times....
Other than this, I say it was a very good mock.

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How in gods name do you have Price? He made me want to kill myself at times....
Other than this, I say it was a very good mock.

Haha kind of like Jeff Baca?

Price is long, rangy, and athletic. He actually reminds me a lot of Cary. Give him a couple years of coaching on the PS and he can be a serviceable corner in the NFL.

[gabefergy]

I like the mock. But as with everyone...swap Jefferson for Rambo, who probably won't fall that far anyway.

I'm gonna be a little cutters (understatement) if we don't get a safety this draft. However, I don't want Reid or Elam, or just any SS type.

I wouldnt mind Rambo at all, but I think he will be drafted higher. His teammate Shawn Williams is a possibility here too. Reid should go pretty high and I'm not sure he is strictly a strong safety. He has very good coverage and ball skills as well. I went with Jefferson because I feel his size will make him fall especially with such a deep safety class that has a lot of bigger prospects. He is about the same size as Elam, but Elam is much more of a playmaker IMO.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Haha kind of like Jeff Baca?

Price is long, rangy, and athletic. He actually reminds me a lot of Cary. Give him a couple years of coaching on the PS and he can be a serviceable corner in the NFL.

We gonna kill Baylor! Baca can be coached up.... But his penalties sucked.....

[Defence_Is_Salvation]

I wouldnt mind Rambo at all, but I think he will be drafted higher. His teammate Shawn Williams is a possibility here too. Reid should go pretty high and I'm not sure he is strictly a strong safety. He has very good coverage and ball skills as well. I went with Jefferson because I feel his size will make him fall especially with such a deep safety class that has a lot of bigger prospects. He is about the same size as Elam, but Elam is much more of a playmaker IMO.

Yeah I didn't mean Reid was a SS but I CBF to structure the sentence right. Earl Thomas is smaller than Jefferson so I wouldn't hold it against him. But if we are bulk lucky ... Omar Brown pans out as a solid safety.

[Sizzlebshu]

Haha kind of like Jeff Baca?

Price is long, rangy, and athletic. He actually reminds me a lot of Cary. Give him a couple years of coaching on the PS and he can be a serviceable corner in the NFL.

Oh god no. We dont even want the Cary we already have why would we want Cary lite?

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 27 December 2012 - 04:15 PM.

[gabefergy]

Oh god no. We dont even want the Cary we already have why would we want Cary lite?

I think Cary is fine as a 3rd or 4th corner. He shouldnt be starting, but thats a whole other issue.

[Defence_Is_Salvation]

Oh god no. We dont even want the Cary we already have why would we want Cary lite?

This! This! Haha. Good call.

[Inqui]

Just on your first round, I don't think the Eagles will take Joeckel or any LT in the draft. Their o-line isn't too bad, but injuries have forced them to start fielding the training cones and water boys to protect Nick Foles.

I could see them going for Te'o. They need someone who can stop the run, as well as someone with his work ethic. Failing that, I don't see him slipping past the Raiders, who'd love the defensive leader and new poster boy for all the Pacific Islanders living in the area (I'm not saying that to be racist: if there were a kiwi in the NFL I'd start worshipping them).

[Miami Hurricane]

We gonna kill Baylor! Baca can be coached up.... But his penalties sucked.....

killing Baylor didn't quite work out lol