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POLL: Are the Ravens Super Bowl Contenders?

Who are the formidable contenders?   87 members have voted

  1. 1. Who of these are formidable contenders to win Super Bowl XLVII?

    • Houston Texans
      33
    • Atlanta Falcons
      28
    • Denver Broncos
      65
    • Green Bay Packers
      45
    • San Francisco 49ers
      35
    • Baltimore Ravens
      57
    • Seattle Seahawks
      35
    • New England Patriots
      47
    • Dallas Cowboys
      7
    • Cincinnati Bengals
      6
    • Washington Redskins
      7
    • Chicago Bears
      5
    • Indianapolis Colts
      4
    • Minnesota Vikings
      3
    • New York Giants
      4

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I think that with Pollard and Ellerbe, the Ravens are the best team in the AFC.

What many people overlook is not that Cam was fired after a 2-game losing streak, but that the losing streak followed a four-game win streak that included three road wins.

Ultimately, I look at how a team's played lately and the quality and balance of a roster first - the number of playmakers, how many are in their prime - before going into coaching.

In my opinion, the Ravens are the most talented team and their lack of coaching is made up for by their talent and in their urgency and physicality.

This isn't only a thread discussing who the BEST TEAM is, but - to a lesser extent - what their road looks like.

Round 1 is a favorable match-up for the Ravens who just got 100-yard rushing games from Ray and Bernard Pierce (the Colts have allowed 135+ in 4 of last 5, have 5 DL on IR, and just allowed 352 rushing yards to the Chiefs). Mountain air is a favorable match-up for the Broncos.

So, here it is. These are the teams I think have the best chance to win Super Bowl XLVII.

1. Ravens: Already explained.

2. Broncos: I give them the edge over the Patriots, slightly, because they can beat you more ways on offense, and have - this year - slightly better balance and depth on defense.

3. Patriots: They have a great short-area passing game, and they use tempo and quick cuts by RBs, Welker and Hernandez to their advantage. With Gronk back, it will be hard to out-score them.

4. Packers: In my opinion, the Packers ask Rodgers to do about 4.5 times what the Patriots ask Brady to do, and he continually delivers (though he is in his 8th season whilst Brady is in his 13th). Their defense has enough playmakers and a good play-caller in Capers to make some big sacks and turnovers.

That is tier one. I think the Cowboys and Texans are alone in tier 2. I think Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan is a slightly better combination than Kubiak and Wade Phillips (too stupid and predictable) that - if DT Jay Ratliff is back - they have the next best chance.
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No offense Prestige, but your poll has nothing to do with your topic title. You ask if the Ravens are Super Bowl contenders, and it shows on the main page that it's a poll so one would assume it's a 'Yes' or 'No' question and yet when I get in I'm greeted with a whole bunch of other team names and a poll that has nothing to do with the question. So to answer your topic title, yes of course the Ravens are Super Bowl contenders. As far as your poll goes, you might as well check every one of them because they all have the potential. It's football, and this is the most exciting sport in the world because even the most horrible looking team (like the Giants) have a chance.
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[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1356581876' post='1279836']
every team in the playoffs are super bowl contenders! those that are not...are not! lol!

~Mili
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This!
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[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1356581876' post='1279836']
every team in the playoffs are super bowl contenders! those that are not...are not! lol!

~Mili
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I dont agree. Just because you make the playoffs does not make you a contender! Colts, Bengals, Bears...they are all one and done. Mark my words. I'll bet the Texans and Falcons lose in their first game as well.

Just look at the results of the poll and you will see what I mean...I think it is pretty accurate representation.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356588794' post='1279901']
I dont agree. Just because you make the playoffs does not make you a contender! Colts, Bengals, Bears...they are all one and done. Mark my words. I'll bet the Texans and Falcons lose in their first game as well.

Just look at the results of the poll and you will see what I mean...I think it is pretty accurate representation.
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Three words.... Seahawks vs. Saints...[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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[quote name='CosmicRedPanda' timestamp='1356589168' post='1279904']
[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Three words.... Seahawks vs. Saints...[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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Yeah, and how far did the Seahawks go?
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356589227' post='1279905']
Yeah, and how far did the Seahawks go?
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]They still won. I get what you're saying though. But I find it hard to discount anyone in the post-season. As the old saying goes, "In the post-season, every team is 0-0."[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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[quote name='CosmicRedPanda' timestamp='1356589547' post='1279906']
[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]They still won. I get what you're saying though. But I find it hard to discount anyone in the post-season. As the old saying goes, "In the post-season, every team is 0-0."[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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That's definitely true, but the way I see it some teams just have what it takes while others do not.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356589914' post='1279909']
That's definitely true, but the way I see it some teams just have what it takes while others do not.
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Kind of like the Falcons. They've got all the talent in the world and yet, somehow, they just fizzle out in the playoffs.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]I've actually done a study on that though. Why the Falcons stink it up in the playoffs.. just look at their division. They're a "pass happy" division with poor opposing defenses and even poorer secondaries. So, in the playoffs, they hit a team with a stout D and they crumble.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Yeah... If we come out like last week, we should be OK. Biggest AFC threat, Denver. Biggest NFC threat, Green Bay.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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[quote name='CosmicRedPanda' timestamp='1356590160' post='1279910']
[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Kind of like the Falcons. They've got all the talent in the world and yet, somehow, they just fizzle out in the playoffs.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]I've actually done a study on that though. Why the Falcons stink it up in the playoffs.. just look at their division. They're a "pass happy" division with poor opposing defenses and even poorer secondaries. So, in the playoffs, they hit a team with a stout D and they crumble.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Yeah... If we come out like last week, we should be OK. Biggest AFC threat, Denver. Biggest NFC threat, Green Bay.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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I completely agree. I'm hoping NE can take care of Denver for us. I have us making it to the SB playing the Packers.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356590880' post='1279916']
I completely agree. I'm hoping NE can take care of Denver for us. I have us making it to the SB playing the Packers.
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]I've been waiting to see that Super Bowl for three years now... would love for it to happen. I've got a Packers-fan for a co-worker, he would max out his credit card just to get he & I tickets. He's as big on the Pack as I am on the Flock.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Now, if I could just get me a Ravens' Maryland license plate here in Indiana. :([/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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Are the Ravens contenders? Sure they made it to the play-offs, and enough has been said on their legitimacy already.

The game I'm worried about the most right now is that first wild card. I know people want to look ahead to the title game, or the Super Bowl. But if we do that then we may overlook an inspired Indy team with an outstanding rookie QB.

Seems like people are all too happy to draw Indy in that first round, and I have to wonder if that would be one of those pick your poison gone bad kind of deals. Pagano knows us well, and that team has been over-looked all season.
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[quote name='Dudeman' timestamp='1356591870' post='1279922']
Are the Ravens contenders? Sure they made it to the play-offs, and enough has been said on their legitimacy already.

The game I'm worried about the most right now is that first wild card. I know people want to look ahead to the title game, or the Super Bowl. But if we do that then we may overlook an inspired Indy team with an outstanding rookie QB.

Seems like people are all too happy to draw Indy in that first round, and I have to wonder if that would be one of those pick your poison gone bad kind of deals. Pagano knows us well, and that team has been over-looked all season.
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]As much love as I have for Chuck and what he did here, Indy would be best to leave Chuck out of it. They've done a great deal without him, just let it run it's course. If he wants to stand on the sidelines, so be it, but just let the coordinators and coaches do what they've done since he has been gone. They've got a good rhythm going.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42171653/BR.com/Sigs/00%20Cosmic%20Red%20Panda/00.gif[/img] Cosmic[/i][/font]
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[quote name='CosmicRedPanda' timestamp='1356592024' post='1279924']
[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]As much love as I have for Chuck and what he did here, Indy would be best to leave Chuck out of it. They've done a great deal without him, just let it run it's course. If he wants to stand on the sidelines, so be it, but just let the coordinators and coaches do what they've done since he has been gone. They've got a good rhythm going.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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Agreed. Arians has always been a good coach, and I have no idea what happened to his career in Pittsburgh. Could be he is Johnny on the spot with Rothlisberger and Luck as QBs to work with but I have a feeling there is a little more to it than that.

So yes, Pagano shouldn't try to over due it because of his condition anyways, but again I wonder if people shouldn't be more careful of what they wish for. Not that beating or playing Cincy three times a year is a walk in the park, and losing to them at home would be worse....but lets just leave it that I really don't want to be one and done. Not this year, and specifically because we have worked so hard the past 5 years to get back to the Super Bowl AND win it.

I will take that a step further, and put a vote in that the Ravens have the hardest working team in the NFL. Sure we are loaded with talent, but that talent is wasted without a strong work ethic.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356588794' post='1279901']
I dont agree. J[u][i][b]ust because you make the playoffs does not make you a contender![/b][/i][/u] Colts, Bengals, Bears...they are all one and done. Mark my words. I'll bet the Texans and Falcons lose in their first game as well.

Just look at the results of the poll and you will see what I mean...I think it is pretty accurate representation.
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then that must be based off of YOUR own definition and interpretation for the word [i][b]contender[/b][/i] which has its root in the word [i][b]contend[/b][/i]. contend meaning; [i]to struggle in opposition[/i]. it also means [i]to strive or to compete for something[/i]. therefore, as i mentioned....ONLY the remaining playoff teams have that ability at this point in the season to [i]"compete," "strive for," [/i]and to [i]"struggle in opposition" [/i]for the Superbowl. :D :D

~Mili
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Here's my take: any team can go all the way. Any given Sunday and all.

But there are some teams that are more likely to get three big-game wins in a row than others. Yeah, I think the Bengals or Colts could come up with an impressive win or two, but I wouldn't back them to make three. I really rate the Seahawks, but they're probably going to have to win three on the road, which I can't see happening.

With that in mind, I voted for the Texans, Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, 9ers, Packers and Bears (yes I do think they can make a run), Out of them, I actually think the Texans are the most likely to go one and done.
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I checked them all, b/c like many have said, anyone could win it. It all depends who is the healthiest and who gets hot at the right time. Regular season records don't matter anymore after week 17. The Giants were 9-7 and the 6th seed last year. Did anyone thing they would win it all? Nope, but they did, cause they got hot at the right time. Just like i hope we are with the win last week. We shall see.
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[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1356592331' post='1279927']
then that must be based off of YOUR own definition and interpretation for the word [i][b]contender[/b][/i] which has its root in the word [i][b]contend[/b][/i]. contend meaning; [i]to struggle in opposition[/i]. it also means [i]to strive or to compete for something[/i]. therefore, as i mentioned....ONLY the remaining playoff teams have that ability at this point in the season to [i]"compete," "strive for," [/i]and to [i]"struggle in opposition" [/i]for the Superbowl. :D :D

~Mili
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Yeah, pretty much. I have my own definition of a contender, and it goes as follows. Can a certain team, in my opinion, make it to and win the Super Bowl. Indianapolis, Cincinatti, Chicago...these teams all have major flaws and won't make it very far in the playoffs.

Indy has a bad defense. They have a negative point differential of 42 points even though they are 5 games over .500. They have a rookie QB who loves to throw INTs, especially on the road.

Chicago has an awful Oline and their offense struggles because of it. They have ridden an exceptional defense that has gotten some very fortuitous turnovers, but even their D is beginning to show its cracks.

Cincinatti has a great defense, but their offense is poor. Andy Dalton leaves a lot to be desired. If you can take away AJ Green they have nothing.

I can go on here, but I think you get the point. None of these teams are complete. They have flaws and it will be their undoing. Any team can win one game, but to stack together 3-4 wins against quality opposition is highly unlikely.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356594099' post='1279946']
Yeah, pretty much. I have my own definition of a contender, and it goes as follows. Can a certain team, in my opinion, make it to and win the Super Bowl. Indianapolis, Cincinatti, Chicago...these teams all have major flaws and won't make it very far in the playoffs.

Indy has a bad defense. They have a negative point differential of 42 points even though they are 5 games over .500. They have a rookie QB who loves to throw INTs, especially on the road.

Chicago has an awful Oline and their offense struggles because of it. They have ridden an exceptional defense that has gotten some very fortuitous turnovers, but even their D is beginning to show its cracks.

Cincinatti has a great defense, but their offense is poor. Andy Dalton leaves a lot to be desired. If you can take away AJ Green they have nothing.

I can go on here, but I think you get the point. None of these teams are complete. They have flaws and it will be their undoing. Any team can win one game, but to stack together 3-4 wins against quality opposition is highly unlikely.
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i know what you meant....just messing with ya brah! lol!

~Mili
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If the Ravens play like they played against the Giants, anything is possible. They looked like potential Super Bowl champs in that game for sure. Can they keep the momentum going?
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[quote name='ravenwildman' timestamp='1356583244' post='1279849']
Listen, trust me, the Ravens will win it all

GO RAVENS!
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Oh we'll in that case... Lol.
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Anyone in the postseason can win the Superbowl, but obviously some are more likely than others. I think Denver will be the ultimate test in the AFC. They are looking really good, and even though Manning has had issues in the past with the playoffs, I really think he'll outmatch Brady and the Patriots. I'm not sure if we can beat them or not. I think we'll beat the Colts, and we'll go down to Houston and win there. But I think the Broncos will beat the Patriots, and I just don't know about that one. So, AFC championship game again, I believe.

In the NFC, I think the Falcons and Packers will play in the NFC championship, with the Falcons winning. They are the hottest team in football right now, in my opinion.
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I can't sign off on either of the Colts, Redskins, or Seahawks as contenders - simply because I don't think a rookie quarterback can go all the way in the postseason. And I don't think a first year starter like Kapernick can do it either. Seems to me like the last time a first year starter went all the way was Brady in his first Superbowl - Roethlisberger was in his second year, Rodgers in his 3rd (and sat for 3 years before that), etc. In the coming years those four teams will be serious contenders, but every year for the last few, it seems like, there's a rookie quarterback or two who makes it to the postseason, then flames out in the playoffs i.e. Dalton last year. When it comes down to it, the last few Superbowls have been won by experienced quarterbacks i.e. the Mannings, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Brady, etc. and even their opponents, like Warner, had lots of experience. Aside from those 3, I'd say every other team on the list has a legitimate shot at winning it all.
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I see a ton of flaws with Houston, New England, Green Bay, Atlanta, and San Francisco. Honestly, right now, the teams that scare me the most are Washington, Seattle, and of course Denver.

I think Denver is the most likely to win it all this year. I think Baltimore's chances are at least good, if not greater than Houston, NE, GB, Atlanta, and SFO.

Nobody that I didn't mention is even remotely a possibility in my opinion.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1356588794' post='1279901']
I dont agree. Just because you make the playoffs does not make you a contender! Colts, Bengals, Bears...they are all one and done. Mark my words. I'll bet the Texans and Falcons lose in their first game as well.

Just look at the results of the poll and you will see what I mean...I think it is pretty accurate representation.
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I have to disagree. Nobody would have called the Giants a contender last year, but they backed into the playoffs and won the big game. If you're in the playoffs, you are a contender.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1356637165' post='1280267']


I have to disagree. Nobody would have called the Giants a contender last year, but they backed into the playoffs and won the big game. If you're in the playoffs, you are a contender.
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Yup. Odds in Vegas will show they're all contending.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1356637576' post='1280275']
Yup. Odds in Vegas will show they're all contending.
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Can never tell when you're being serious or sarcastic... lol
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