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[News] Joe Flacco Confident Contract Gets Done

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The fifth-year quarterback's rookie contract expires at the end of the season.

[url=http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Joe-Flacco-Confident-Contract-Gets-Done/652d1b59-e099-431e-8dc6-9a1fc4ca0bd9]View the full article[/url]
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Maybe it should be on his mind. I thought in the beginning of the season that playing in a contract year would be great for Flacco and our team as he would give it his all. That doesn't always seem to be the case. And maybe it's just me but he doesn't look very confident when things don't go his way. He seems to get shaken easily. I am hopeful for the next few games.
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the only positive thing I can say is at least the dude isn't mark sanchez and has some form of mental toughness. if you're capable of scoring 30 joe, i suggest you make good on that claim instead of losing heartbreakers to teams we should destroy (ie pitt, washington, philly)
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Confidence is a great thing to have...Hopefully Sunday he will have a ton of it.
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Flacco was asked how much of the offensive struggles he puts on himself.

[i]"As much as I can. All of it. [u][b]It starts with the quarterback," he said. "That's the position that's looked at[/b][/u] and [u][b]you have to go look at yourself and see [b]wh[/b]at you can do better [/b][/u]to make everybody else around you a little bit better."[/i]

^ really? lol! that sounds like something myself and others in here have been saying all along.

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Ravens fans are getting to get a bit ridiculous this year.

Yeah our team is on the down end right now , Because of injuries an key players fighting through injuries to play ( ngata , suggs , reed .. etc ) Dont say flacco isnt a good quaterback .. Those will be the first ones to say hes " elite " or " our " qb when he throws a good game this week.

Jus my opinion , we have alot holes in our O-Line , wish we could see some Mckinney , but we dont know what's going on behind closed doors.

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I would be confident to if Tyrod Taylor was my back up and no matter how well I play I know at the end of the year I'm getting a significant raise. Hopefully, he and Linta are more realistic this time around.
Life is good and can only get better.
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joe everybody remembers only the bad things which have happened, you can do your job perfectly for the whole game, and make an mistake and hear about it the rest of your career. well theres a lot of teams out there that would jump on you in a minute to get you, your coaches know it and biscotti knows it, hes not a stupid man, youll get the contract we the fans know it. youll get the contract for you to stay here in baltimore. so the news media just back up and lets look forward to whooping eli.
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he deserves it hasnt missed a game he put his entire heart on the field dont say he dont show emotion cause you dont know what you talking. fix oline he is great.

Ozzie newsome finally is realizing that he shouldve re-signed grubbs. Re-structure ray lewis contract just to keep grubbs here
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flacco doesnt deserve his long term deal tell ya y cam was fired and the main issues was coming from #5 that fumble on that qb sneak the big pick at the end of the 1st half u cant get brady peyton deals if u cant throw many many key word MANY tds time to move on ray lewis gettin too old y not get the best free agent might b little older but WHO CARES most of our team is on the blink of retirement LETS GO OZZIE bring a true hard worker that seems and SHOWS winning skills to bmore cuz flacco is NOT the answer
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[quote name='dweezy420' timestamp='1355949376' post='1270852']
Ravens fans are getting to get a bit ridiculous this year.

Yeah our team is on the down end right now , Because of injuries an key players fighting through injuries to play ( ngata , suggs , reed .. etc ) Dont say flacco isnt a good quaterback .. Those will be the first ones to say hes " elite " or " our " qb when he throws a good game this week.

Jus my opinion , we have alot holes in our O-Line , wish we could see some Mckinney , but we dont know what's going on behind closed doors.

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I hear you, but all the injuries you name are on the defensive side of the the ball. Why does our offense suck? Pittsburgh beat us with their 3rd string quarterback (we don't even have a thrid string QB). Washington beat us with their rookie back up after joe took the ball and went 3 and out in overtime.

We lost Grubbs because the front office made a good faith effort to sign Rice and Flacco. The rest of the O line is what it is. maybe Oher should be at RT, maybe Birk is done. Regardless, this is the same oline we've had all year. They are who they are and we should scheme better. Certainly Flacco should not be holding the ball or failing to count above 4 when the other defense is blitzing off the line.

There is no excuse or explanation for the offense to be this inept with so many starters playing, and there is no excuse for the coaching staff to be making the aggriegous mistakes they have been making over the last two weeks. Harbaugh's horrible challenges and the illegal substitution calls tell us all we need to know about what is happening inside the organization.

I would love to see them turn it around, but Flacco is not a leader and many in the locker room appear to have already checked out of the season. Its going to be downright laughable when Linta uses their 5th straight playoff appearance as a reason to pay Flacco 100 million dollars.
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O-Line definitely needs to be fixed, but I say let the season play out and compare some numbers. I'd keep Joe, but he's got to show his value.
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First, I'm not hatin' on Joe. After the bad smell in the air left behind by the Boller and last year of the McNair eras, it was refreshing to see usually competent QB play. HOWEVER, the ship has sailed and it's time to move on. Joe has shown NO improvement over his five years in key areas: accuracy, pocket awareness, and ball control. In fact, you can say he regressed in all of the above this year. I don't want to hear about dropped passes and poor OL play. Joe sails passes over receivers heads just as much as they drop them. His unwillingness to scramble out of the pocket, throw a ball away, or fumble after a bad sack just exacerbates the bad OL play. Boldin and the TE's have a hard time getting open because Linebackers know they don't have to hang around to cover Joe if the pocket collapses. He is what he his. At this point, he can't be coached up or will show any significant improvement. His ceiling is a poor man's Drew Bledsoe and we don't have the O-Line or the playmaking receivers to allow for that.

Bottom line, if we franchise Joe or sign him to a contract that he ultimately he does not deserve, it ties up what little cap space we have to address other more important issues: improving the Offensive and Defensive lines. There is no point in overpaying Joe if the O-line does not get any better. And we can not get into shoot-outs with more dynamic teams if the Defense keeps leaking oil and giving up 30 pts a game.

Supposedly there are no worth-while QBs on the free agent market or coming out of the draft. Or so they say. Russell Wilson was a 3rd Round Pick, so was Colin Kapernick. There is talent to be found. But beyond that, even if there aren't any viable options this year, let's spend a year seeing what Tyrod can do with a run-oriented game plan with a heavy dose of Rice, Pierce and Leach carrying the load. Let's get back to Raven football (run the ball, control the clock, play tough D and control field position with our special teams) and forget about becoming something that our roster is not put together to be.
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Evidently, he most be quite bitter thinking about it: he knows that he could have made a better deal with a new contract before the season...

Or, at least, so far he's been his own worst enemy...

A Super Bowl appearance can still save his case though.

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I would stick Joe with a first round tender and let him work out his inconsistencies next season in order to prove to us he can stop being hot and cold and just play well.
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[quote name='dweezy420' timestamp='1355949376' post='1270852']
Yeah our team is on the down end right now , Because of injuries an key players fighting through injuries to play ( ngata , suggs , reed .. etc ) [/quote]

One small remark: before last week's game, all of our key injuries were on the D: Webb, Suggs, Lewis, Ngata, Reed, Jimmy Smith, Ellerbe, etc... Every key memeber of the O was healthy. Yanda was the first improtant offensive player to get injured. So, while the D - and Pees - have the right to point at the injury list (though they never have), the O doesn't.

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[quote name='D3x3001' timestamp='1355950921' post='1270883']
I would stick Joe with a first round tender and let him work out his inconsistencies next season in order to prove to us he can stop being hot and cold and just play well.
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... and who would be your QB?

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"As much as I can. All of it. It starts with the quarterback," he said. "That's the position that's looked at and you have to go look at yourself and see what you can do better to make everybody else around you a little bit better."
HMM...wasn't some of us saying that Flacco never puts any blame on himself?
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Supposedly there are no worth-while QBs on the free agent market or coming out of the draft. Or so they say. Russell Wilson was a 3rd Round Pick, so was Colin Kapernick. There is talent to be found. But beyond that, even if there aren't any viable options this year, let's spend a year seeing what Tyrod can do with a run-oriented game plan with a heavy dose of Rice, Pierce and Leach carrying the load. Let's get back to Raven football (run the ball, control the clock, play tough D and control field position with our special teams) and forget about becoming something that our roster is not put together to be.

It's years too early to say anything about the success of Kaepernick and Wilson. I'm still betting that Wilson will be a career backup by his 3rd or 4th year. In a QB draft pool that even analysts say is incredibly weak, you are basically suggesting that we just guess at how the best 3rd round QB will be, and hope we get lucky. No good franchise drafts that way.

Two of the things you said are essentially unattainable with the current healthy roster we have. Playing tough D? Hard to do when half your starters (most of which are probowl caliber) have missed significant games. Also hard to do when their backups (our entire MLB core) are injured and missing games also.

Controlling time of possession? Again, almost impossible when the defense won't get off the field. While the Ravens are still among the better teams in the league in points allowed (ultimately the only thing that matters), giving up yardage effects time of possession. So we have a defense that can't stop the run (see no MLBs) and a defense that is struggling on third down.

We can run the ball every play, and we still won't dominate TOP with the way our defense is shaping up at the moment.
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[quote name='plb623' timestamp='1355949919' post='1270857']
joe everybody remembers only the bad things which have happened, you can do your job perfectly for the whole game, and make an mistake and hear about it the rest of your career. well theres a lot of teams out there that would jump on you in a minute to get you, your coaches know it and biscotti knows it, hes not a stupid man, youll get the contract we the fans know it. youll get the contract for you to stay here in baltimore. so the news media just back up and lets look forward to whooping eli.
[/quote]The same thing happens to Cary Williams. He's had a great year for us at CB but people only talk about his mistakes. And when he does have a great game people ignore it. Thats what I don't get about Raven fans. They give Flacco soooooo much slack and excuses but if its anybody else making the mistakes you want them out in a second.
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Joe is our man for the long haul. And he's a good quarterback. It would do well to remember that, Raven Nation.
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for all you flacco haters out there always remember it could be worst. we could still be using kyle boller, tony boom boom banks, elvis grbac, chris redman or whatever bum qbs we've had in the past. would yall want mark sanchez? just remember it could always be worst
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[quote name='camcameronmustgo' timestamp='1355952623' post='1270915']
for all you flacco haters out there always remember it could be worst. we could still be using kyle boller, tony boom boom banks, elvis grbac, chris redman or whatever bum qbs we've had in the past. would yall want mark sanchez? just remember it could always be worst
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Well, I guess the 43-year old Grbac or the 40 year-old Banks would be a bit of a reach :)

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[quote name='Berkeley_Raven' timestamp='1355952426' post='1270912']
I hope he doesn't drop the pen before signing.
[/quote]I hope he DOES drop the pen before signing.
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The problem anytime QB issues are addressed in balitmore is that people act like the only kind of QB's are the ones that suck and the ones that are great. There are a couple of things that people need to realize. (1) Joe is neither. He isn't Brady or Peyton but sure isn't anything close to what is playing in AZ. He is not great, but he is very good (2) There is nothing else out there that would drastically improve the position value-wise. We can talk to the days end about benching or getting rid of Joe but the truth is Tyrod, Vick, Alex Smith are a joke as far as thinking they will take us any further than Joe. (3) This dynamic also means Joe WILL get paid. Crappy teams will overpay in a heartbeat for Joe. Because there is nothing else on the market or in the draft that is surefire, Joe will probably get top 7 money because the leverage is in their hands. We have nothing in waiting as far a backup and I'm sure the front office (or fans for that matter) doesn't want to go through another decade of searching for someone they can win with. The other option is franchising but then you can't backload the deal or makeup cap room money with bonuses. It would be like 17 mil straight out of the cap. So basically what I am saying is support your QB because the options are few. Without the injuries this could have easily been another 12+ win season.
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Joe has a great attitude and seems to be an upstanding young man. Hope he does us proud and leads us to the Superbowl. We are all rightfully hard on him because he is the QB and it is frustrating to watch the Ravens give away games. Hopefully the Ravens will get healthier, Joe will play better, and everyone can jump back on the bandwagon.
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This offense is not very good,it's average at best,until they execute better they will continue to be average.If they step it up and be efficient on 3rd down then they will be very good.Feel better Torrey!
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Let Joe Run The "O"! If he can do it in a 2min drive, he can do it in a game with the Run of course! Give him the Reins and see his Worth! Caldwell can help from above! Slants and Stop and Go's are a MUST! Lets Go!
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For all of you that say we don't have a qualified back-up in Tyrod Taylor, how do you know this unless he is given a proper chance with the first team? We do know one thing, Tyrod is a much better runner and scrambler than Joe. Can he refine his game in other areas to be considered a top QB? Whose to say unless he is given the opportunity to do so. I beleive Joe was given the same opportunity some 4-5 years ago and we see what he has accomplished. Joe will never be any better than he is and we have the proof. No Superbowl apparences and inconsistency play for the offensive leader of this team. Joe seems to be a good guy but in the end, the NFL is a business and that wins over niceness.
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[quote name='Ghosted' timestamp='1355954071' post='1270942']
For all of you that say we don't have a qualified back-up in Tyrod Taylor, how do you know this unless he is given a proper chance with the first team? We do know one thing, Tyrod is a much better runner and scrambler than Joe. Can he refine his game in other areas to be considered a top QB? Whose to say unless he is given the opportunity to do so. I beleive Joe was given the same opportunity some 4-5 years ago and we see what he has accomplished. Joe will never be any better than he is and we have the proof. No Superbowl apparences and inconsistency play for the offensive leader of this team. Joe seems to be a good guy but in the end, the NFL is a business and that wins over niceness.
[/quote] he didn't do well in the preseason against third and fourth stringer playing first team he wouldn't do well we are going to the playoffs this is not the right time to put someone in who can't beat the practice squad . joe had a couple bad games and everyone knows this but he still gives us the best chance to win games.
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[quote name='RavensFanThick&Thin' timestamp='1355953342' post='1270928']
The problem anytime QB issues are addressed in balitmore is that people act like the only kind of QB's are the ones that suck and the ones that are great. There are a couple of things that people need to realize. (1) Joe is neither. He isn't Brady or Peyton but sure isn't anything close to what is playing in AZ. He is not great, but he is very good (2) There is nothing else out there that would drastically improve the position value-wise. We can talk to the days end about benching or getting rid of Joe but the truth is Tyrod, Vick, Alex Smith are a joke as far as thinking they will take us any further than Joe. (3) This dynamic also means Joe WILL get paid. Crappy teams will overpay in a heartbeat for Joe. Because there is nothing else on the market or in the draft that is surefire, Joe will probably get top 7 money because the leverage is in their hands. We have nothing in waiting as far a backup and I'm sure the front office (or fans for that matter) doesn't want to go through another decade of searching for someone they can win with. The other option is franchising but then you can't backload the deal or makeup cap room money with bonuses. It would be like 17 mil straight out of the cap. So basically what I am saying is support your QB because the options are few. Without the injuries this could have easily been another 12+ win season.
[/quote] very accurate very well said . joe is not going anywhere and im glad he isn't . i would like to add peyton manning has been in the league for 14 years he is the greatest ever in most minds so why does he only have one superbowl ring ? if he is perfect the goat he should have 12 leaving off the year he was injured . no one ever answers me and i have posted this allot . the answer is becaue everyone drops a few bombs and every qb in the nfl loses games.
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I think now is the time for a change. Something to shock the team. The preseason was a long time ago for Tyrod. With Joe's season long inconsistant play, the Ravens will lose againts the Giants and the Bengals! Yes they are in the playoffs but going in on a 5 games losing streak is laughable. And as I have always said, Joe will not win a superbowl for this team.
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[quote name='feartheflock' timestamp='1355952282' post='1270909']
The same thing happens to Cary Williams. He's had a great year for us at CB but people only talk about his mistakes. And when he does have a great game people ignore it. Thats what I don't get about Raven fans. They give Flacco soooooo much slack and excuses but if its anybody else making the mistakes you want them out in a second.
[/quote] I have been very hard on cary williams this season but honestly the blown coverage in the redskins game was johnsons/reeds fault , and in the denver game you could tell he expected safety help over the top and didn't get it that was not his issue it was ed reed's blown assignment . williams has improved even in coverage .
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[quote name='Ghosted' timestamp='1355954844' post='1270955']
I think now is the time for a change. Something to shock the team. The preseason was a long time ago for Tyrod. With Joe's season long inconsistant play, the Ravens will lose againts the Giants and the Bengals! Yes they are in the playoffs but going in on a 5 games losing streak is laughable. And as I have always said, Joe will not win a superbowl for this team.
[/quote] check your stats we have lost three games i know your still throwing a hissy fit cause we lost we have not now nor have we in recent years lost 5 games in a row .
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If Joe is smart, he will take less so the team can improve our O-line. Also, for everyone killing Joe, only half of that Pic6 was his fault. I was at the game and Q ran one of the most half-hearted, laziest routes I've ever seen. Go watch it. Prediction: Q takes a big pay cut or is gone next year.
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For all those who said Tyrod Taylor should not start, rethink that. Tyrod specifically said that his dream was to play for Baltimore. I agree with what Ghosted said. Give him a chance. You don't even know how well he can be on the field.
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He is a good QB with the ability to become "elite". Unless we plan on changing our offensive completely in order to fit the skillset of Tyrod, what are our options other than keeping him. He is the best we've ever had.
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[background=yellow]Flaco[/background] has a long ways to go in the evolution of being a reliable clutch quarterback
in games played and seasons played as a individual and collective leader of the
offense ...

he has very little to show for this season .... and I am sad to say I don't see him
executing and compiling game after game wins moving into the playoffs ...

will have to ask the Defense to win a playoff game for us Ed Reed and the Defense
are due for a string of Pick Sixes ....

he (Flaco) has great numbers in getting into the playoffs but greatly benefited by
world class defensive Ravens groups in the recent past years ...

when its time for Joe to show ... Joe is late, out-of-sync and pressed and hurried
to make the same consistent errors he should not be making ...

Flaco require constant fundamental coaching and management
from a quarterbacks coach to ever be anything !

are there any good BMore High School Offensive Coaches we can get to educate
the offense ...

The Ravens are stuck with Flaco and I don't see Ozzie or Steve making a change
they now have to impress Flaco that he can lead and win ...

looking for or recruiting for the next LUCK or RG III talent likes, they are not out there
and only come around in long wave cycles ...
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[quote name='raven5286' timestamp='1355955637' post='1270970']
For all those who said Tyrod Taylor should not start, rethink that. Tyrod specifically said that his dream was to play for Baltimore. I agree with what Ghosted said. Give him a chance. You don't even know how well he can be on the field.
[/quote] i have to disagree taylor did not do well in preseason at all against third string players and the practice squad . Harbough has said before that the game has not slowed down enough for him to be effective . when they put him in against the raiders the same errors from preseason . in a playoff push esp against manning, brady rodgers they will eat him alive i like tyrod too but he isnt ready .
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I think they will sign joe before next season but he will not get drew brees or tom brady money . now if he does guide this team to the superbowl and win it his stock value will definitely rise to a very good level.
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First three words that come to my mind when hearing ravens 2012 season.....Super Bowl Champions......where my brotha's at?
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Besides Tom Brady and Drew Brees, no qb in the league has attempted more passes and thrown less ints than Flacco. He is in Cam's horrible offensive system, gets no protection from the line, and the defense and running game are both ranked near the bottom of the league. He's still going to the playoffs for the 5th straight year, and on pace for about 4,000 yds, which neither Drew Brees nor Philip Rivers had ever done with Cam. All this Flacco bashing is embarrassing for Ravens fans.
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To all the people who are hating on Flacco listen to this, Flacco`s and Peyton Mannings QBR and stats are almost identical threw there first 5 years. Also I love Tyrod Taylor, (im a vt fan) I know what he can do, he is a supreme athlete and can do great things in the NFL. But you have to understand, in a playoff push why would you start someone who hasnt scene the light of day on a regular season game in the NFL. Let him settle in this was his first full off season. The game is prob still really fast for him. But hey if Flacco gets hurt, or Flacco keeps this crap up, im all for giving Taylor a chance. Also Tyrod is also an interesting subject because look at Wilson RG3 and Kaepernick. Last but not least anyone that says Flacco is a scrub and cant play, our very own Ray Lewis said and I quote "Tyrod was the steal of our draft, I watched almost all of his games when he played at VT, he is a human highlight real"
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It's amazing how people read what they want to read. My post concerned signing Joe to another contract AFTER this season is over. That was the point of the article, not if Joe is a capable QB or not.

My point is that he is capable. That is all he is, and in my opinion, all he ever will be. Now, given our history with QBs, capable is a huge improvement over what we have had. And if you have the best defense in the history of the league, a mauling Offensive Line built to run the ball and a few key playmakers you CAN win a SB with capable. Right now, we do not have ANY of those things.

So overpaying for capable is not going to be in the best interests of this club if we want to address all of the other deficiencies. I don't know if Tyrod is the answer next year. I don't know if we can find a diamond in the lower rounds of next years draft or not. I do know that if we tie up our salary cap overpaying Joe Flacco, we will not be able to fix anything else. We will plug and play the usual low round draft pics and rookie free agents and then curiously wonder why they are underperforming.

Next year (not this year, it's too late for that) we need a change in philosophy. Joe is a pure pocket passer, who either chooses to be or is athletically immobile. He has absolutely no pocket awareness whatsoever and bad habit of fumbling the ball either when getting sacked or QB sneaking. His judgement is questionable at best, as he continues to thrown into double and triple coverage and his accuracy has never been at an elite level. He is streaky and he doesn't appear to exhibit much leadership ability when on the field.

Currently, our team is not built to support this style of play at QB. We have a horrible offensive line that can not keep pressure off the QB, and although we have speed at WR, for whatever reason (talent, route running, bad play calling, etc) they have difficulty getting separation off their routes. You need a QB who is mobile, can think on his feet and not turn the ball over to work with all of that. Joe is not any of those things.

Joe is a decent QB and in another system he would probably do better than he has here. But it's a catch-22. Overpay Joe and keep the same problems you see now. Or cut him loose, take that money, improve the offensive line, change the offensive philosophy to a run heavy offense and find a QB that is mobile and makes good decisions.
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to all the flacco supporters name me a game flacco had brady like performance other than the raider game ......i'm waiting
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