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Kyle Shanahan

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To be honest I would like him to be our Head Coach. I think hes a younger version of a Sean payton with the potential to be a better play caller. The only thing risky about him is he has never been a head coach before, but after reading this article [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113501/article/kyle-shanahan-on-coaching-fast-track-with-redskins-malleability"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113501/article/kyle-shanahan-on-coaching-fast-track-with-redskins-malleability[/url] it makes me want him even more. I know Joe and him would be great working together, because Kyle adapts to the qb, not the other way around. I know coach Harbaugh is a great leader of men, but I don't really hear about John being schematically good. He also cost this team by bringing back Cam, and now firing him mid season is not a good look.

Does anyone think Kyle Shanahan would be a good head coach for the ravens?
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[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1355866992' post='1269774']
To be honest I would like him to be our Head Coach. I think hes a younger version of a Sean payton with the potential to be a better play caller. The only thing risky about him is he has never been a head coach before, but after reading this article [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113501/article/kyle-shanahan-on-coaching-fast-track-with-redskins-malleability"]http://www.nfl.com/n...ns-malleability[/url] it makes me want him even more. I know Joe and him would be great working together, because Kyle adapts to the qb, not the other way around. I know coach Harbaugh is a great leader of men, but I don't really hear about John being schematically good. He also cost this team by bringing back Cam, and now firing him mid season is not a good look.

Does anyone think Kyle Shanahan would be a good head coach for the ravens?
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Like that option. Would like to see a more aggressive approach on the team. I do not like playing it safe and when you get a lead you dummy the offense down and play off on the defense. It never leads to anything good. I want to see pressure pressure pressure on the opposing team. Very nice post my friend.
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[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' timestamp='1355867462' post='1269788']
Like that option. Would like to see a more aggressive approach on the team. I do not like playing it safe and when you get a lead you dummy the offense down and play off on the defense. It never leads to anything good. I want to see pressure pressure pressure on the opposing team. Very nice post my friend.
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Thanks, I was just thinking ahead of what Joe could be in the future given a new system, and some new confidence in the system. I know Joe won't be leaving so we might as well make things easier for him to succeed. I also remember that John Harbaugh didn't have any Head Coaching experience before we hired him. I just like innovating coaches, and Kyle seems to be that type of guy.
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I'll pass. I think it's a little premature to be talking about a replacement HC. We're still the division leader with a 5th straight playoff berth under John. It's a miracle we have 9 wins with the scope of our injuries and lack of offense.
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[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1355868993' post='1269837']
I'll pass. I think it's a little premature to be talking about a replacement HC. We're still the division leader with a 5th straight playoff berth under John. It's a miracle we have 9 wins with the scope of our injuries and lack of offense.
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I love your optimism friend but no matter what time of the season we are in. Looking at options never hurts, hell might even make Harb's man up and show a backbone for once.
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[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1355868993' post='1269837']
I'll pass. I think it's a little premature to be talking about a replacement HC. We're still the division leader with a 5th straight playoff berth under John. It's a miracle we have 9 wins with the scope of our injuries and lack of offense.
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Yea, I agree its a little bit to premature but at the same time he might be gone after this season. Other teams might being trying to get him, and the ravens job is probably more attractive than the other jobs. As far as going to the playoffs 5 straight years that's a great accomplishment, but also wasted opportunities. We also will probably not have any hall of famers anymore in ed reed and ray lewis. We also won't have a decided advantage in talent like in the past, after this season.
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Harbaugh should not have dropped that pass at the end of the AFCCG last year. We could have been in the SB. I'm not sure why we brought him back.
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Kyle Shanahan has been a good OC throughout his entire career, I'm certainly not opposed to seeing if he's the guy. I'm fairly confident that Harbaugh isn't. Still, I'm worried our OL is too decimated and unintelligent to run that system.
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Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us get to the playoffs 5 years in a row? Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us have a winning record every year? Do you really think Harbaugh had nothing to do with our successes? Now we have a team riddled with injuries and you want him fired? SMH!

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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1355872612' post='1269932']
Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us get to the playoffs 5 years in a row? Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us have a winning record every year? Do you really think Harbaugh had nothing to do with our successes? Now we have a team riddled with injuries and you want him fired? SMH!
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Amen to that
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1355872612' post='1269932']
Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us get to the playoffs 5 years in a row? Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us have a winning record every year? Do you really think Harbaugh had nothing to do with our successes? Now we have a team riddled with injuries and you want him fired? SMH!
[/quote]Yes, people are seriously looking to get rid of said HC... I've seen sky is falling threads before but this one takes it to a whole different level.
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[quote name='PurpleCityLights' timestamp='1355872772' post='1269942']
I think we need a new Offensive Line coach, And Wide Receiver coach.
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Definitely a new WR coach. I've been saying that for a couple of years.
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I do the facepalm each week after our HC explaines how great the other team played and how this experience will make us better ( or whatever positive spin is in place ). The playoff record is the result of talent ( fluke lucky streak this year however ). Rebuild time from the top down....nuke this team and coaches start from scratch if it were my money.
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Its a interesting thought that's all I am saying. For me personally I would like Kyle as a our head coach for the future. I love the fact that this team has been to the playoffs 5 years in a row, but isn't it time to take the next step? You know maybe go to the superbowl? The fact that Cam was retained after the season was all John Harbaugh, and the fact now he has a OC who was never called a nfl game besides last week is sad. If he just let Cam walk after last season maybe a new scheme on offense would have helped tremendously.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1355872612' post='1269932']
Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us get to the playoffs 5 years in a row? Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us have a winning record every year? Do you really think Harbaugh had nothing to do with our successes? Now we have a team riddled with injuries and you want him fired? SMH!
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One of the points of this thread is to look for someone to help Joe improve. John isn't capable of making that happen in my opinion. This is a QB league all I am saying is I believe Kyle will be able to get everything out of Flacco. I want to keep Harbaugh, but at the same time if the rest of this season goes downhill and the ravens have a subpar season next year, I wouldn't say that is out of the question.
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[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1355875744' post='1270012']
One of the points of this thread is to look for someone to help Joe improve. J[b]ohn isn't capable of making that happen in my opinion. This is a QB league all I am saying is I believe Kyle will be able to get everything out of Flacco. I want to keep Harbaugh, but at the same time if the rest of this season goes downhill and the ravens have a subpar season next year, I wouldn't say that is out of the question.[/b]
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The ravens just recently got rid of Cam(the man that every ravens fans said was holding joe back) and now the ravens offense and joe have to adjust to a new offensive coordinator. if the ravens lose or dont make it to the playoffs there will be alot good offensive coodinators to choose from this offseason . I personally like Hue Jackson and Pat Shurmur
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why not just find a good offensive coordinator? maybe im in the minority but i like harbaugh, he works well with the team and brings a positive atmosphere/chemistry to the team. We improved as a team from when harbaugh started to last year. We were a field goal/completion away from the superbowl last year. We are not as good this year because the d is hanging by a thread. Our offense is healthy and talented but they're just inconsistent. Our offense has always been inconsistent but relied on our d to save the day. Our d is injured now so the offense needs to show up. A good offensive ccordinator + execution by the players can fix that.
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[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1355876719' post='1270024']
The ravens just recently got rid of Cam(the man that every ravens fans said was holding joe back) and now the ravens offense and joe have to adjust to a new offensive coordinator. if the ravens lose or dont make it to the playoffs there will be alot good offensive coodinators to choose from this offseason . I personally like Hue Jackson and Pat Shurmur
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Yea I like Hue as well, but I like Kyle a little more. Kyle might be a HC after the season as well. Just giving some options.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1355872612' post='1269932']
Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us get to the playoffs 5 years in a row? Are people seriously looking to get rid of the HC who helped us have a winning record every year? Do you really think Harbaugh had nothing to do with our successes? Now we have a team riddled with injuries and you want him fired? SMH!
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You gotta stop with the commonsense thing, it only leads to headaches with all the nonsense around here.
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1355881252' post='1270072']
You gotta stop with the commonsense thing, it only leads to headaches with all the nonsense around here.
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hahaha i actually laughed out loud.

Like awholelottahaloti said on the first page, Harbaugh should've caught that pass in the AFCCG last year, and we wouldn't even be talking about this.
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No, I don't think he'd be good for us. He was nearly ran out of town before RG3 .. I like what Dirk did in ATL... Then again, superior talent on the offensive side of the ball makes life easier.
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1355881890' post='1270082']



hahaha i actually laughed out loud.

Like awholelottahaloti said on the first page, Harbaugh should've caught that pass in the AFCCG last year, and we wouldn't even be talking about this.
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Or at the very least he should have made the kick to send it to overtime.
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John seems like a nice guy but he doesn't have what it takes to be a HC IMHO. There's a stark contrast between him and his younger brother Jim who is much more aggressive and "cold-blooded" when it comes to his coaching style, e.g., running up the score, the "handshake" with Detroit's coach, replacing his starting QB with his back-up, etc.. For my money, I like his style better. I think John aspires to be a player's coach like Andy Reid but he is obviously intimidated by some of the veterans like Ray and Ed as some young coaches would be. I'd rather have a Head Coach like Tom Coughlin who could care less if his players like him as long as they respect him. Being a player's coach is a fine line to walk. Ask Rex Ryan.

John has been the benefactor of very talented players who have led him to the playoffs for five years in a row now. Unless something drastic happens, that streak will end next year just as the 15 game streak of home victories ended. Its December and we're not playing well, notwithstanding all of the injuries. Yes, I think it is legitimate to question his leadership. How many of you can remember when Marty Schottenheimer was canned after his first season with the Redskins? I forget the year but the Skins lost their 1st 5 games and wound up winning 8 of their last 11 games that year and he was still fired even though their final record was 8-8. I can recall thinking that it was unfair at the time but stranger things have happened. To put it into perspective, we won 9 of our first 11 games thanks in part to lady luck and we could easily wind up with a record of 9-7. Of course, a lot will depend on how we do in the playoffs but if we go one and done, the front office will have to do some serious self-introspection, notwithstanding the injuries. The inspiration for other mercenaries to come play in Baltimore has not come from Coach Harbaugh but rather Ray Lewis. When he retires, it will be even tougher to attract good free agents.

My mother taught me two things about eggs that have served me well all these years. The 1st is "Never enumerate your feathered progeny before their incubation period is fully realized." The 2nd is "Never put all your eggs in one basket." The chicken always comes home to roost. Let;s win one for Ray & Reed so we can put all this silly talk to rest!
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1355883627' post='1270115']
No, I don't think he'd be good for us. He was nearly ran out of town before RG3 .. I like what Dirk did in ATL... Then again, superior talent on the offensive side of the ball makes life easier.
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Then again, when you have to choose between Rex Grossman and John Beck for your starting QB, you cant expect a whole lot offensively...
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[quote name='Free Agent' timestamp='1355888893' post='1270218']


Then again, when you have to choose between Rex Grossman and John Beck for your starting QB, you cant expect a whole lot offensively...
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They CHOSE those QBs.... Thinking that they could be "smart enough" to make them good. Grossman was a first round draft pick, he had some talent... similar to Flacco, he self destructed at times. I get what you're saying , but the Ego of the Shanny is pretty remarkable. lol. : P
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I would ride it out with Harbaugh a little bit longer with Cam just getting canned. Even though I'm against HC's that can't take over either the defensive or offensive play calling duties, John has done a decent job since he been here.
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