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[News] Ravens Don't Take Solace In Playoff Berth

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The Ravens react to earning their fifth straight postseason bid Sunday.

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I really hope we're not going to be one and done in the playoffs but after being batch slapped at home I don't expect much. Rookie QBs, subpar teas with losing records have all had success against us.

Last year was our time to win it all
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[quote name='Zeus' timestamp='1355773548' post='1267963']
I really hope we're not going to be one and done in the playoffs but after being batch slapped at home I don't expect much. Rookie QBs, subpar teas with losing records have all had success against us.

Last year was our time to win it all
[/quote] Anything can happen once a team is in but looking at the injury situation on defense and offensive woes do not count on advancing past the first round.
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In the weeks leading up to yesterday, any Raven would have said we don't care how ugly it is as long as it gets us in the playoffs!

Well, I guess having an NFC team push us backwards into the playoffs while our Offense fell through it's collective kiester (again) gives no solace at all!

Well, don't whine,... do something about it! Play football!
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How about dangling a carrot in front of our starters and tell them that if we win this weekend against NY it wins the division and we rest all our banged up players in week 17 creating our own bye. We have no shot at a higher seed than 4th anyway.
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If the O play does not improve dramatically, it is going to be tough for our D to carry us. We have a very desperate NYG team coming in here on sunday. Let's lock up at least one home PO Game!
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the way we are going, we will be one & done in the playoffs. The coaches have no idea
how to correct our situation. You can't blame our lack of offence all on play calling.
We need better coaching & an upgrade at QB, Flacco is not ELITE. He and Harbaugh was given a very good team, but they are turning it into an average team at best. The
head coach does not know how to evaluate & hire proficient coaches.
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On pure talent alone the Ravens offense should be lights out and carrying a defense that has saved their rear ends for as long as we, the fans, can remember. It is funny that in a year where all of us accepted that the defense will not be its usual dominant self we still silently blame the defense for not bailing out the offense. Some of us would say they are not blaming the defense, but we should actually give the defense a pass. That's right, I said it: We should give our defense a pass this year. I am not into making excuses, but where you fail to see the obvious then you become irrational and that, I choose not to be. Realistically speaking, this defense has given us their all and it is still not enough because our offense can't hold their own.

Let's see, our defense has lost coordinator after coordinator to franchises that hope to replicate our success, with mixed results, from Marvin Lewis, to Mike Nolan, to Rex Ryan, to Chuck Pagano... and several others in between-- defensive line coaches, quality control personnel (see Jack Del Rio, Mike Smith)... you name him, we lost him. Our players on defense parlay flash-in-the-pan seasons in the Ravens' marquee defensive system into monster contracts with other teams (see Anthony Weaver, Edgerton Hartwell, Dwan Edwards...). Other good players left and have not been as good (Bart Scott, Duane Starks, Adalius Thomas...) still the Ravens chugged and plugged and remained a force on Defense. Eventually all of the subtractions and age to the core catches up with you.

Ray Lewis tried to reinvent his body by slimming down and that failed. Ed Reed has played the past few years on a partially damaged neck. This past season the defense lost the two back-up safeties; Nakamura and Zbikowski, starting LB Jarrett Johnson, starting DT Cory Redding (who replaced Edwards in the line up as an upgrade in free agency). Sergio Kindle, the team's top draft pick a few years ago-- we all know how that worked out. Haloti Ngata is hurt and playing through his injuries... We have had several undrafted free agents starting at several linebacker spots simultaneously (Jameel McClain, Dannell Ellerbe, Albert McClellan, Josh Bynes...)! Our cornerbacks... never mind.

I can go on rambling about the defense's tales of woe that symbolize a maestro that has become the victim of his own success, but the point is that our defense has done it for years without asking much of the offense. In the meantime the front office has pumped money and draft picks into the offense in the hope that they will at least give the defense a breather-- that ain't happening by a long shot. Our offense is pretty much intact-- few injuries if any, and they sit on the sidelines, after going 3 and out, preening themselves like peacocks. It is time for those guys to put on the big boy pants, show up, and earn their paychecks. The longer this MASH unit defense stays out on the field, the more the injuries are going to pile on. This has got to stop.
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[i]"I don't think that there was any doubt in our mind that we were going to make the playoffs," tight end Dennis Pitta said. "We just have to play better, especially at this time of the year. The last thing we want to do is kind of back our way into the playoffs.

"I don't think anyone is relieved that all of the sudden we're in the playoffs. That's been the expectation since day one and nobody really thought that we wouldn't be in there. [u][b]We're just disappointed in how we played [/b][/u]and we just have to be able to put it behind us."[/i]

^ i'm disappointed with how you guys have been "playing" for 3 games now. at some point...just making the playoffs is not enough anymore! win the Superbowl!

~Mili
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I think the picture of Q in the article says it all. But anyway, what's done is done. The Ravens are in the playoffs again, though by luck because they looked awful yesterday and they know it. They have the Giants next week, which given that they didn't score AT ALL yesterday is some consolation. Me personally I'd say the last 2 games are very winnable, but for the sake of everybody loyal to purple & black, I hope that is the absolute last time I see a game played like that ever.
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I don't take solace in the fact that we are so dinged up that an SEC team could have their way with us. We needed a bye but couldn't finish, just like every year. I think either Flacco takes us to the big game or he gets the boot because he sure isn't worth the money he is asking for.
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Our ooffensive line is simply garbage basura. Like reallly 85% of the time joe drop back for the pass he got lit up. Even when he did scramble. If john harbaugh can't see that something is wrong.
Mckinnie-osemele- Birk/Gino-Yanda oher/reid. Secondly drop passes. Lastly joe needs to be more confident.
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Pitta was actually one of the few bright spots in that game. If he stays healthy and we fins a QB who can get him the ball consistently, he should be a good one. I didn't see anyone on the field (for us, anyway) playing any harder and determined as him.
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i agree with both Q and Pitta. the playoff berth iz kool, but i've come to expect tht out of these guys. every yr i expect tht we will compete for the division crown and make the playoffs. maybe the harbaugh era has me spoiled me. wht i dont expect iz a 3 wk losing skid and lackluster performances @ home. if we want to make any noise come january-february we need to gt going now......... like 4 mins ago.
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Jameel McClain - LB - Ravens Ravens ILB Jameel McClain is done for the rest of the season with a spinal contusion.
McClain suffered the injury in Week 14 and experienced swelling in his spine, so the Ravens are shutting him down. A 13-game starter this season, McClain racked up 79 tackles. He's under contract with a $3 million salary in 2013.
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[quote name='crabby' timestamp='1355775414' post='1268023']
How about dangling a carrot in front of our starters and tell them that if we win this weekend against NY it wins the division and we rest all our banged up players in week 17 creating our own bye. We have no shot at a higher seed than 4th anyway.
[/quote]If we win the last 2 and NE looses 1 we will be the 3rd seed. I do not expect that, but if we win against the Giants we will have a choice to rest or go for 3rd seed. No way to get any better than that and not a lot of difference between 3rd or 4th seed, so I say beat the Giants and rest against Cincy.
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With a win over the Giants on sunday we will clinch the AFC North, I will cheer my Ravens as far as they get in playoff hopefully Super Bowl, but I do hope alot that the defense will be it usually till next season.
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This looks like a team that has given up on itself. Who has the Quarterback's back literally. Nobody! On successive plays late in the game the OL allowed sacks against Joe. It appears that nobody cares whether he gets hit or not. Where is the pride that prompted the slogan "Play like a Raven?" We looked like a bunch of chickens out there yesterday. Who is looking out for their dogs? Look at the highlights of other games! You see WRs making one-handed catches, coaches coaching their players during the game, QBs looking at pics to study what is working and what isn't, owners cheering for their teams in their private boxes.
QBs with time to throw the ball from the pocket and wide open receivers. Our offensive line is offensive. Our defense is horrible and that is understandable given how many players are injured but the thing about excuses is that evrybody has one. What about "the next man up?" Someone needs to man up!!! Flacco finally did. The others need to do likewise. We're lucky to be in the playoffs given the injuries we've had to overcome and the lack of inspired play by a number of players including(insert your favorite one here).

Probably the most discouraging thing to me was watching the game on TV and listening to the boo birds cheer their team on. The so-called 12th man that Baltimore is known for sounded like the fickle Eagle fans. Its OK to be frustrated. So am I but that was pathetic! The announcer Dan Dierdorf even commented on the stands emptying out in the third quarter. If the fans have given up on their team and the team has given up on itself, there isn't much left is there?

Situation: 1st and goal on the 4 yard line and the score is 10-0. There are ~40 seconds to go in the half and you have 3 TOs in your pocket.
Play call: Quick throw to the front corner of the endzone presumably to catch the other team off-guard.
Result: Touchdown for the other teamand and the turning point of the game.
Blame: Execution or Play-call? You tell me. I've made my mind up. That was one of the most bone-headed albeit aggressive play calls I've seen all year. Unfortunately, it was called at the wrong time of the game. Its the type of call you make when your team is ahead by twenty points. Who made the call? This team needs to clean house in the off-season and bring in some football minds, young man, that is, Mr. Bisciotti.
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lmao i kind of hit him a little bit he hit the heck our of knowshawn last time moreno had to remember that
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At least Ed Reed has the balls to stand up and say something. All Joe Flacco says is "We are a 9-5 team but everyone makes it seem like we are 0-14" "We just got to execute better"
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And now the spotlight goes to Mr. Joe Flacco, Joe Cool, Unflappable Flacco.....the man who said he is a top five QB...
It is obvious to me Jim Caldwell did not make Payton Manning what he is, Payton is playing lights out like he always did without Jim...Payton could have went anywhere and improved a team.
Our offense is what it is because of Joe " well mostly".

Look at other veteran QB'S and the rookie QB'S that show their emotions....they scramble and run for yards when nothing is there. When QB'S get excited and fight for yards, the rest of the offense follows suit. Joe "IMHO" just doesnt get the offense pumped up.
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If we all think this year has been, shall we say poor, then wait until 2013. From all the
articles during training camp etc I felt like we were not going to have a good year. They
have surprised me no doubt. But, we are going to have to drop a lot of salary this coming
year to beef up our defense and add parts to our offense. Just prepare yourselves. The biggest regret I have is we let JJ go in free agency.

And finally I think Joe's agent made a huge mistake in not letting Joe sign this year.
I think Joe has been pressing to make the big bucks and it has backfired big time.
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According to Harblow he thinks the O line is really good. What the heck?? What is he looking at the Pats line?
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Whats wrong with offense:
Lack of rhythm lack of tempo
O-line and flacco not on the same page.
O-line and ray rice not on the same page.
Defenses are just shutting down ray rice and daring flacco to beat them.
We have offensive weapons other than rice but cant seem to utilize them effectively.
Timing routes are awful and seems to be overlooked.
Execution is poor at best.
And we have to fix all this crap in a few weeks SMH.
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harbaugh is like a broken record with his comments every week that they know what they did wrong and are working to improve. if he actually had a clue, they would actually improve. i am fairly sure he has no idea what he is doing, as is proving out by the fact that he cannot take any play calling or make adjustments to either side of the ball. just like flacco, he looks like a deer in the headlights whenever asked what changes need to be made. the fact is, he doesnt know because he just empowers his coordinators. i dont think that is a recipe for success.
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just get healthy and play better guys . congrats on the playoffs !!! wouldn't be ed reed if he didnt say exactly what he thinks .
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Ok then, lets do something about it next week. Offense, Defense, Special teams! Make a stand and win out with commitment.
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[quote name='designermaryland' timestamp='1355782038' post='1268184']
harbaugh is like a broken record with his comments every week that they know what they did wrong and are working to improve. if he actually had a clue, they would actually improve. i am fairly sure he has no idea what he is doing, as is proving out by the fact that he cannot take any play calling or make adjustments to either side of the ball. just like flacco, he looks like a deer in the headlights whenever asked what changes need to be made. the fact is, he doesnt know because he just empowers his coordinators. i dont think that is a recipe for success.
[/quote]

I guess Harbaugh is like a broken record for taking the Ravens to the playoffs for his first five seasons in a row. I guess he is like a broken record for having the most wins as a head coach in the past five years too. Seriously, get off your high horse and show a little respect. The head coaches main job is to get the team that the GM gassembles for him and win with them, which NO one has done better than Harbaugh since he has been a head coach.
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Ray Lewis Rise HD is the BEST video i have ever seen . better than Avatar, independence day,and The Matrix put together. Awesome ! Bravo!
keep it up.
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I know that we have had a ton of injuries but;

We have the # 1 RB in the NFL
the #1 FB in the NFL

We have a solid T in OHER (maybe not the best but very good)
one of the best G in the game in YANDA
one of the best ROOKIE OL prospects in KO

WE have the #1 interior DL in the game in NGATA
the #1 Safety in the history of the game in ED
the #1 LB in the History of the game in RAY

Last seasons DEF LEAGUE MVP in SUGGS
a very good rookie prospect in UPSHAW

A probowl caiber S in Pollard
A probowl caliber
a probowl caiber possession WR in BOlDIN
a very talented young WR in TORREY
and a TOP 12 -15 QB in FLACCO

(who are all expected to be healty for the last two games and the playoffs
If we can not be competitive with that

WE will need to re-think many of these coaches in the post season~
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[quote name='12thmandynasty' timestamp='1355781611' post='1268181']
Whats wrong with offense:
Lack of rhythm lack of tempo
O-line and flacco not on the same page.
O-line and ray rice not on the same page.
Defenses are just shutting down ray rice and daring flacco to beat them.
We have offensive weapons other than rice but cant seem to utilize them effectively.
Timing routes are awful and seems to be overlooked.
Execution is poor at best.
And we have to fix all this crap in a few weeks SMH.
[/quote]If you boil it all down, it looks like the problem can be fixed if we fix the O-line.
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I am surprised how well Romo has progressed. He understands how to play the pocket. His passing, at least last night, was right on. I sigh and can only hope that Flacco will improve on his pocket awareness, know when to move up, and when to get rid of the ball. I don't ever expect Flacco to extend plays like Roethlisberger. But I remember reading, back in August, that this would be the year that he would become elite in glowing neon.
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"For us making the playoffs isn%u2019t a surprise,%u201D wide receiver Anquan Boldin said. "It%u2019s something that you expect so you don%u2019t really get excited about it.%u201D

Thanks Q for saying this, Because this is the attitude of MOST Raven fans but we're constantly told we're " spoiled " for feeling this way. Smh

Go Ravens !!
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I'm not sure the "The last thing they want to do it back into the playoffs". It looks like exactly what you're doing.
Is the fact that we are almost assured a playoff spot for the last 2 weeks have anything to do with the fact that we COULD HAVE clinched it a couple weeks in a row but didn't?
Not that important right now? Just 2 more games to muddle through THEN, you all can start playing like Ravens? Has it really become THAT MUCH of a business?
I sure hope not but that's what I'm seeing. I'm not one of those comspiricy theorists kind of guys but.....
It could be that we just really suck but that doesn't fit what we've done in the past, we've been a quality team for a long time. The new CBA puts a question in my mind if it hasn't truly hurt the game AND the players.
These injuries are simply astounding. I don't believe we have ever had this many EVER!
You're also seeing more injuries across the league as well. HMmmm, something is not right. The players don;t want to practice in pads, don't want to work a little overtime etc. I do believe "business" has finally caught up with the NFL and it has taken a turn for the worst. You can only squeeze so much out of something before it breaks. IJS
This year has just felt different from the very beginning. Football has changed and I don;t think it was for the better.
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Harbaugh does not know how to call offensive or defensive plays. He has no experience, he lets his cordinators run the show. He should have worked his way up the coaching
ranks. He was not ready to be a head coach when hired, he is very good at pulic relations. During his press conference he says nothing we don't already know, if he
knew how to hire capable coaches we wouldn't be in the position we are today. Next year
we clean house and get some capable coaches.
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[quote name='J.Flacco#5' timestamp='1355781193' post='1268168']
Sorry. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcSBw76_tpk[/media]
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Thanks for posting the link, Lewis is AWESOME.
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Start off by putting Bryant McKinnie and move Oher (we need horses up front). PRO BOWL Fullback #shakeshead. Speedy, strong receivers who are good if not better then most teams in the league. I think back to when we ran a three back rotation to wear teams down (AFC Championship Game) #pondersasec. We kept it simple and with who we have now we still can get it done. Run the no-huddle like the real no-huddle (Bills of the 90's). They ran it to perfection 4 straight super-bowls. Seems we are just trying be a team we aren't. Defense may be banged up, still man up. We have studs and we back our young guns like the vets. WE CAN'T BE BEAT and as fans gotta push'em to raise up. We CAN do this, gotta bleed purple and black. #Putsonbandaid Division -> AFC Championship -> THE GOAL
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bigdaddycompton, as was the case with flacco, the team has success in spite of him. this is not the first observation made that harbaugh has no clue how to call a defense or offensive play. i think it would help just a little bit if a head coach could actually step in when something is not working. barry switzer won a superbowl. you are telling me he is a great head coach? harbaugh has caught a good team in its prime, and ridden it for a while. but when none of the coaches can figure out how to generate a first down for 5 games in a row, there is something missing from the equation.
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New to this site and can't believe the negativity from Ravens fans. The Ravens are fortunate to be in the playoffs at all when you look at the injuries this year....almost the entire linebacking crew, their best dback, half the offensive line, and on and on. If we had a healthy team we would be at at least 11 wins now and headed for a first round bye in the playoffs. Neither Harbaugh or Flaco should be blammed for where we are today and getting Cam off the sidelines will pay big dividends next year. I'm not giving up and if we can pull out a win over the Giants and rest a few players for the Bengals game I still think we will get that usual first round win (hopefully over the Colts) and that would be a good finish for an injury riddled year.
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Maybe Ed should think about hanging up his cleats after this season. I couldn't believe it when I saw the Denver player leapfrog over his back! That's the second time that has happened this season. He's "embarrassed for his city"? Maybe he should be embarrassed for himself!

Sad times for Ravens' fans. Hopefully next season is better.
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Come on CatGirl,

I'll take Ed Reed any day of the week. Had Ed raised up on that guy, they would have thrown a flag on him. Nobody can make every play. The Redskins let Champ Bailey go. Look at him now....
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@ catgirl. Ed is blaming the flu as the reason he couldn't tackle him...smh
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C'mon Ravens. This is a perfect opportunity to get back on track. The Giants secondary is suffering and we need to play balls out all 4 quarters.
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