Has this team quit on Harbaugh?

[jimmypowder]

For the first time in the Harbaugh era I saw signs that our team quit in this Denver game .

I can't say I saw this before but during the Billick era there was a similar time when you saw this develop .

Give me your thoughts on this and no I don't think I'm blowing this loss out of proportion .

[display name]

Harbs isn't exactly doing his part either.

[Latch]

i don't think i would be going my hardest out there when I was down by 20+. I would've given up too. after that TD pass after the pick 6, the game was over. no question.

[Ravens_fan]

seems like they have...

[IH EART DA RAVENS]

I honestly don't think we have any way of knowing that yet. We're not in the locker room, the only real way we can gauge that is by anything coaches or players say to the media from here on out...I suppose we'll see as the week leads up to the Giants game.

[Fang]

[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1355700111' post='1265459']
For the first time in the Harbaugh era I saw signs that our team quit in this Denver game .

I can't say I saw this before but during the Billick era there was a similar time when you saw this develop .

Give me your thoughts on this and no I don't think I'm blowing this loss out of proportion .
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Not sure I would say they quit. But for the first time since Harbaugh took over it looked like a team that had no hope. Their heads were all down and they all had a look of shock on their faces. It almost seems to me as if Cam was the least of their issues. The Flacco pick 6 killed the team.

[Raving_Heathen]

This team has never been Harbaugh's. It's always been Ray Lewis and Ed Reed's team.

I still don't know what John Harbaugh brings to the table or why anyone (particularly future HoFers) would respect him as a HC or respect what he has to say. He's had the incredible luxury of inheriting a team with tremendous defensive talent and has ridden the coat tails of success. Now that the team is in seeming free-fall, we'll see what kind of coaching he can really do. A good start would be for him to stop wasting valuable 2nd half TOs with incredibly stupid challenges.

[Moderator 2]

The D and special teams really played the first half--I think they got tired. Flacco had less then 2 sec to throw and if the max protected the receivers could not get open. There was a lot of crap going on they were not calling.

[Militant X 1]

possibly.

~Mili

[luvrayrice27]

cant know for sure

[Larryterri]

“Joe is trying to stick it in there for a touchdown,” Harbaugh added. “The kid [Harris] made a great play. That’s what happens. That’s football.”

Harbaugh on the pick 6. This comment does not surprise me,

He might as well have said, "We played piss poor offense today, that happens, thats football." The level of accountability has left this team, we'll get more of the same until it comes back.

[T3hRaven]

I wouldn't be surprised if the team has quit on Harbaugh. I hate his banter, and all I hear are the press conferences. I imagine his attitude must be even more grating in person.

[bmoreboy02]

I agree 100% that harbaugh inherited a highly talented team. People always uze this teams record and playoff games as a defense for harbaugh and flacco when people say bad things about them. The pkint is harbaugh and flacco had nothing to do with tbe success of this team the last 4 years. Ed reed, ray lewis, terrell suggs, haloti ngata ladarius webb and jared johnson were the reasons for our success. Harbaugh is not a very good head coach and i think we made a huge mistake letting rex ryan go. Yea rex isnot doing so good in new york but i think with the guys we have here and the system rex had in place here rex would of did alot with this team

[jimmypowder]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1355702438' post='1265623']
I wouldn't be surprised if the team has quit on Harbaugh. I hate his banter, and all I hear are the press conferences. I imagine his attitude must be even more grating in person.
[/quote]yep if his press conferences are anything like his team meetings , with the everyone is playing good banter ,
do the players get a real assessment of their playing? I sure hope so and I know he doesn't wanna throw anyone under the bus , but geeez.

[stan]

They didn't quit just frustrated. We need to dedicate our entire 2013 draft to defense and fill some needs the way Chicago did. Now the Bears have a very good defense. We need to restock our defense.
Should be possible to find all we need in the draft. Vince Wilfork would be a Raven if Billick hadn't traded that pick away for Kyle Boller. With our first pick the following year after drafting Boller the patriots selected Vice Wilfork.
I think we should be trading up in the draft instead of back like we've been doing. Cream rises to the top. Best players are generally at the top, less a few exceptions.

[cobrajet]

No they tried to keep fighting. Joe tried his best to run the guy who intercepted him down and Dennis Pitta kept fighting. I do not believe they have given up .

[Moderator 3]

I didn't see any "quit" in our team today. I saw some frustration, but no quit.

[TorreyRiceQuanSizzle55]

Harbaugh does not command the respect of the team, and he can't maximize its potential.

It's very telling when a team basically refuses to do what he says, and the homer media cover it as "an open discussion to air out grievances". Bullcrap. Do you think that's what Belichik would do?

Blow this team up. Get rid of Harbaugh and let him work at a church. Trade Ed Reed and Joe Flacco while they still (if they still) have any value to get some young talent on this old-arse team, and turn Ray into a LB coach.

Wake up people. We're NOT a good team. We have some individuals with serious talent (Rice, Torrey, Pierce, Ellerbe, Suggs, Tucker), but we're not a cohesive team. The best thing that happened to the Ravens today was getting embarrassed at home, so hopefully people's eyes will open up. I love the Ravens, but for the sake of the team, losing today was the best thing that could have happened.

Or maybe the homers would prefer we limp into the playoffs and get bounced in one, but not make any of the changes that need to be made to make our team better.

BLOW IT UP!

[IH EART DA RAVENS]

[quote name='Raving_Heathen' timestamp='1355701188' post='1265548']
This team has never been Harbaugh's. It's always been Ray Lewis and Ed Reed's team.

I still don't know what John Harbaugh brings to the table or why anyone (particularly future HoFers) would respect him as a HC or respect what he has to say. He's had the incredible luxury of inheriting a team with tremendous defensive talent and has ridden the coat tails of success. Now that the team is in seeming free-fall, we'll see what kind of coaching he can really do. A good start would be for him to stop wasting valuable 2nd half TOs with incredibly stupid challenges.
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That's something I've wondered about myself. Not necessarily that players don't respect Harbaugh, but that they maybe "Yeah, yeah, right, okay cool Coach" nod their heads at him when he tells them things and then pay a bit more attention to what leaders like Ray and Ed and maybe Suggs have to say.

[CalvinSmoke]

No one quit. lve been in those situations. theyre just ticked off, and anger NEVER translates well in a sport. determination and purpose, not anger

[Ragin'Raven]

If they play in their first play-off game like they've played the last three weeks, then yes, I'd say they quit on the head coach recently. But it all depends on if this dismal play continues and doesn't get any better in January.

[bMore Heathen]

They may have, we will never know. He supposedly stopped a mutiny earlier this year, so his rah rah antics might be getting old.
Here's one question though... What the (profanity deleted) was Suggs doing out on the field? He was doing absolutely nothing to help this team win and could have got himself hurt even worse. What kind of coach lets him stay out there using 1 arm? Sometimes healthy back ups are better then hurt stars.

[SideStep77]

I'd start to wonder too if my coach kept challenging plays that were obvious and did not require challenges or maybe the poor clock management with 3 timeouts left. Harbaugh has not impressed me recently, I don't doubt some of the players are wondering the same thing.

That being said, I don't necessarily think they are quitting on him because they play for each other and themselves as a chance for glory and money (Ya know playing for contracts). It would be unwise to quit on your coach. However it might be wise to sometimes question him when it is needed.

[Moderator 2]

Suggs was calling the D assignments

[Twistidfunk]

Maybe.

I do think Harbaugh looks scared and worried.....maybe he feels like he is losing the team?

I thought we had a close team so I would not question that.

[H8R]

Nope, they haven't quit.. and if some have, they shouldn't be on the team.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

I thought just the opposite. We fought hard to the end IMO, just dug ourselves too deep into a hole, and the injuries showed in the run defense during the second half.

[T3hRaven]

Whether they've quit on Harbaugh or not, I have a feeling Andy Reid will be coaching in Baltimore next season.

[display name]

[quote name='Raving_Heathen' timestamp='1355701188' post='1265548']
This team has never been Harbaugh's. It's always been Ray Lewis and Ed Reed's team.

I still don't know what John Harbaugh brings to the table or why anyone (particularly future HoFers) would respect him as a HC or respect what he has to say. He's had the incredible luxury of inheriting a team with tremendous defensive talent and has ridden the coat tails of success. Now that the team is in seeming free-fall, we'll see what kind of coaching he can really do. A good start would be for him to stop wasting valuable 2nd half TOs with incredibly stupid challenges.
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Yeah he's a great motivational coach, but he doesn't know how to coach on the sidelines or make tough decisions.
I have a feeling it was Ozzie with the offseason genius, not so much Harbs.

[display name]

Unfortunetely, we made the playoffs so Harbs won't get fired yet. Plus he'll use the injuries as an excuse.