I Want Tyrod Taylor!

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355708468' post='1266146']
misplaced? lol! preseasons and camps? so that means what? that in a actual FULL game as a starter (somewhere else) he couldn't get it done? i don't by that man!



and...after 5 years as the starting QB for the Ravens....Flacco still has to learn how to read defenses accurately (i.e. that INT vs the broncos) and to hit receivers in stride. c'mon Mhead66. lol! imo, Tyrod needs to be on another team (i.e. a struggling Jaguars or Cardinals etc.) so that he can get the "opportunity" to shine.


great point! but to me i am not advocating whether or not Tyrod is "better" than Joe Flacco. i say...release Tyrod and set him free. cause IF he is as horrible as you cats in here keep mentioning (which to me he isn't), why not release him? i don't understand what the argument about that could possibly be. let the man go so that his QB abilities can be further developed and cultivated as "the guy" by another team that can use him.



true! i know this already. we are discussing. lol! but, IF Tyrod is that horrible even as a backup QB (as say some in here are saying) again...why not get someone else in here and release the man so that he can have an opportunity to further his nfl career as a starter in this league for a team that could definitely use his services?

~Mili
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Because he's a good back up, in his 2nd year and knows the system. It's good to have mobile back ups. You can run more with that sort of wild cat option. He knows the system.

[The Raven]

[quote name='PurpleCityLights' timestamp='1355708639' post='1266162']
And Flacco looks better?
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Well... hell yeah he does...

[mhead66]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355709036' post='1266197']
and once again....with that being said...why not release him? that is all many of you keep saying about Tyrod's game and yet....no one but me is saying release him and let him go ball somewhere else. interesting! lol!

~Mili
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Well, Mili, you can enjoy the debate with people here, whether TT will ever succeed in the NFL or not... and I DO admire your loyalty to him, cause you've watched him for years, but...

The Ravens will never release him, just to give him "a shot" to start on another team. Never going to happen. The Ravens are not in the business of providing young athletes with opportunities to show their talents. The Ravens are in the business of trying to win Super Bowls, so if they judge TT as their best backup, for now, he will stay there, while they have a contract with him. They will NOT release him, to give him a shot on another team... like I said, the Ravens' FO is not interested in his long-term happiness, they're interested in winning, now.

It is what it is.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1355709412' post='1266224']
@ Mili
Name a couple teams that you feel he could or would start on right now.

Short lists I'm sure will include: Cardinals, Jets, Bills (maybe Fitzpatrick is throws too many INTs ), Vikings ( Ponder hasn't been great but not sure if Taylor would do any better ) jaguars ( but Henne has played really well for them) , Chiefs, raiders ( Palmer is garbage )

Chiefs & Cardinals are the worst qb situations in the league IMO.

I don't have a problem with Tyrod Taylor, other than the fact that beat my Hurricanes in college a lot.

But other than the little preseason action I'm not sure what would give another NFL team the thought that he could start and lead their team. Usually a backup QB would have at least stepped in and performed well in limited duty so that another team offers him a contract.
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you make great points about the backup stepping in and performing well in limited duty but you will not see that with Tyrod backing up Flacco. even when Joe plays like trash....Harb's won't pull him for Tyrod. i get that! i don't want that. let him go some where else. as far as the teams that i can see him on? you mentioned them brah! i can definitely see him running the Raiders (all of that speed out there like his), Cardinals, Bills or the Chiefs. the Jets? naw! i wouldn't want my boy to go there. lol!

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1355709500' post='1266230']
Because he's a good back up, in his 2nd year and knows the system. It's good to have mobile back ups. [b]You can run more with that sort of wild cat option. He knows the system.[/b]
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and when have our offense used Tyrod in this capacity? very, very little. let him gooooooo! lol!

~Mili

[jdynamite]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355709036' post='1266197']


and once again....with that being said...why not release him? that is all many of you keep saying about Tyrod's game and yet....no one but me is saying release him and let him go ball somewhere else. interesting! lol!

~Mili
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Until he plays and proves to be either bad r good in the regular season he simply a high drafted backup asset. I mean its not like we are the Dolphins drafted Pat white had an experiment failed then cut the guy. He was drafted to be a backup.

Rather than release him I'd just let him play out his rookie deal, and if some team feels compelled to have him trade him in the offseason.

I was all for Troy Smith playing back in the day but I just never felt that way about Tyrod not even in college.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1355709851' post='1266256']
Well, Mili, you can enjoy the debate with people here, whether TT will ever succeed in the NFL or not... and I DO admire your loyalty to him, cause you've watched him for years, but...

The Ravens will never release him, just to give him "a shot" to start on another team. Never going to happen. [u][i][b]The Ravens are not in the business of providing young athletes with opportunities to show their talents. [/b][/i][/u] The Ravens are in the business of trying to win Super Bowls, so if they judge TT as their best backup, for now, he will stay there, while they have a contract with him. They will NOT release him, to give him a shot on another team... like I said, the Ravens' FO is not interested in his long-term happiness, they're interested in winning, now.

It is what it is.
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don't get to technical in the convo Mhead66. lol! i already know about the contracts, the Ravens need for a backup QB that knows the system and what they are trying to accomplish now etc, etc, etc. lol! i'm talking in general brah. IF Tyrod is that bad....even as a backup (as many of you keep saying) and will never start in this league....why not advocate for his dismissal? again, i don't want him to take Joe's place as the original poster mentioned. i never said that! but, IF he is as horrible as many of you cats keep saying...the Ravens need to release him and let him go cause one teams trash is another teams treasure!

~Mili

[display name]

[quote name='acosta2277' timestamp='1355690597' post='1264462']
Joe Flacco is a disgrace to the game of football. He might be worse then Mark Sanchez. And we need him to step off the field and give Tyrod a chance to make some plays. Its time for Flacco to put up or shut up.
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1 more week of this debacle. 1 more, and I'll join you.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1355710183' post='1266277']
Until he plays and proves to be either bad r good in the regular season he simply a high drafted backup asset. I mean its not like we are the Dolphins drafted Pat white had an experiment failed then cut the guy. He was drafted to be a backup.

[u][i][b]Rather than release him I'd just let him play out his rookie deal, and if some team feels compelled to have him trade him in the offseason.[/b][/i][/u]

I was all for Troy Smith playing back in the day but I just never felt that way about Tyrod not even in college.
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well, when i say "release" him...a trade is in that equation. lol! just let the man go somewhere else to play is my point! but, i agree with you saying he was drafted to be a backup. my problem with the Ravens usage of Tyrod is that when Joe is struggling...the don't let Tyrod "back-him-up!" lol!

~Mili

[heapitup247]

Being a Virginia Tech student and personally watching a ton of tyrod, I can say that I unfortunately don't see him as the answer. He was just a superior athlete in college, which he isn't anymore in the NFL. HIs mental aspect of the game was never there in college which is what scares me throwing him out there on Sunday.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='PurpleCityLights' timestamp='1355708639' post='1266162']


And Flacco looks better?
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Flacco has his moments of pure stupidity and moments of being a good QB. But plenty of QBs have these moments although I don't feel Flacco is their level as a passer. But Eli manning plenty of bonehead games , Rivers and Brees have been forcing picks all year.

Flacco to me falls in the Jay Cutler & Tony Romo category. He can have good game and he can have a complete melt down. But it's not like he is anemic like Sanchez, Ponder, Cassel, ( any Cardinals QB).

Today his turnovers really screwed up the momentum in the game.

[mhead66]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355710245' post='1266283']
don't get to technical in the convo Mhead66. lol! i already know about the contracts, the Ravens need for a backup QB that knows the system and what they are trying to accomplish now etc, etc, etc. lol! i'm talking in general brah. IF Tyrod is that bad....even as a backup (as many of you keep saying) and will never start in this league....why not advocate for his dismissal? again, i don't want him to take Joe's place as the original poster mentioned. i never said that! but, IF he is as horrible as many of you cats keep saying...the Ravens need to release him and let him go cause one teams trash is another teams treasure!

~Mili
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Lol Mili, I don't think anyone here is saying Taylor is so horrible that he should be released... that's your fantasy, that the Ravens' FO releases him, so he magically finds a team to start for.... No, no one wants to see him released, he's a backup, and the only backup QB we currently have. It's just that no one (at least recently, in this thread) thinks he's the answer for the Ravens' QB problems...

[jdynamite]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355710406' post='1266296']


well, when i say "release" him...a trade is in that equation. lol! just let the man go somewhere else to play is my point! but, i agree with you saying he was drafted to be a backup. my problem with the Ravens usage of Tyrod is that when Joe is struggling...the don't let Tyrod "back-him-up!" lol!

~Mili
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Not many teams do put their backup in when the Starter is struggling. Jim Harbaugh did it because he drafted Kapernick last season with thoughts of him starting and the team posted a great Record with Smith being a game manager but up until last season Alex smith only had 1 other season that he played average in ( when Norv Turner was his coordinator ).
Other than that its usually some struggling below .500 team that randomly puts the backup in when the starter is struggling lol.

Makes me think of Doug Flutie in buffalo and San Diego lol. Start shuffling QBs

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1355711200' post='1266360']
Lol Mili, [u][b]I don't think anyone here is saying Taylor is so horrible that he should be released[/b][/u]... [u][b]t[b]h[/b]at's your fantasy, that the Ravens' FO releases him, so he magically finds a team to start for[/b][/u].... No, no one wants to see him released, he's a backup, and the only backup QB we currently have. It's just that no one (at least recently, in this thread) thinks he's the answer for the Ravens' QB problems...
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no! no one is saying to release him but me cause imo, i believe that he could help a struggling team in need of a QB.

~Mili

[TonyTone1192]

[quote name='acosta2277' timestamp='1355690597' post='1264462']
Joe Flacco is a disgrace to the game of football. He might be worse then Mark Sanchez. And we need him to step off the field and give Tyrod a chance to make some plays. Its time for Flacco to put up or shut up.
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Woo take a step back please. Lol Did you forget that Joe outplayed future hall of famer Tom Brady ON THE ROAD in the AFC championship game?? Or did you forget that he nearly took us to the superbowl but a dropped pass in the endzone and a missed 32 yard field goal prohibited that. Which one of those two did you forget?

[Gordo52]

[quote name='stopsizzle555' timestamp='1355701035' post='1265536']
first of all, tyrod cant start in this league. he was a decent college qb at best. just because you've followed him since hs doesn't mean he's anything special.
second, the ravens aren't just going to say "o were going to let tyrod go because we want to give him a chance to play somewhere else and possibly be good" we are doing whats best for the ravens. no individual
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I honestly rather take Tyrod over Sanchez, Cards QBs, and probably maybe Nick Foles. But I agree with your second point

[TonyTone1192]

EASY, EASY, EASY!!

Relax on the Tyrod chants PLEASE! Yes Flacco hasn't been playing up to standard as of late. But he is a good not great but good QB. He's better than; Elvis Gerbac, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Blake, Anthony Wright, Chris Redman, Troy Smith and let's not forget Kyle Boller.
I think we all expected him this season to prove that he is an ELITE qb and since he hasn't shown that some of you want him gone, you set the bar to high and due to the fact that he hasn't reached it some of you think he can't play. HOLD ON!
He can still play, we JUST changed offensive coordinators so give our offense time to adjust. Yes he does have a habit of giving it away but until we have a LOSING record under Joe and missed out on the playoffs for consecutive season you guys have NO REASON to call for any other QB.
Human nature: When you have something good you're always looking for something better. You might lose that "good something" and have no appropriate replacement.
Be patient.

[hawkprey]

A more naive me would've tried to argue the point of the rational. Today's me can only laugh!

[ghost1986]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355697409' post='1265243']
then as i've been stating Ghost...the Ravens need to release him. i want to see him get an opportunity somewhere else and in a system that perhaps, the team would or could create around him to cater to his strengths like the skins did RG3. i believe that other teams would give him a chance. hell, IF the Jets can take tebow then surely, my boy Tyrod can go somewhere else to shine. lol!

~Mili
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Oh yeah I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you. I'd like to see him get another chance somewhere too. I do think he's better than Troy Smith too. I really think Cam Cameron had a lot of say in picking Tyrod. And unfortunately, I think he did it to use him for gimmick plays.

[Moderator 2]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1355718260' post='1266866']
A more naive me would've tried to argue the point of the rational. Today's me can only laugh!
[/quote]And drink lol I actually bought 2 adult beverages in the stadium--totally out of character smh

[ghost1986]

[quote name='TonyTone1192' timestamp='1355714942' post='1266634']
EASY, EASY, EASY!!

Relax on the Tyrod chants PLEASE! Yes Flacco hasn't been playing up to standard as of late. But he is a good not great but good QB. He's better than; Elvis Gerbac, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Blake, Anthony Wright, Chris Redman, Troy Smith and let's not forget Kyle Boller.
I think we all expected him this season to prove that he is an ELITE qb and since he hasn't shown that some of you want him gone, you set the bar to high and due to the fact that he hasn't reached it some of you think he can't play. HOLD ON!
He can still play, we JUST changed offensive coordinators so give our offense time to adjust. Yes he does have a habit of giving it away but until we have a LOSING record under Joe and missed out on the playoffs for consecutive season you guys have NO REASON to call for any other QB.
Human nature: When you have something good you're always looking for something better. You might lose that "good something" and have no appropriate replacement.
Be patient.
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Don't forget Kordell Stewart.

[i82much]

The only thing I've seen today dumber than Joe's pick 6 is this thread.

[H8R]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355710406' post='1266296']


well, when i say "release" him...a trade is in that equation. lol! just let the man go somewhere else to play is my point! but, i agree with you saying he was drafted to be a backup. my problem with the Ravens usage of Tyrod is that when Joe is struggling...the don't let Tyrod "back-him-up!" lol!

~Mili
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The Ravens don't owe him anything. In fact, he could sit on the bench for the rest of his career and I wouldn't care. I have a good hunch on why Tyrod is "your boy"

[Alexir]

Has Tyrod shown anything? Just because Flacco is slumping doesn't mean Tyrod is the answer. We don't say bench Reed for Considine because Ed can't tackle.

[i82much]

Look. On some level, we're spoiled. Been going to the playoffs every year and we take it for granted. I think you have to stick with Joe this year and hope we catch fire - you are still in the dance, even if things look bad.

I mean look at it this way. Assume in August the Orioles had said, you know what? Yeah maybe we're going to make the playoffs, but we're not good enough to win the World Series, so we're calling up a couple of guys from double A and putting them in the rotation. You'd say What the heck???!!! It's not your best chance to win.

Flacco is hardly impressing me these days, but I cannot see how anybody could think Taylor gives us our best chance at a run for the Super Bowl. If for no other reason than Flacco having more reps in the offense and with the guys we have.

[Free Agent]

[quote name='bmore187' timestamp='1355708224' post='1266122']
Im not sold on Matt Flynn
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He couldnt win the Seahawks starting job, so that certainly says something. He'd just be Kevin Kolb 2.0.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1355719000' post='1266927']
The Ravens don't owe him anything. In fact, he could sit on the bench for the rest of his career and I wouldn't care. I have a good hunch on why Tyrod is "your boy"
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you have a good hunch why Tyrod is my boy? you should! i made no secret that he's from my area here in VA and that i have followed his football career since his H.S. days and VT days. we all know what he is capable of. IF he is as bad as most in here keep saying he is...why keep him as our backup? let the man go! what he can't do and be for the Ravens he could possibly be and do that for another team.

~Mili

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355721213' post='1267102']
you have a good hunch why Tyrod is my boy? you should! i made no secret that he's from my area here in VA and that i have followed his football career since his H.S. days and VT days. we all know what he is capable of. IF he is as bad as most in here keep saying he is...why keep him as our backup? let the man go! what he can't do and be for the Ravens he could possibly be and do that for another team.

~Mili
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If you've followed his career and know what he's capable of then you should know that he was a terribly inaccurate passer, in college! He ranked in the bottom for completion percentage. I'm with you though. I think we need a more capable back-up because with the crappy O line we keep on fielding, Flacco is bound to get hurt. I do not want to be in a position where our season relies on Tyrod.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='acosta2277' timestamp='1355690597' post='1264462']
Joe Flacco is a disgrace to the game of football. He might be worse then Mark Sanchez. And we need him to step off the field and give Tyrod a chance to make some plays. Its time for Flacco to put up or shut up.
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YOU want to be the scout, Joe is a scouters dream. Great tools, but our coaches ruined him...

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1355695899' post='1265101']
wonderboy? i kinda like that but i'm a grown [profanity deleted] man! but seriously....where in my post did i say that YOU specifically said that i asked for Tyrod to replace Joe? i was making a statement to validate my point of "RELEASING" Tyrod from the Ravens to go play for another team. and i thought that was obvious. SMH! here is what is interesting. the OP stated that he wanted Tyrod over Joe. and all i did was say that i want Tyrod released from the Ravens and yet, you're trying to argue over that? and all of the "smh's"...that's not you...it's more like me so let me show you how it's done....SMH! lol!

~Mili
[/quote]lmao

[frozen joe flacco fan]

[quote name='acosta2277' timestamp='1355690597' post='1264462']
Joe Flacco is a disgrace to the game of football. He might be worse then Mark Sanchez. And we need him to step off the field and give Tyrod a chance to make some plays. Its time for Flacco to put up or shut up.
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Your post is a disgrace! Did you watch Mark Sanchez last night? Jets O-line is supposed to be better than ours. End of discussion.