Ravens Vs Giants

[atcsraven]

I think the Ravens can win. Our D will stand up very well on the ground but the NY passing game concerns me. This game will be decided by our secondary and pass rush effectiveness. After we deny the run, passing will be their only means of attack. Its gonna be close game either way. We will definitely need to go vertical.

[flynismo]

Everyone keeps focusing on us stopping their run, what about our passing game? I have great confidence in Flacco, but not so much in our OT's. If our protection doesn't hold up, our receivers don't get open, and Flacco takes a sack. Now, we did a great job of negating Mario Williams last week while still getting Heap involved, so hopefully we will do the same this week. If we do, I think the Gmen will be in for a long afternoon. All comes down to our offensive line and our secondary.

[Slyde]

[quote name='flynismo' post='89245' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:00 PM']Everyone keeps focusing on us stopping their run, what about our passing game? I have great confidence in Flacco, but not so much in our OT's. If our protection doesn't hold up, our receivers don't get open, and Flacco takes a sack. Now, we did a great job of negating Mario Williams last week while still getting Heap involved, so hopefully we will do the same this week. If we do, I think the Gmen will be in for a long afternoon. All comes down to our offensive line and our secondary.[/quote]

If that happens, yes, I could see trouble for the G-men.

[march4superbowl]

It all depends on getting pressure on Eli Manning and getting some turnovers. If we can keep thier offense from putting up points Flacco and co. will put this out of reach in the 3rd quarter. my prediction: 34-13 Ravens on top and finally get credit around the league for beating a slightly over-rated team.

[Slyde]

[quote name='march4superbowl' post='89263' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:53 PM']It all depends on getting pressure on Eli Manning and getting some turnovers. If we can keep thier offense from putting up points Flacco and co. will put this out of reach in the 3rd quarter. my prediction: 34-13 Ravens on top and finally get credit around the league for beating a slightly over-rated team. [/quote]

34-13? Slightly over-rated team? How can you over-rate the current champs? I don't get it.

[Sharick88]

[quote name='march4superbowl' post='89263' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:53 PM']It all depends on getting pressure on Eli Manning and getting some turnovers. If we can keep thier offense from putting up points Flacco and co. will put this out of reach in the 3rd quarter. my prediction: 34-13 Ravens on top and finally get credit around the league for beating a slightly over-rated team. [/quote]

Slightly overrated? I truly don't understand how a defending champion could be overrated. Anyways, I think your score prediction is insane. I think the the score will be in the teens, regardless of who the winner is. I do know that most sane giants fans know that this game is gonna be extremely physical and the team that has the least turnovers will win this game. 34-13? You can't be serious

[Sharick88]

[quote name='Slyde' post='89271' date='Nov 13 2008, 02:04 PM']34-13? Slightly over-rated team? How can you over-rate the current champs? I don't get it.[/quote]

These boards are eerily similar to the Eagles' boards, aren't they? Well the format is at least

[Sharick88]

[quote name='Shadowalker' post='89188' date='Nov 13 2008, 10:12 AM']No but I believe you gave up 84 yards to Moore??!?!?!?!

In that game Jacobs and Ward had 47 and 37 yards. I mean come on?!?![/quote]

A ton of Moore's yards came on one TD run. He got bottled up the rest of the game pretty much. As far as our running game was concerned in that game, it wasn't working. But we kept at it to make them respect it. Also, we won the game. There is no such thing as an ugly win.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='march4superbowl' post='89263' date='Nov 13 2008, 01:53 PM']It all depends on getting pressure on Eli Manning and getting some turnovers. If we can keep thier offense from putting up points Flacco and co. will put this out of reach in the 3rd quarter. my prediction: 34-13 Ravens on top and finally get credit around the league for beating a slightly over-rated team. [/quote]

I'm not saying that it's impossible for the Ravens to prevail 34-13, but to call the Giants over-rated(even slighty is a bit much). Make no mistake about it, if the Ravens can go into that stadium and win this game it will be against a very good team.

As far as getting credit, i mean who cares really? If the media wants to sleep on the Ravens then fine, but it doesn't really affect this team one way or the other. They will come to play week in and week out. Even if we win this game in dominate fashion all it will prove is that for one Sunday we were able to take it to the defending Champs. Now on to the next test in Philly.

And another thing. Why would anyone want to be viewed upon as the best team by the national media. Dating all the way back to 2000, the most popular(so called best) teams has never won the Super Bowl. Need proof?

So Called Best SB Champs

(00) Titans Ravens
(01) Rams Pats
(02) Oak Bucs
(03) Indy Pats
(04) Pitt(15-1) Pats
(05) NE/Indy Pitt
(06) NE Indy
(07) NE NYG

and the thing about each eventual SB Champ is somewhere along the way of the season they faced their lowest point. Bal(no TD's in 6 weeks) Pats(lost starting QB) Bucs(needing to get pass Phi) Pitt(6-5 before going on a run) Indy(giving up 300+ rushing yards late in season) NYG(Eli almost ran out of town 20 ints). The point i'm making is that the media doesn't always know best. They have opinions just like all of us. Sometimes they are right, but most times they are wrong. If by chance the Ravens are holding that SB trophy at the end of the season they will all drop to their knees and blow Harbaugh, Ray, Flacco and company like that end up doing for any team that wins it all.

[funky141]

[quote]I'm not saying that it's impossible for the Ravens to prevail 34-13, but to call the Giants over-rated(even slighty is a bit much). Make no mistake about it, if the Ravens can go into that stadium and win this game it will be against a very good team.[/quote]

If the Ravens score 34 pts in New York I will be impressed....

[AlphaThug9]

Our offense will struggle unless we establish our running game early. Joe Flacco has played great in recent weeks against bad defensive teams but this is the Giants (the #2 defense against the pass). Not to be negative but I see Flacco having a game like he had against the Colts. Our defense will play great against the run like always but Eli is a good QB. And with our secondary banged up I am worried we will have a hard time against the pass. But with all that said if we win the turnover battle I see us coming away with the win in a close one.


Ravens-17
Giants-13


Flacco-16/25 174YDS 0TD 1INT
McGahee-14ATT 76YDS 2TD
Mason-7REC 64YDS


Manning-19/28 213YDS 1TD 2INT
Jacobs-12ATT 46YDS
Burress- 5REC 89YDS 1TD

[bossman419]

The D def needs to force Eli to look like the Eli of the past. Turnovers are a necessity. Is it me or is Antwan Barnes not playing as much on 3 down pass rush situations?

Ravens 17
Giants 14

But, I wouldn't be surprised if this game turns out just like the Colts game.

[Tiz]

[quote name='thewarden86' post='89054' date='Nov 12 2008, 07:57 PM']I didn't pick up on any fear from any of them. I think they may be undersestimating the Raven's Run D, but I also think you guys may be underestimating Eli. Everybody likes to pick him apart because he quiet, but..... I think at the end of the year, no one has a better shot at the last laugh..., No one.[/quote]

Eli is playing well and I think NYG would be foolish to rely on him instead of their ground game no matter how good our run defense is. I do think if they get in 3rd and long too often we'll have a chance to remind Eli of the Cleveland game...

[flynismo]

[quote name='bossman419' post='89326' date='Nov 13 2008, 05:39 PM']Turnovers are a necessity.[/quote]

With Eli on one side and a rookie QB on the other, I'm sure one of those two guys are going to throw 3 picks this week.

[quote]But, I wouldn't be surprised if this game turns out just like the Colts game.[/quote]


I would. The Giants offense is nowhere near as good as Indy's when Peyton & Harrison/Wayne are hot like they were against us.
They are the SB champs, yes, but honestly I'm a lot more worried about their defense than Eli.

[Slyde]

[quote name='AlphaThug9' post='89314' date='Nov 13 2008, 04:43 PM']Our offense will struggle unless we establish our running game early. Joe Flacco has played great in recent weeks against bad defensive teams but this is the Giants (the #2 defense against the pass). Not to be negative but I see Flacco having a game like he had against the Colts. Our defense will play great against the run like always but Eli is a good QB. And with our secondary banged up I am worried we will have a hard time against the pass. But with all that said if we win the turnover battle I see us coming away with the win in a close one.


Ravens-17
Giants-13


Flacco-16/25 174YDS 0TD 1INT
McGahee-14ATT 76YDS 2TD
Mason-7REC 64YDS


Manning-19/28 213YDS 1TD 2INT
Jacobs-12ATT 46YDS
Burress- 5REC 89YDS 1TD[/quote]

Do you really believe that McGahee will have better stats than Jacobs? Also, are you predicting that the Giants miss an extra point? Since you list 2 TD's and only 13 points. Maybe the Giants don't have #1 against the Run, but they currently are #7 and only a few yards more given up a game then you guys.

[Slyde]

[quote name='flynismo' post='89435' date='Nov 14 2008, 04:11 AM']I would. The Giants offense is nowhere near as good as Indy's when Peyton & Harrison/Wayne are hot like they were against us.
They are the SB champs, yes, but honestly I'm a lot more worried about their defense than Eli.[/quote]

I hope your team thinks the same.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Slyde' post='89441' date='Nov 14 2008, 07:56 AM']I hope your team thinks the same. [/quote]

I don't think the same. I'm a bit worried about Eli. Because I know if we are to lose this game, it will come down to Eli. Either he will, or he won't. The Giants defense is playing great, and I worry about them too. Especially against our young OL. It should be interesting to watch, in terms of OL development.

I do believe that we will do enough to stop the Giants run offense. So in my eyes, Eli is the main threat. Especially in the second and third options (Smith & Toomer).

[Slyde]

[quote name='PuRock' post='89446' date='Nov 14 2008, 09:04 AM']I don't think the same. I'm a bit worried about Eli. Because I know if we are to lose this game, it will come down to Eli. Either he will, or he won't. The Giants defense is playing great, and I worry about them too. Especially against our young OL. It should be interesting to watch, in terms of OL development.

I do believe that we will do enough to stop the Giants run offense. So in my eyes, Eli is the main threat. Especially in the second and third options (Smith & Toomer).[/quote]

Very possible my friend. With the way Flacco has been playing, the Ravens aren't 1 dimensional either. So both teams can put points up. Just which D is able to stop the big plays.

[uhhhh]

Here in the Netherlands, we have a channel that broadcasts only North American sports called NASN and everytime they broadcast a Ravens game they lose. So I'm not very optimistic about this game.

I can also be that when I watch a Ravens game on that channel that I am jinxing them, and I watched all of the games they showed. To be sure I'm not gonna watch the game and hope that they win.

[JonM229]

If I had to be completely unbiased in my prediction, I'm going to go with:

Ravens 124
Giants -3

That's an objective prediction if I've ever seen one.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='JonM229' post='89482' date='Nov 14 2008, 12:34 PM']If I had to be completely unbiased in my prediction, I'm going to go with:

Ravens 124
Giants -3

That's an objective prediction if I've ever seen one.[/quote]

C'mon Jon. Give the Ravens SOME credit will ya? They're YOUR team for cryin out loud..., show a little faith.

[Sub-Zero]

what, no shutout? bull!

[PuRock]

[quote name='JonM229' post='89482' date='Nov 14 2008, 12:34 PM']If I had to be completely unbiased in my prediction, I'm going to go with:

Ravens 124
Giants -3

That's an objective prediction if I've ever seen one.[/quote]

It's because the Giants line up to kick a field goal. The Ravens insert Flacco on special teams. Flacco uses his big bird wings to hop over the OL. Then kicks the football the opposite direction before the Giants Kicker even winds up. The kick sails and is good for 86 yards in the opposite direction!

The Refs huddle, they have never seen this. They interpet the rule book to say that this should be -3 points against the Giants. 'Nuff said.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Slyde' post='89440' date='Nov 14 2008, 07:56 AM']Do you really believe that McGahee will have better stats than Jacobs? Also, are you predicting that the Giants miss an extra point? Since you list 2 TD's and only 13 points. Maybe the Giants don't have #1 against the Run, but they currently are #7 and only a few yards more given up a game then you guys.[/quote]

Slyde i'm sure you will have much more insight on this then me because you watch the Giants weekly. It seems to me that you guys are giving up about 4 yards a carry and the reason teams haven't really run on you guys was because they are forced to come from behind. Not so much because of the way you guys play the run. It doesn't seem like you guys have faced a team that is willing to run the ball more then 25 times a game, and the few teams that did stick to the run had a little better success against you guys. There has only been 2 teams that has rushed more then 25 times Cleveland and Cincy. Those 2 teams combined to rush 57 times-246 yards-4.3 ypc, as a outsider who doesn't watch this team every week i would say those are pretty good numbers. Now i'm sure there were a couple of long runs to *** the totals but from the looks of it they had great succes agianst your run defense.

Now it is no surprise that those two games where your toughest. Another thing i noticed was in those 2 guys but QBs had great success moving the ball against your defense and i'm guessing it has a direct relation with playaction. Also i noticed in the Cle game that you guys had NO sacks, and they seemed to be able to attack your secondary. So my point to all of this is to ask you this. As good as the numbers are for your defense, were this two games just case of your team not showing up, or do u think that this number hold some weight? Did your defense seem to get tired late in these games? Or did Cle and Cincy just do a hellva job gameplanning your guys?

[PuRock]

Here's a interesting Fact.

The Ravens & Giants are the only two teams without a kick-off return of longer than 35 yards.

I guess that means a lot more longer TD drives by both sides. One team has to earn the field position in this defensive battle.

[FerrariFan87]

It'll be closer than some people may think... While I am hoping for a Ravens' victory, I am by no means expecting one.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='PuRock' post='89507' date='Nov 14 2008, 02:41 PM']Here's a interesting Fact.

The Ravens & Giants are the only two teams without a kick-off return of longer than 35 yards.

I guess that means a lot more longer TD drives by both sides. One team has to earn the field position in this defensive battle.[/quote]

That stat would be different if the Ravens could cut down on ST penalties

[nextgen_RavensFan]

I have been thinking about this game for about 3 weeks now. I think if we can "not" give up too many big plays by the cornerbacks which happens often then we will hold a very good chance. We get burned time and time again by passing teams. I know we have pro bowl corners but for every interception they get they allow numerous big plays down field. I read a line on the fox sports site when i was catching up via phone internet and they said "to run against the ravens this season is illegal". <--- I loved that. That said, as long as we keep it under control "Plaxico" then we will win by a touchdown or more. If they start to pass on us early then we are through.

[rayvenfan_52]

Heres 1 thing I will do during the game.

If 1 of their WRs burn our secondary and I see a deep ball Im gonna be praying he drops it.

[AlphaThug9]

[quote name='Slyde' post='89440' date='Nov 14 2008, 08:56 AM']Do you really believe that McGahee will have better stats than Jacobs? Also, are you predicting that the Giants miss an extra point? Since you list 2 TD's and only 13 points. Maybe the Giants don't have #1 against the Run, but they currently are #7 and only a few yards more given up a game then you guys.[/quote]

I Have 2 TDS listed because if Eli throws one someone has to catch it.