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Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil are one of the top pass-rushing tandems in the NFL.

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Blind side !! Can Von Miller & Dumbervil get by Oher or Osemele with Leach helping out? How do those to measure up to Kruger&............................................who?
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Jarrett. This article is a classic fill in the blank article. Insert any QB here, any left Tackle there and it will describe almost every NFL team. You can do better man!
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Anyone mention Upshaw? If only Pernell McPhee was healthy. If only Kindle didn't tumble down those stairs. Is Suggs going on a honeymoon?
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Jarret? He's on IR with bolts. Would McKinnie help stop Miller? Our pass rush is very average as is our offesive game plan.
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Well then fellows, Granny has a briliant idea ...

Why don't we all just come together and be great then?

And there is your answer ... Granny knows best!
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Von Miller has "Dominated" RT's this year, we have a Rookie RT that struggles in pass protection, I See Von on Kelechi and Dumervill on Oher..
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Cary Williams has allowed 67 percent of the passes thrown in his direction to be caught for 785 yards and five touchdowns.Is that what you want out of your starting CB? we need to focus more on our Defense, not offense
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But you guys also arent remembering that Oher handled Demarcus Ware to just 1 tackle for a loss and K.O. has done better than expected this year, anthony spencer the other great cowboys OLB was also stopped, K.O. did well with woodley too
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The Broncos are our toughest opponents since the Patriots-game. Here's why I think sio:

- They've got an elite, vastly experienced QB who's in great form and has been great against us;

- They've got a rather balanced D that's in the top six iagainst both the run and the pass, top 6 in overall D;

- They've got a top 4 O. they only "weaker" point of their team is their run game - especially since McGahee is out. But we can all remember the Cowboys-game, where the weakest running team produced a 200-yard-plus game against us...

- They're 5-2 on the road;

- They're on an eight-game winning streak.

That's not gonna be a walk in the park, in any sense.

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Yes we have defensive woes but there is nothing we can do until our starters on D get healthy. For a change, lets get the offense to do the job of winning the game. Could you imagine if our offense gets as good as our D was last year? With Lewis, Suggs, and Reed - our D will be back.
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Oher is going to get beat. Slide him to right tackle and put Big Mac in at left. If Yanda can't go then try out Bobbie Williams. If Joe isn't standing then we will be losing.
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The broncos havent played nobody! The Ravens put up 20pts against the #1 defense and denver isnt #1! The Ravens have Too Many Weapons!
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I really like that quote from Matt Birk he's a intelligent team oriented guy to bad more fans can't think like that instead of putting the blame all on one person but whatever if Birk runs for office he's got my vote wonder what party he is
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[quote name='Purple Dawg 96' timestamp='1355609990' post='1261653']
The broncos havent played nobody! The Ravens put up 20pts against the #1 defense and denver isnt #1! The Ravens have Too Many Weapons!
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the Broncos actually have played quite a few good teams...but lost lol
but the proper term is anybody (sorry double negatives are one of my pet peeves)
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[quote name='D3x3001' timestamp='1355608507' post='1261632']
Oher is going to get beat. Slide him to right tackle and put Big Mac in at left. If Yanda can't go then try out Bobbie Williams. If Joe isn't standing then we will be losing.
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what makes you think that a out of shape 360 lb. 33 year old left tackle that has always struggled against speed rushers will do better than the younger lighter more agile and faster Oher
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[quote name='jrs034' timestamp='1355610667' post='1261661']
what makes you think that a out of shape 360 lb. 33 year old left tackle that has always struggled against speed rushers will do better than the younger lighter more agile and faster Oher
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I guess they hope they will spend more time trying to get around that big body than it would be trust flying past Oher. Either way it sounds like the need to run at these pass rushers to get them on their heels and screen them to death also. Anything more than a 5 step drop will be trouble for Joe Cool.
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[quote name='jrs034' timestamp='1355610667' post='1261661']
what makes you think that a out of shape 360 lb. 33 year old left tackle that has always struggled against speed rushers will do better than the younger lighter more agile and faster Oher
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Maybe because McKinnie was "supposedly" out of shape last year yet he was our 18 game starter and did one heck of job. Oher has constantly given up pressure in almost every single game and when he's not getting torched KO is. These last 2 losses have ALOT to do with Oher giving up 2 strip sack fumbles. If he couldn't contain Skins pass rushers and an aging James Harrison then Von Miller will have him for lunch. Harbaugh has really cost us with this terrible and I mean terrible decision to bench McKinnie. I'm usually on board with the moves Ravens make but I haven't been with this one. Oher is a good RT but average at best at LT. If you cant see that then IDK what games you've been watching
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Let me state a simple mathematical fact here:

Joe Flacco's pocket awareness is inversely proportional to the quality of the opposing side's pass rush!

So, please run the ball every chance you get for us to have a chance!
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Nice of Birk to try and cover for Average Joe's lack of pocket awareness. Birk is and has always been a stand up guy. Nice try, Matt.
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Hold on. Let me FIX OHER'S real Qoute ---- Oher said about Miller and Dumervil. They Are fast, have a lot of moves and they WILL get the job done AGAINST ME, I won' even touch them, let alone block--- Unquote

Yea , that sounds about right, We definitely need Mckinnie back in a bad way. Harbs. needs to let his pride go with this one. It might cost us our QB and he will be out because of a Broke Back getting hurt from behind as much as he does.
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[quote name='jrs034' timestamp='1355610667' post='1261661']
what makes you think that a out of shape 360 lb. 33 year old left tackle that has always struggled against speed rushers will[b] do better than the younger lighter more agile and faster Oher
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Easy, He couldn't do any worse. Thats for sure. Oher is a joke on the LEFT, he cost us our last two losses. Out of shape or not, he still light yrs ahead of Oher. The Ravens arn't trying to pay MCKINNIE because if he has enough playing time, they have to give him his bonus which is a little over a million dollars.
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EllicotRaven:Let me state a simple mathematical fact here:

Joe Flacco's pocket awareness is inversely proportional to the quality of the opposing side's pass rush!

So, please run the ball every chance you get for us to have a chance!
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I take that to mean that it all depends on the skills of the defense; there's nothing we, as an offensive line can do on any given week. If they're good (Denver is) then we're gonna get sacked and strip/sacked all game long, until they're tired enough.

-Nice to hear all the trust in our o-line. I, too, want to see Mac out there at LT. Oher might cost us the game with a sack or worse, and prob. good for a false start or two, as well.......ugh what troubles.
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[quote name='jrs034' timestamp='1355610667' post='1261661']
what makes you think that a out of shape 360 lb. 33 year old left tackle that has always struggled against speed rushers will do better than the younger lighter more agile and faster Oher
[/quote]Have you seen how big he is? All McKinnie has to do is lean on Von Miller and he'll drive him into the ground. That's what he did with people last year. If he just shifts his stance he'll be fine. Honestly I'd trust him over Oher at this point.
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I think our O-line will shock some people today, with a little help with quicker plays being called.
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WELL, there goes my enthusiasm! :-)
Unless Pees has something special dialed up this week, Oher is going to get killed!
Having said that, we better see Joe's head on a swivel. If he's improving, that will need to happen today. WE ALL KNOW that, Oher is going to get beat a few times today as will Osemele. I hope someone reminded Joe of that too. We can make their pass rush work against them if we can get Joe up to par with the "Elite" QB's he wants to become.
Here's hoping he gets it now!
GO RAVENS!!!
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The key is "Small Ball",... game control and runs and swing, short passes to slow the rush!
If we keep running off Tackle for 3 yards coupled with Joe E-Lite's usual drop and wait for an open Receiver on 3rd and 6,... oh, man :-(

Get creative,.... Find a way!

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P.S. C'mon, Dallas!
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Although not very relevant to the opponen't pass rush prowess it kind of ties into what I am about to say:

The 2 things Flacco needs to improve and work on are his football IQ and pocket awareness. Both these issues are kind of interlinked in my view. Now this is 5 years in the league for Flacco with one offensive coordinator and system to work with and grasp. Period. If he hasn't gotten better in these 2 critical areas up to now, I don't feel optimistic it will change now that we fired Cam! I really don't.

The coaches and the front office surely recognize this, and that is the reason they haven't pursued Flacco's contract with gusto. Does Flacco have the ability to win us a SB. Yes, but only if the rest of the offensive team and defense is playing at a very high level, and Flacco is not asked to win games for us. Flacco is not elite right now nor will he be unless he improves on those two fronts. Now will that ever happen is what I am unsure of. But, Flacco is a QB that can do enough for us to have a winning record for the foreseeable future. However, I would be very very careful to lock up top 5 or even top 10 money in him at this point.
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[quote name='DMAC' timestamp='1355613495' post='1261717']
Maybe because McKinnie was "supposedly" out of shape last year yet he was our 18 game starter and did one heck of job. Oher has constantly given up pressure in almost every single game and when he's not getting torched KO is. These last 2 losses have ALOT to do with Oher giving up 2 strip sack fumbles. If he couldn't contain Skins pass rushers and an aging James Harrison then Von Miller will have him for lunch. Harbaugh has really cost us with this terrible and I mean terrible decision to bench McKinnie. I'm usually on board with the moves Ravens make but I haven't been with this one. Oher is a good RT but average at best at LT. If you cant see that then IDK what games you've been watching
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lol whatever you say if you think a fat slow tackle that has always been vulnerable to the speed rush will do better against Von Miller (speed rusher) than Oher will your crazy I'm not saying Oher is a great LT but at this point in McKinnies career he's the better option
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[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1355628509' post='1261859']
Easy, He couldn't do any worse. Thats for sure. Oher is a joke on the LEFT, he cost us our last two losses. Out of shape or not, he still light yrs ahead of Oher. The Ravens arn't trying to pay MCKINNIE because if he has enough playing time, they have to give him his bonus which is a little over a million dollars.
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actually it could be allot worse and it would be if McKinnie is playing McKinnie is horrible against speed he has been since he was a rookie when he was younger and much lighter and no one person loses a game yeah they were big plays but there were allot of other times when there were dropped balls and constant 3 and outs and I'm 99% sure its not the money if it was they would of cut him along time ago
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[quote name='D3x3001' timestamp='1355637283' post='1261917']
Have you seen how big he is? All McKinnie has to do is lean on Von Miller and he'll drive him into the ground. That's what he did with people last year. If he just shifts his stance he'll be fine. Honestly I'd trust him over Oher at this point.
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lol I'm not sure thats how it works
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[quote name='jrs034' timestamp='1355678899' post='1262107']
lol whatever you say if you think a fat slow tackle that has always been vulnerable to the speed rush will do better against Von Miller (speed rusher) than Oher will your crazy I'm not saying Oher is a great LT but at this point in McKinnies career he's the better option
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I sure hope your right because Oher hasn't showed me anything at LT to date
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