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Slim

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Hello everyone, I am one of those who say that Ray Lewis, even though he lost a step, still can lead the defense to great accomplishements and can make big plays with his experience, work ethic on and off the field and desire to win.

And If there is something we needed against the redskins' pistol offense last sunday and Manning's offense this week, it sure is a play recognition master, I think Ray does that pretty well.

I chose two plays I wanted to share with you from last sunday where our Inside Linebackers were very late which led to the defense giving up some big plays (On 280 yards passing, we gave up 150 down the middle, usually between our inside LB's and our safeties where the space I thought was too big) Hopefully they'll do a better job this week against Peyton Manning who I think has the best play action fake in the game.

1st play

Looked like we were lining up in a sort of cover 4 with our Nickel back Graham in man to man with the slot receiver Santana Moss, Ayanbadejo and McClain at ILB's
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As the play goes and RG3 executes his play action, the two LB's are attacking the run which is understandable but watch Corey Graham looking at the ball, at this moment, Moss knows he's going to take advantage since the three of them are going to leave the middle of the field opened.
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Now Graham knows its PASS, so do Jameel and Brendon who are trying to get back to their middle zone pass reads, Graham is going give up this play because he paid too much attention the play action.
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2nd play

On this play, another play action, this time the full back is going to run a streak between the ILB's. On defense looked like a cover 3 with Corners and Reed covering the deep, McLellan and Pollard covering flat curl zones and Bynes and McClain on short middle pass reads
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This time again, the play action worked out pretty well and as they haven't re-attacked yet, the fullback is almost on the same line.
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He had two steps on Bynes at the end, easy completion, Reed made the tackle.
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From this angle
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Ed is so deep we don't see him on this picture, but Garçon is one fast man...
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Last play

This play is the pass to Garçon that RG3 made on one leg, I was very surprised by the space between the Linebackers and the secondary when the pass was thrown (2nd picture). But I have to give him credit for throwing it on one leg between 4 defenders...
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No one left in Cary's zone, could've helped his safety and stick with Garçon
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I trust this team so bad, and I'm sure we'll get things fixed for the playoffs, but the LB's played a little poorly last week that's why it is my concern for this weekend. I hope all of you guys are doing great ! Have a great end of the week !!! Oh here's a little bonus :-) this is the failed 3rd down conv in overtime where Joe took 3 yards scrambling.

Rice was wide open !
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GO RAVENS !

I apologize again, I hope the page isn't too slow to load with all the pictures, I try not to put too much so it's easier for you guys to read.

Slim.
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Another great post, Slim.

Another way Ray can help and something Mod 2 has pointed out all week is that Ray Lewis was screaming out "Screen!" on the sidelines before our D, apparently oblivious, got wrecked by it.
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Hey man, have you sent your resume to the Ravens yet ?

Great post AGAIN.
Rays knowledge is what keeps him in the game.
Wile he was super quick and hit real hard, lots of people can do that. His football IQ is what has this 37 year old still highl effective on the field.
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I love these. I know alot about football but I always learn something new from one of your breakdowns lol. It's really helping me understand some things better, so thanks!

And no doubt will our defense play smarter when Rays playing. Also more intense/motivated.
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People like to criticize the scheme for those "wide open" guys "uncovered" in the middle of the field, but I think it's apparent through this analysis that once again, personnel is the problem, not the scheme.

Damn, our linebackers suck in coverage. We need Ellerbe back.
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Slim Joes passed the los there. He can no longer pass forward.

It's clear the defense was told to key in on play action. be different this week though.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1355473051' post='1260707']
Slim Joes passed the los there. He can no longer pass forward.

It's clear the defense was told to key in on play action. be different this week though.
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It was 3rd and 6 at Baltimore 29 yards line, on the picture looks to me Flacco is around the 23 and Rice just crossed the 25. Joe could've passed forward. but hey, it's not easy to see for Joe I guess, he ran out of the pocket like he was chased by tigers and probably thought he was chased from behind at this moment.

Have a great day

Slim
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[quote name='Slim' timestamp='1355474597' post='1260710']

It was 3rd and 6 at Baltimore 29 yards line, on the picture looks to me Flacco is around the 23 and Rice just crossed the 25. Joe could've passed forward. but hey, it's not easy to see for Joe I guess, he ran out of the pocket like he was chased by tigers and probably thought he was chased from behind at this moment.

Have a great day

Slim
[/quote]he'd still get flagged being ahead of los. They may huddle and over rule the flag but if they don't you can't blame them uno cause he was ahead of the line.

What that pic shows more is how badly beat the line was. They are all 5 6 yards behind original los.
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[quote name='Slim' timestamp='1355474597' post='1260710']

It was 3rd and 6 at Baltimore 29 yards line, on the picture looks to me Flacco is around the 23 and Rice just crossed the 25. Joe could've passed forward. but hey, it's not easy to see for Joe I guess, he ran out of the pocket like he was chased by tigers and probably thought he was chased from behind at this moment.

Have a great day

Slim
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1355483322' post='1260717']
he'd still get flagged being ahead of los. They may huddle and over rule the flag but if they don't you can't blame them uno cause he was ahead of the line.

What that pic shows more is how badly beat the line was. They are all 5 6 yards behind original los.
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I remember this play. Even though it looks as though RR was open, Joe had already committed to running and the D was pursuing. A little deceiving.

The previous panes are an excellent illustration of just how much Ray/Ellerbe are needed. Ray's insight and abilities to read plays far outweigh any liabilities due to declining physical tools. Ellerbe has really grasped the challenge, performed well and has provided an excellent alternative. With both down we were left in deep poo.

I know it's a far reach, but if Ray plays this week it may just provide enough of an improvement to get some stops when needed. Not some huge turn around, but at least be there to provide the needed leadership. Heck, with Ellerbe out I'd feel better if Ray were just standing in the middle of the field wearing street clothes directing the D. We really can't expect much going to a 3rd alternative on the depth chart. Not because of lack of football skills, but more so the intangibles and field generalship.
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Thanks Slim, nice post! With this defense so decimated, I am not sure how we can overcome the personel on the field right now. It is what we got. We can scheme all we want but if you don't have the players to run it, not sure what we can do.
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Ray has knowledge and motivational value, that's about it.
He was terrible at getting of blocks. Will he be an improvement? Maybe, but not by much.
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1355494440' post='1260742']
Ray has knowledge and motivational value, that's about it.
He was terrible at getting of blocks. Will he be an improvement? Maybe, but not by much.
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I respectfully disagree. With Ellerbe out Ray would be a HUGE improvement. Not much value in shedding blocks if your D as a whole is lost in their assignments.
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[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1355501919' post='1260829']
Anyone else think even a declining Ray Lewis would have nailed Cousins prior to the goal line on the 2 point conversion ?
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Great point ! I don't know if he would have nailed Cousins but Ray is so smart, he knows how to read linemen so well that he might have had reconized the play. I guess we'll never know :-)
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[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1355501919' post='1260829']
Anyone else think even a declining Ray Lewis would have nailed Cousins prior to the goal line on the 2 point conversion ?
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Definitely. Can only imagine how he felt watching that play.
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[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1355501919' post='1260829']
Anyone else think even a declining Ray Lewis would have nailed Cousins prior to the goal line on the 2 point conversion ?
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I have little doubt that he would have crushed him short of the goal line.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1355451030' post='1260613']
Damn, our linebackers suck in coverage. We need Ellerbe back.
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This.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1355508687' post='1260917']
I have little doubt that he would have crushed him short of the goal line.
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Kinda like Sproles a few years ago.
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[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1355537383' post='1261244']


Kinda like Sproles a few years ago.
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Yep . I have never seen Ray let a QB run up the middle and not get punished .

He would have prevented that 2 point conversion and sent that scrub Cousins
back to the sidelines .
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