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#1 T3hRaven

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:08 AM

T3hRaven’s Mock Offseason 1.0

I’m interested to see the reception to this mock. With the exception of the draft, in which I did try to analyze needs and assign picks based on scouting reports that are extremely premature, I was ruthless and did some things that probably won’t be popular. Take comfort in the fact that I am not the GM, just an outside observer with a different football philosophy than this Front Office. Your favorite players will probably still be here because this team tries to have its cake and eat it too.

Going briefly over my thoughts for the direction to take in the off-season, our biggest need in my book is the offensive line. We’re about to invest in a quarterback, and you can call an OL insurance on that investment. Flacco, while he does have mobility, is a pocket passing quarterback who needs solid protection on the blind side that he’s simply not being afforded right now, in addition to better protection from other spots on the line. KO should continue to progress, and even now I believe he’s serviceable at RT, however, the ideal scenario would be getting him in a guard next season and getting Oher at RT for his last year, bringing in a real LT.

The rest of the draft is on the defense then, IMO. I don’t think the defense is as bad off as it appears right now. We need a new DC and a different scheme to be sure, and with as horrid as the rankings of this defense are I expect we’ll get one. Having Suggs and Webb back is going to make a difference next year. This leaves DL help, either at the 5-tech or NT, as the second biggest need followed by ILB and FS. I think we need pass rush help too in addition to some cornerback depth. Personally I would use this opportunity to make the transition back to the better defensive scheme in the 4-3, but I don’t think that’s going to happen so I won’t project my mock as such.

Mock Free Agency:

With incoming revenue deals taking shape, the new salary cap for next year should be around $125 million, giving the Ravens approximately $20 million in cap space since contracts for next year are just past $105 currently. Some of it needs to be saved for rookies, obviously, and if Flacco is tagged most of that is going to him.

Notable Departures:
Anquan Boldin – He needs to be cut or traded. I would miss his production, especially if the next offensive coordinator utilizes him correctly in the slot, but we simply can’t afford him. He has the third highest cap hit right now of the players under contract for next year. Cutting him would free up $6 million in cap space. With some promising young prospects at receiver, we need that money elsewhere. This one is hard because I don’t know how good our prospects are, but the NFL is a cruel business.

Ed Reed – He’s been out of position way too much this season, which has been a big reason for this defenses struggles. At his age he lacks the recovery speed to make up for it like he used to, and it has caused this defense to get burned way too much this season. And that’s despite the fact that he’s been scared to tackle. His injury issues have caught up to him, and we simply can’t afford to pay him the millions he’s going to want. I’d rather he retire, but the sad fact of the matter is it’s time to move on from the future Hall of Famer. I hate to say it, I really do, but I truly believe he’s been a liability this season.

Cary Williams – How this dude was talked about for the Pro Bowl I don’t know. He’s a major coverage liability, and probably thinks he deserves more than that contract he was offered earlier. He didn’t deserve that one either, IMO, so he’s gone.

Paul Kruger – time to try to develop another situational pass rusher. We’ve seen Kruger’s ceiling and it’s fairly low, and a few good moments don’t make up for all the bad when Suggs was out and he was starting. The guys behind Suggs in the rotation should be developed to one day take over for the getting older man, just in case Upshaw doesn’t develop that pass rush we desperately need. I don’t want to invest Kruger.

Sergio Kindle – Give up guys, his career is over.

Ray Lewis – He’ll enter retirement hopefully. I don’t know if he has the physical ability to be effective without a quality ILB next to him, which we don’t have right now, but his days as the primary ILB in a 3-4 are sadly done. Come back as a coach Ray, but don’t be another All-Pro that refuses to acknowledge when it’s time to hang up the pads. This
nets us $5.4 million in cap space (wow, Ray Lewis is overpaid).

Dannell Ellerbe – It’s time to move on. He’s shown some improvement this season, but he’s not a long term answer.

Matt Birk – Anytime we play a good NT he gets blown up. It’s time for Birk to hang up the pads. This nets up $2.75 million in cap space.

Which gives us a raw cap space estimate of $34.15 million. The $14.5 million freed up through Boldin, Birk, and Lewis essentially pays for Flacco next season, leaving roughly $20 million to play with. Personally I would try to drop some more room by trading Ray Rice. You simply cannot afford to pay a QB like Flacco and a RB like Rice on the same team, and getting him elsewhere could net useful assets we desperately need while freeing up his $5.75 million cap hit. If the coaching staff thinks Pierce can go they have to consider it. Should a new OC come about next season and Flacco performs the way we all hope he can, I imagine they’ll have a hard time justifying keeping Rice with the other issues the team is going to have. Jacoby Jones could also be a cap casualty next season since cutting him would free up $3 million, or you could swap him for Boldin. I think one of them goes, but for this scenario I’m using Boldin. Bobbie Williams is not that bad of a backup guy to have for the price, and cutting him only nets $1.2 million so I did not cut him in this scenario.

I just felt the need to point out that I’ve actually done rough estimates on the math and I’m not going off on a wild spending spree like some people. Technically speaking, we would have the money to sign Jake Long, but it’d be a tight squeeze on the cap. He’s also coming off a down year where he struggled before getting injured, which is a serious concern. If we can get him for around $8 million on a shorter term deal I would do it, but I didn’t for this scenario.

Re-signings:
Joe Flacco – Unless he’s tagged, I think we get a discount since his season has been inconsistent, albeit decent. Still, not what I would qualify as an elite showing. If he’s smart, could justify taking a pay cut to bring in a real LT. I’m guessing he gets something along the lines of $12-15 million a year.

Dennis Pitta – Reliable target, and hopefully doesn’t cost much because his stats aren’t that incredible compared to other TEs and he’s rather old for his experience level.

Ed Dickson – RFA essentially means he’s under contract. Otherwise I’d dump him.

Art Jones – RFA and has shown some progression at five-tech. If that continues we still need him.

Ramon Harewood – I’m not convinced he exists anymore, but he is an ERFA.

Morgan Cox – Just for completions sake.

Those last players will be fairly cheap due to their statuses. I believe we would still have about $18 million to play with in Free Agency.

Free Agents:
Brenden Albert, LT – I’m guessing many of you haven’t heard of him, but he’s quietly become a top 10 LT in the league. He currently ranks 9th on PFF’s pass blocking efficiency rankings, and it’s hard to get much better than him outside Thomas, Clady, and Ferguson. If the Chiefs don’t tag him, I say pounce on him since he’s a bit under the radar and we might be able to lock him for a fairly reasonable price. A LT is worth paying big money to, and I’d rather invest is someone that actually understands the concepts of pass protection than a scrub like Oher next off-season. I think he’d come to a winning team for $8-9 million a year, so I’ll err on the side of caution and go $9 (leaving about $4-5 million to play with when you account for draft picks).

Dan Koppen, C – Veteran depth on the OL that could be cheap. Denver might re-sign him to protect Manning though.

Randy Moss, WR – He’s behaved for Jim and I think this gets him another chance in the league for a year or two. If you look at the numbers, while Moss hasn’t been putting up monster numbers he still has high average yards per catch. For a cheap deep threat who adds a veteran back to the WR core who has been known to help the younger guys, I think this is a pretty good move.

I’m hoping there’s some OLB, DL (5-tech or NT), or DB depth that I’m not seeing. I’d use the rest of the cap space on that.

Mock Draft:

It's probably still a bit early to start doing a mock. Most underclassman haven't declared their status yet, there's still scouting reports to read, but I guess here's as good a first shot as any.

Round 1: Barrett Jones OT/OG/C, Alabama – This guy might be our best shot at left tackle outside of free agency, having won the Outland Trophy as an LT in the SEC last year before moving to center this year. That drops his stock, since he’s going to be evaluated more as an interior lineman, dropping him into our pick range. Even if he can’t play that position, Jones can play any of the other four spots on the line and has tremendous scheme versatility. I’m not sure Gradkowski is the answer at center, and if he is we need a real replacement for Grubbs. You have to love the versatility in the pick. Jones has solid technique, is very smart which is how good lineman should be (he was working on his masters this season). He’s had success pass blocking in SEC on the blind side, and that’s about as good of a representation of one’s skills as you can ask for. Textbook fundamentals make up for his lower athleticism (not that it’s bad, just not as flashy as some of his teammates), and that’s what you want if this team decides to continue zone blocking. It’s not about raw strength, it’s about using the right technique and being in the right spot to make the play. Regardless, Jones is one of my favorite guys in the draft and I think he’s underrated. He’s not going to be a JO, he lacks that physical blessing, but he could be our Matt Light and that’s all you need really. In summary, there is a spot on the offensive line somewhere that this guy can fill, and that’s our area of biggest need in my book, especially if we can't nab a real LT.

Round 2: Kawan Short, DT, Purdue – My question on him is where to line him up. He’s probably big enough to play NT, but Ngata would also do well there and Short could line up at DE. Either way, Short provides some needed pass rush from the DL. I’m confident that Ngata, Short, and Jones are an improvement on the current line. I think with coaching and time he could become a great five-tech. He turns it on and off it seems sometimes, which I believe is what people said about Ngata coming out of college. His size and speed make him worth the risk, and I think he can be coached up.

Round 3: Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia – drug issues are a big time concern for the league right now so I think he’s gonna drop a bit. He has obvious playmaking talent and good instincts though. While not as consistent as I would like, but I think he could hold the position down, and at a much cheaper price than Ed Reed.

Round 4: Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford – Aggressive and plays in a 3-4 right now. Character concerns drop him at least here, but we might need to trade up a bit to get him. I worry about him matching up against TEs, but he does defend the run and apply pass rush well enough to grab him here. Does need to wrap up better and work on block shedding at times.

Round 5: Michael Buchanon, DE/OLB, Illinois – situational pass rusher who is great at speed rushing. Needs to develop pass rush moves, some character concerns drop him here. Good length, maybe a little undersized. Replaces Kindle as the speed rush prospect.

Round 6: Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinatti – Decent pass catching stats. Worth the risk here.

Round 7: Melvin White, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette – gigantic CB. Small school prospect who could be a late contributor. With Cary leaving and my faith in Jimmy shaken, this could be a decent depth pick with upside.

Wow, that was way more verbose that I thought it was. It's a good portion of my thought process in writing, but I apologize for the length.

Edited by T3hRaven, 17 December 2012 - 03:10 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:54 AM

I know you spat on my thread but I quite like this. I like the aggressive philosophy and am an advocate. Brandon Albert should be known by everyone who posts here. I'd sign him. I'm also team pierce and think trading rice is a good idea, 2 second round picks. But it won't happen.

I think Kruger should stay, he's good at rushing the passer and Upshaw can play on run downs. Since you're clearly a member of PFF this is corroborated.

I thought Jones would be a bit high here. I'd take him if we traded down. Short would be great value there. I'm not sure how much I trust Skov. I'd rather Jackson or Brown. Can this Kelce kid block? There are better corners I believe who we should get. Slay and Okoro look to be like winners.

Also, wasn't Kindle cut? Or was he resigned to PS?

Overall, good read mate.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:45 AM

I know you spat on my thread but I quite like this. I like the aggressive philosophy and am an advocate. Brandon Albert should be known by everyone who posts here. I'd sign him. I'm also team pierce and think trading rice is a good idea, 2 second round picks. But it won't happen.

I think Kruger should stay, he's good at rushing the passer and Upshaw can play on run downs. Since you're clearly a member of PFF this is corroborated.

I thought Jones would be a bit high here. I'd take him if we traded down. Short would be great value there. I'm not sure how much I trust Skov. I'd rather Jackson or Brown. Can this Kelce kid block? There are better corners I believe who we should get. Slay and Okoro look to be like winners.

Also, wasn't Kindle cut? Or was he resigned to PS?

Overall, good read mate.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:30 PM

I like a lot of things about this mock. I think some things are spot on and others won't happen. It's possible Reed & Lewis retire, but I can't see us cutting him. You don't cut Ray Lewis. I know, Peyton Manning. I just can't see it happen. I also think we can afford Ed because his play has been subpar. He's lost value. He tests FA but I think he returns. As for Kruger, I think we re-sign him. It's our MO. Williams walks. I think we keep Ellerbe & cut McClain. Draft some LBs.

Now, onto the things I liked the most. I like the idea of trading Boldin (possible) & Ray Rice (unlikely). I love Rice & Boldin. They're good players. The problem is Boldin's production is outweighed by his price. Rice was just signed and is a home-run hitter. I like Pierce, Rainey a lot and I am comfortable with that backfield. Draft Lattimore and we're good to go.

I'm not fond of the mock, though.

Ps. I also like Albert.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

dead on with albert. i was planning on putting him in my mock too. i never really considered jones as a LT but it makes sense.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:23 PM

I agree for the most part with the offseason moves. I would love to target Jake Long, but the Dolphins probably wont let him go and he is out of our price range anyways. Same thing with Ryan Clady so Brandon Albert makes a lot of sense. The one thing I would strongly disagree with is moving on from Paul Kruger. He has really come one this year as a pass-rusher, and I would be very concerned about what our defense would look like without him, even if Suggs comes back 100%. Randy Moss is not an option to me. He is old and washed up. If we go after a WR in free agency it should be a younger guy with upside that can grow with the offense, like a Jacoby Jones. Two players I would specifically target are Lance Moore and Danario Alexander. Moore is a very talented player who can play in the slot or outside. He's a great route runner, has great hands, and also possesses good speed. Alexander is a big tall guy with decent speed and excellent ball skills. He is a lot like a poor-man's Vincent Jackson and could probably get even better if he can stay healthy (which has been his main issue in his young career).

As for the draft, I dont like Barrett Jones in the first round at all. I dont see him as a LT in the NFL, he has some experience playing OT, but he is much more suited for an interior line position. I like Short and Rambo, but I think we need to get another pass-rusher and more importantly an athletic ILB. We have serious issues covering the middle of the field and I'm not sure Skov is the answer.

Just one other thing regarding Ray Rice. He does make a lot of money, but he is a very productive player once again on pace for 1,200+ rushing yards and probably close to 600 receiving yards and 10 TDs. We can debate all day about the value of a RB in today's NFL but Rice is one of the best in the business, especially considering his value added in the passing game. The other thing to consider is his contract was very heavily fronloaded with a 15M dollar signing bonus so even if he was traded the team would still be saddled with quite a large cap hit. It's not going to happen.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:37 PM

I think Kruger should stay, he's good at rushing the passer and Upshaw can play on run downs. Since you're clearly a member of PFF this is corroborated.

I thought Jones would be a bit high here. I'd take him if we traded down. Short would be great value there. I'm not sure how much I trust Skov. I'd rather Jackson or Brown. Can this Kelce kid block? There are better corners I believe who we should get. Slay and Okoro look to be like winners.


My reasoning on Kruger isn't about his usefulness. As a third down, situational pass rusher he has value. I just don't think we have the money for him, I think he's going to ask more than you might think, especially if he hits that double digit sack total.

I think Skov is a bit more ready. Kelce seems like can catch, which is more than Dickson can consistently say. I don't think a blocking TE is worthwhile in today's league. In the seventh I'm drafting him for size, potential, and athleticism.

I like a lot of things about this mock. I think some things are spot on and others won't happen. It's possible Reed & Lewis retire, but I can't see us cutting him. You don't cut Ray Lewis. I know, Peyton Manning. I just can't see it happen. I also think we can afford Ed because his play has been subpar. He's lost value. He tests FA but I think he returns. As for Kruger, I think we re-sign him. It's our MO. Williams walks. I think we keep Ellerbe & cut McClain. Draft some LBs.


It's horrible to say cut Ray Lewis, which is why I hope he retires. This team needs that money, his contract is killing us at this point. No player is above the organization. You have to cut Ray Lewis in this situation, it's not like he's going to play for someone else anyway.

dead on with albert. i was planning on putting him in my mock too. i never really considered jones as a LT but it makes sense.


I'm hoping other teams haven't either. Jones is only 6'4" which isn't ideal, but his is a dead on technician. Like I said, I think he could be our Matt Light. If we got Albert I might reevaluate, but on a draft position of roughly 24 Jones is the BPA that fills a need and makes a legitimate impact next season IMO. I really would want Sheldon Richardson from Missouri to play 5-tech, and shift Ngata to NT, but I just don't see him being there for us. And I don't see any legitimate LT prospects later in the draft, but again if we can nab Albert that frees that need up.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

Agree for the most part.
Except that trading ray rice would be dumb, considering the contract we just gave him last off season. and there is no way skov falls to the fourth round with the raw talent that he has.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

Agree for the most part.
Except that trading ray rice would be dumb, considering the contract we just gave him last off season. and there is no way skov falls to the fourth round with the raw talent that he has.


There are some character concerns on Skov, it's not out of the question. I'd like to think we'd have a 3rd round comp pick as well considering all we lost, but I'm not gonna assume until we know.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

I think Lewis and Kruger come back. We are definitely keeping Ellerbe and I don't know about Reed. I think Ed plays for us or he retires. I think Boldin might be gone and if he is I think we need to get a receiver at least for some depth(not Moss). We are NOT trading Rice. Albert would be a really solid singing. I like the Jones pick because of his amazing versatility and I think he would be a solid starter for us at the least. I want a NT in the first couple rounds, but I dont know if it is Short or not. I haven't really watched him play that much yet. I like the Rambo pick a lot and I don't think Skov lasts till our 4th round pick. The rest is decent.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:10 AM

I think Lewis and Kruger come back. We are definitely keeping Ellerbe and I don't know about Reed. I think Ed plays for us or he retires. I think Boldin might be gone and if he is I think we need to get a receiver at least for some depth(not Moss). We are NOT trading Rice. Albert would be a really solid singing. I like the Jones pick because of his amazing versatility and I think he would be a solid starter for us at the least. I want a NT in the first couple rounds, but I dont know if it is Short or not. I haven't really watched him play that much yet. I like the Rambo pick a lot and I don't think Skov lasts till our 4th round pick. The rest is decent.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

I don't like the idea of cutting Boldin but I do understand the logic behind it, having a young receiver step up big could be what our offense needs (except for o-line help)

But cutting Kruger to me would be a big mistake he is starting to step up big.

Letting go of reed is definately a hard pill to swallow.

Your re-signs are right on the button I love the potential in Pitta and Art Jones.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:00 PM

I love this mock but there are two problems with it

1. It will never happen. The front office wont let go of Reed or Lewis

2. It leaves the team very green and with little to no veteran presence. Suggs and Ngata and Pollard would be the defensive vets and on offense it would only be Flacco and Rice. As you saw with the o line this year it will leave us very weak and vulnerable until and if these guys ever develop.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 10:03 PM

I honestly don't think Barret Jones won't drop that far in the first round. A LT will solve all of our olineTeams need O linemen, he's versatile which can make his draft stock rise. Personally id go all defense in the draft and pick up free agents on the offensive side. I mean a 2000 raven team won the Super Bowl right?
1) Dion Jordan - reminds me so much of Aldon Smith. I think he could play OLB
2) Kwann Short - need D line help
3) Baccari Rambo - this guy has always been in the right place and right time
4) Arthur Brown - undersized but major potential
5) Michael Buchanon
6) Melvin White-safe pick even though I think Correy Graham can still develop
7) Does it really matter? lol
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:58 AM

1. It will never happen. The front office wont let go of Reed or Lewis

2. It leaves the team very green and with little to no veteran presence. Suggs and Ngata and Pollard would be the defensive vets and on offense it would only be Flacco and Rice. As you saw with the o line this year it will leave us very weak and vulnerable until and if these guys ever develop.


I think my cuts are more likely than not because the FO doesn't really have a choice. We can't afford to re-sign Reed and Lewis is way to expensive to keep. Maybe Lewis stays if he's foolish enough to stick around for another season, but I'd put money on Reed not being here next season.

As for being green, I don't see that as a big deal. You pointed out we still have vets who can serve as leaders. There's nothing wrong with fostering young talent. As for OL veterans, signing Albert would alleviate that concern. I don't think veteran leadership was the issue this year anyway, as Yanda and Birk were both there and plenty of young OL players produce.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:22 AM

I think my cuts are more likely than not because the FO doesn't really have a choice. We can't afford to re-sign Reed and Lewis is way to expensive to keep. Maybe Lewis stays if he's foolish enough to stick around for another season, but I'd put money on Reed not being here next season.

As for being green, I don't see that as a big deal. You pointed out we still have vets who can serve as leaders. There's nothing wrong with fostering young talent. As for OL veterans, signing Albert would alleviate that concern. I don't think veteran leadership was the issue this year anyway, as Yanda and Birk were both there and plenty of young OL players produce.


Someone has to do it. We've seen franchises in the past couple of years completely clean house and are now severe threats. Cough, Seahawkes.
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