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The same that we have been running. Don't expect any wholesale changes. The biggest impact this change will have is on the situational play-calling.

We might see different plays called more often and maybe the no-huddle.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1355161871' post='1255852']
The same that we have been running. Don't expect any wholesale changes. The biggest impact this change will have is on the situational play-calling.
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I do hope he makes better halftime adjustments and keeps his foot on the gas no matter what the score. We need an impact that will wake us up and i hope Caldwell can provide that spark. Then we can move onto getting rid of Pees during the off season.
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It will be the same play book, just dfferent calls will be made (Or atleast I hope). I expect that he'll no-huddle a lot more often. Also i expect his passing plays to be quicker in terms of shorter routes.
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[font=comic sans ms, cursive]This is about time, now we can see what Joe can do. Albeit there is only three games left, these are the type of games that bring the best out in you. Now only if we could do something with Oher.[/font]
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Since he has never been the play caller I do not expect significant changes this season. The potential even exists for some regretion initially. This is a long term fix, not a short term.
I expect bigger and better things next year.
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[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' timestamp='1355162017' post='1255864']
I do hope he makes better halftime adjustments and keeps his foot on the gas no matter what the score. We need an impact that will wake us up and i hope Caldwell can provide that spark. Then we can move onto getting rid of Pees during the off season.
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I am not completely disagreeing about Pees, but he did inherit a defense that was butchered by the salary cap and had a key injury. And then he had to deal with additional key injuries all season. If he stays, I will not be heartbroken. I am going to be giddy for a while anyway since CAM IS FIRED.
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Yeah you can't change an offensive playbook at this point in time. It takes a whole off-season to implement an offensive system. The best we can hope for is that the good plays are there and Cam just never used them, or just better play-calling.
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What happens to if Joes play gets worse. Who do we blame then. Will it be Caldwell now that he is taking over. Caldwell knows football he has been in the game for a while. He coached in college before the NFL... and he offense was mostly a passing offense... Flacco will love to hear that... we have three more games and hopefully a run in the playoffs to see who is at fault. Caldwell is a smart guy... but if we lose at least 2 of three we have to realize its Flacco who leads the offense that's the problem and not just the coaches.
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[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1355163851' post='1255976']
What happens to if Joes play gets worse. Who do we blame then. Will it be Caldwell now that he is taking over. Caldwell knows football he has been in the game for a while. He coached in college before the NFL... and he offense was mostly a passing offense... Flacco will love to hear that... we have three more games and hopefully a run in the playoffs to see who is at fault. Caldwell is a smart guy... but if we lose at least 2 of three we have to realize its Flacco who leads the offense that's the problem and not just the coaches.
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Honestly, success by our offense wont prove anyting more then a continuation of bad play from the offense. The playbook will be the same, the calls will be different.
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He'll have to run the same system, and if he does good and stays at OC for next year, then he might revamp it in the offseason.

I expect that he'll add a couple different plays every week. My prediction is we'll run more, try more short throws, and use more play action. I'm very excited but also a tad nervous.
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Three games this late in the season will not tell us much, well unless the team just does a 180 and we start scoring 30+ points a game. THAT would say something, but, as I expect, if we continue much like we have, well, you need more than just the end of the season to judge anything. I figure there will be better adjustments and a more contemporary overall game. Still, we cannot expect miracles. We can hope for them, just not expect them.
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not really at terms with this, will just have to wait and see how it plays out, hope all good for the sake of us all
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[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1355163851' post='1255976']
What happens to if Joes play gets worse. Who do we blame then.
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We blame Joe, that simple.
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I wanna keep Caldwell no matter what happens as our QB coach. If he can be the OC we need then great. I've seen fundamental improvements in Joe's game but it sure as hell doesn't help him when there are several drops per games (these are catchable passes).
I'm fine with the Air Coryell but someone like Norv Turner does a much better job at it.
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Yeah, I dont expect sweeping changes. I do expect a bit more unpredictability and no huddle.

Who's Joes QB coach now.....Jim? He's got a lot on his plate now. Are they just letting Joe go coach-free for the time being?
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1355165261' post='1256045']


We blame Joe, that simple.
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But that's blasphemy here in these forums.
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I think Caldwell will be more of a game planner. I feel like I never see our team take advantage of other teams weaknesses. I just feel like Cam would try and run the ball against even the toughest of D-Lines, and throw into the toughest of secondaries. I think Caldwell will go with the vulnerabilities of the other defenses and gameplan around them. Like next week against denver, they have a stingy defense, however the raiders passed for 280 yards but struggled to run the ball. I think Denver will know we will try and run on them, so maybe Caldwell will come out passing? But then again maybe Caldwell will paly it safe and try and get ray Rice going. As far as play calling he will change it up more so than Cam did. Every time you see Cam calling plays on te sidelines you see him holding the playbook sheet over his mouth or whatever, as fans we know he doesnt call more than 5 diferent plays. I am hoping caldwell will change it up a little bit and try some different plays. I think caldwell will take it slow...but the biggest thing Iwant to see is how Flacco looks out on the field. Will he be calling more and more audibles and running the no huddle which brings him success? Or will it be just the same as usual? I guess we will find out. Jim Caldwell will be a good coordinator for th time being IMO
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Expect to see a offense catered to Flacco more. Caldwell may not be a play caller, but he's a heck of a offensive mind and he views the game through the QBs eyes imo.

I'm not sure how much influence Caldwell had on the Colts, but if he runs things anything like it, there will be much more play action, which is actually a strength of Flacco's.

Also Joe has become more and more vocal about the offense having it's most success while operating in the no huddle. With 2 of the next 3 games at home, i think the no huddle will be on full display.

I feel Jim has been around enough to atleast know the personnel of the offense. I think he has a good idea of what certain guys can do well and because he sits up in the booth, i think he's had a huge opportunity to kind of critic Cam's play calls from up close. Cam's offense wasn't all bad, he just seemed to lose focus on things that certain guys do well.

If my thinking is correct and Caldwell leans on his experiences from Indy, the offense will remain the same, but Caldwell will open it up more.

He knows the power of having a TE who is basically a WR creating mismatches against LBs/Safeties, so I expect to see Dickson and Pitta more involved controlling the middle of the field. He also knows how friendly the play action pass is for a QB and a guy like Joe could be special with it.

I see Joe having more freedom at the LOS and a emphasis on actually attacking defenses. I think all of this will help Rice even more, because the offense will be unpredictable. I really expect to see this offense go back to what it was over the first 3 games of the season.
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[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1355167529' post='1256165']
But that's blasphemy here in these forums.
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No, the stupid criticism he gets constantly is blasphemy around here
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I believe the thing that really needs to change is game planning, playcalling, and in-game adjustments. There is no way he can implement a new system. There will be shorter and quicker routes(finally) and probably more emphasis on the no-huddle to establish tempo and to get the offense going early in the game.

Yesterday,Cam was not aggresive enough(more play-action) and he did not adjust to the redskins blitzing. The empty set they ran that caused the sack-strip cost us from scoring.

Lets hope caldwell can do better and will use plays that dont expose the oline against von miller(yikes!).
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1355169300' post='1256256']
No, the stupid criticism he gets constantly is blasphemy around here
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Amen Fly. Amen.
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I don't know what the Flacco/Cameron relationship really was like, but I'd bet that Joe gets on better with Caldwell. So I would expect to see largely the same offense, tweaked slightly to make Joe more comfortable.
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If Caldwell uses the current playbook and is simply the game planner/play caller, are there enough plays in Cam's playbook geared towards our tallent on offense? If so, have those plays been practiced enough this year to expect the players to be able to execute smoothly this late in the season?
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i don't think much will change with the present offensive scheme. it is wise not to mess with it just yet due to the fact that this is what they've run all year long and only have 3 games left in the regular season and a playoff run. i believe that Caldwell will be wise enough to consult with Joe about the plays that he is most comfortable with and then script the offense around that. i see more no huddle cause Joe thrives in that.

~Mili
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