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Cam Cameron Fired

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saw it too [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/10/report-changes-coming-to-ravens-coaching-staff/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/10/report-changes-coming-to-ravens-coaching-staff/[/url]
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Yeah, Moeller or Pees could be on the chopping block. Both run the weakest units on our team and are costing us games. Change is needed before it's too late.
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Please Football Gods let me hear that Cam Cameron has excepted another OC positions in the Pop Warner Football League.
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It has to be Cam. Honestly I can't take another heartbreak after the last 2 games. I need something to celebrate and I've been waiting for his release for a loooong time.
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Wow.. I would actually be pleasantly surprised and happy if this happened..

Don't see Caldwell as a long term solution
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I also just heard this on 105.7

Cam Cameron would be the 1st to go IMO. I don't see how Pees is gone considering what has happened to our defense. It is basically a patchwork B team out there. I still don't like what he has done but maybe he can't do much considering the personnel. There is no aggression on this defense but I think we just don't have the talent to get off blocks. We can't tackle either so there is that too. Gotta be talent level.

I doubt anything happens at this point in the season but I would hope Cameron is gone.
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[quote name='Owenny' timestamp='1355150584' post='1255028']
PFT tweeted that their guess is Cam out and Jim Caldwell bumped up to OC.
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Even if we lost the rest of the year..I would LOVE to hear this news. I always said ABCC (Anyone But Cam Cameron)
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thought I'd be the last to say this but....I hope it isn't Cam....YET! Why replace a mediocre OC with another mediocre OC. The issue is the playbook along with the play calling. We need a total overhaul from this juvenile offence. Wait until the offseason to acquire an offensive mastermind like Norv. My money is on the O line coach, gives the team a scape goat for their poor play, and replacing a position coach is much easier to do than a coordinator at this point in the season.
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HAHAHA.... watch it not be coach at all but the guys who review the replays up in the booth who always get the call wrong and who I would like to see go too.
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[quote name='black blood purple passion' timestamp='1355150752' post='1255038']
thought I'd be the last to say this but....I hope it isn't Cam....YET! Why replace a mediocre OC with another mediocre OC. The issue is the playbook along with the play calling. We need a total overhaul from this juvenile offence. Wait until the offseason to acquire an offensive mastermind like Norv. [b]My money is on the O line coach[/b], gives the team a scape goat for their poor play, and replacing a position coach is much easier to do than a coordinator at this point in the season.
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i was thinking this.

~Mili
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As much as I hate Cameron sometimes, this cannot be solely blamed on him. And replacing him with a guy who has NO playcalling experience is moronic at this point.

It has to be Moeller, the Oline has gotten significantly worse since he was promoted. I forget the name of the guy we let go in 2010 but it was without a doubt one of the DUMBEST moves we've made in recent years.
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[quote name='black blood purple passion' timestamp='1355150752' post='1255038']
thought I'd be the last to say this but....I hope it isn't Cam....YET! Why replace a mediocre OC with another mediocre OC. The issue is the playbook along with the play calling. We need a total overhaul from this juvenile offence. Wait until the offseason to acquire an offensive mastermind like Norv. My money is on the O line coach, gives the team a scape goat for their poor play, and replacing a position coach is much easier to do than a coordinator at this point in the season.
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Fire Cam promote an interim OC than if the offense really blows, no difference with Cam coaching it right now anyway, hire Norv, Peyton, etc... whoever
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I'm not getting excited just yet. They usually throw someone under the bus in order to save Cam's job, so I'm guessing it will the the O line coach.

Can't see Pees because it is his first year plus with all the injuries, they'd tend to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Can't see the ST guy because while they did give up that big run, they've been solid all season.
Could be the WR coach.

Please let it be Cam. Caldwell might not be the long term guy, and I know he does not really have OC experience, but anyone, and I do mean anyone, is better than Cam.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1355151312' post='1255057']
As much as I hate Cameron sometimes, this cannot be solely blamed on him. And replacing him with a guy who has NO playcalling experience is moronic at this point.

It has to be Moeller, the Oline has gotten significantly worse since he was promoted. I forget the name of the guy we let go in 2010 but it was without a doubt one of the DUMBEST moves we've made in recent years.
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It is not moronic. Cam has been a problem for awhile and honestly if getting rid of Cam and letting the healing of the offense begin means missing the playoffs one year. I can live with that because let's be honest with ourselves, a super bowl run with our injuries and current inconsistencies is a pipe dream.
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[quote name='GoRavensNTerps' timestamp='1355151044' post='1255050']
Dan Patrick has Tony Dungy in studio and his connection to Caldwell logically says it has something to do with him...
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Very interesting, getting my hopes up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did you all notice the Tweets sent out from a lot of our guys on Offense about not finishing? Could be a little nudge to the higher ups about the play calling.

@vleach44: #Ravensnation we let another one get away, we have to find a way to close out games. [Twitter]

@bpierce_30: At a loss for words... Left my heart and soul on that field tonight [Twitter]

@torreysmithwr: Another blown opportunity yet we sit in the same position we were entering the game...We need to start finishing teams off smh [Twitter]
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[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1355151449' post='1255064']
It is not moronic. Cam has been a problem for awhile and honestly if getting rid of Cam and letting the healing of the offense begin means missing the playoffs one year. I can live with that because let's be honest with ourselves, a super bowl run with our injuries and current inconsistencies is a pipe dream.
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If we're 4-9 then yes you do it now. But if Im Ozzie I'm not letting a potential playoff berth be interrupted because we go to a guy on offense who has no idea how to call plays in the middle of the final 3 games. That is the moronic part.

Like I said, pull the plug on Cameron if we're in a losing season. But you can't at 9-4.

It will be Moeller. I also kind of want it to be Pees but to be honest I don't even know who the hell we could replace him with other than Clarence Brooks.
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im thinking pees some players were complaining about "vanilla calls" on defense and cant use those against peyton when your getting beat by back ups.. going to be tough im not one for changes mid season..
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1355151312' post='1255057']
As much as I hate Cameron sometimes, this cannot be solely blamed on him. And replacing him with a guy who has NO playcalling experience is moronic at this point.

It has to be Moeller, the Oline has gotten significantly worse since he was promoted. I forget the name of the guy we let go in 2010 but it was without a doubt one of the DUMBEST moves we've made in recent years.
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Caldwell was OC in Indy, and head coach when they went 14-2 and to the super bowl. From what I can tell, he's a well liked guy who had a really bad season with the colts.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1355152032' post='1255077']
Caldwell was OC in Indy, and head coach when they went 14-2 and to the super bowl. From what I can tell, he's a well liked guy who had a really bad season with the colts.
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he never was OC, just QB coach or HC
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[quote name='horus13corvineus' timestamp='1355152134' post='1255080']
he never was OC, just QB coach or HC
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That's crazy. they made the QB coach the OC? I take it back, firing cameron would be crazy.
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[quote name='msufan' timestamp='1355152244' post='1255084']
He said it isn't the side of the ball you think. Which a uniformed fan may think D or offense idk.
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there's 3 sides to a football... offense, defence and special teams... i'll go side of ball who didn't keep the skins and pitts from scoring with 3rd string qbs at helm
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