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[News] Game Recap: Redskins 31, Ravens 28

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Baltimore was up by eight points in the fourth, but fell to the Redskins in overtime, 31-28.

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I cant stand these zone plays being called! Man to Man equals responsibly. All day I saw 3 or 4 guys around the wide-receiver but never really there to do anything. Why isn't Bryant Mckinnie at LT JESUS! AND JOE stop throwing it a yard or two short of the first.
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[quote name='SSRavenFan' timestamp='1355101315' post='1254001']
Deflating loss - I really don't know what to say. This was a W and we lost it.
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If I could give you more pluses I would, but they only allow me to give you one per comment.
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You know it's possible, in life to make yourself feel better all the way to the poor house. You can take all your credit cards, savings accounts and cash and go out and spend it up and feel real good for a while. But we all know that when the fleeting feeling is gone you are in serious doo-doo. So I make no sugar coated accolades about this team after the last several weeks of performance. There is no reserve left and some of the most difficult games are coming up. So if you're trying to somehow convince me that everything is okay and this game was a fluke it would make me wonder about your problem solving skills. To just keep on keeping on and go along to get along will end you up with nothing bot misery.
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The Steelers and the Bengals gave us an early Christmas present, and then the Refs gift wrapped a W for the Redskins.
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Facing a third-and-6 from Washington%u2019s 11 on the next drive, linebacker Ryan Kerrigan came clean on an all-out blitz with the Ravens in a four-wide formation. Flacco didn%u2019t get the ball out fast enough, and it fluttered out of his hand and was intercepted by linebacker London Fletcher.

%u201CIt was my fault,%u201D Flacco said. %u201CI got enamored with trying to get Ray [Rice] something over there. It was my fault. You%u2019ve got to get the ball out of your hand.%u201D

^ thanks for the ownership and honesty Joe.

~Mili
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Sadly what we witness today was the best the Ravens can do. Thanks to Pees, he has destroyed our Defense. Cam should have already been gone. And Harbaugh needs to have the backbone to do his job and if he can't then Ozzie needs to step in and do the job for him. FIRE PEES AND CAM. Even if we make the play-offs, with this defense and an average quarterback it will be one and done.
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i didnt see the game but id say pees needs to go i mean even if we make it the playoffs you think we can compete with the pats and broncos and deff not the texans i mean remember what happend when we plays texans 43-13
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I'm so sick of people saying that it was a clear fumble recovery. Reed never fully possessed the ball going out of bounds. You can clearly see it move. Take off the purple shades
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What this and the other articles about the Ravens loss today didn't say... Was that it took Joe and the O over 32 mins to score after the third TD in the 2nd QTR... I actually thought the D played well after the 1st QTR and held the Redskins to 6 pts on the turnovers... if Flacco eats it and takes the sack on the INT, we go up 24-17, a six point swing... This loss is on Flacco and the Offense!!
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John said they won't be disheartened, well that's good John. Nothing to get disheartened about. Let's see you have qb that has been the inconsistent qb in the league, a defense,I know there are injuries, but, they can't close a game against another 2nd string qb., an Offensive and defensive coordinators that seem to lose their minds in the 2nd half. You have twoqbs coming in that will probably rip apart the defense and I'm sure Joe will hold the ball until he fumbles again. No John things are looking up. If you make the playoffs and that's a huge if, you'll be one and done. Sorry Raven fans I'm just beong realistic. This team has been out played and out coached badly the last two games. They's also been lucky to have 9 wins, thier luck is running out.
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Cam and Pees need to go!
And Flacco is too dumb to hang on to the football.
Tossed the Flacco jersey in the trash today!
I'll get Rice jersey. He plays to win.
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A couple of weeks ago home field and a bye looked doable. Now I'm wondering how this team will be able to win a road playoff game.

I think there are locker room issues that are spilling out to the field of play. I would give my left arm to be able to play football in the NFL for free. These guys get paid millions and are adulated by the fans, and they look like a group of guys who are just showing up. Certainly some exceptions who are playing like a Raven -- Leach, Rice, Pierce, Kruger, Jones, Boldin, Torrey, Jones, Pollard -- but guys like Oher, and linebackers, and some of our defensive backs are playing soft. The coaches are never accountable - Harbs always plays nice with his mighty men and I don't think the players respect him or the coaches. Where's the energy? Why does Joe sit on the bench and not get on his O-lines case when they almost get him killed? Joe's stock is falling with me. The team needs some leadership and it's not coming from the coaches.
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Its tough to judge whether Flacco will ever become an elite QB or not, he has these flashes of greatness when hes unstoppable, but sometime, it seems he gets scared and cant LEAD the offense and lets leads slip away, hes not a natural leader, he needs to open his mouth more! Communicate when things are good and when things are bad.

Now there is a problem on offense and it can be one of these two things, Cam or Flacco, I think its Cam as hes butchered the Offense on all teams hes gone to. Dean Pees is not at fault, list the injuries we have had this season and look at how after adjusting we contained RGII, not an easy thing to do with multiple injuries.

FInally, JH needs to be more of a commanding presence, the HC from NYG screams when bone headed plays are made, JH just doesnt seem to do that. He needs to be feared and respected.

IBP
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[quote name='BronzeBoots' timestamp='1355103657' post='1254193']
Sadly what we witness today was the best the Ravens can do. Thanks to Pees, he has destroyed our Defense. Cam should have already been gone. And Harbaugh needs to have the backbone to do his job and if he can't then Ozzie needs to step in and do the job for him. FIRE PEES AND CAM. Even if we make the play-offs, with this defense and an average quarterback it will be one and done.
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C'mon man. You take any defense that loses it's star player at MLB, it's other MLB, it's best CB, it's best pass rusher, and it's going to be horrible too - even if Buddy Ryan was calling the plays. The Texans would be nothing if you took Watt, Cushing, Joseph & Mercilus off their team. We are playing 2 guys that were basically bagging groceries a month ago.
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Random thought.... New OC: Norv , New DC: Rex

I know it the odds of this happening are about as good as the Browns getting to the Super Bowl next year, but Norv is on the hotplate and Rex's team is a circus act this year. I bet if he did get replaced, he'd be willing to come back to the team that got him his only ring.
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Lets resign flacco right now to a max deal before he gets away!!!! Not!!!......No one would pick that disapointment up if we cut him tomorrow......We are only going to make the playoffs if cincy and pitt continue to lose.......Hey!...lets give joe alot of money to play for us......SAYS NO ONE....
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Over five years, Flacco hasn't gotten better at any of these three things:

1. When he sees (IF he sees) an unblocked linebacker or DB who's clearly coming on a blitz, he doesn't release the ball quickly or roll to his right. Sacks and strips-sacks and interceptions invariably follow.

2. He NEVER steps up into the pocket after 2-3 seconds. Lots of these fumbles and sacks could be averted if he simply counted to three in his head and STEPPED FORWARD. The coaches should have drilled that into him in practice, even calling out a count over and over again.

3. Other than a few QB sneaks, Joe simply will not run the ball when no one is open -- he might drift away from pressure, but always forces a pass or throws it away. Why not take off with the ball for once?? (In our only possession of overtime, he kinda-sorta ran on third down but looked timid and afraid of being hit. Has Cam or Harbaugh told him to NEVER run, or is he a wuss? (Christ, even Peyton Manning has run for first downs this year, and the guy had neck surgery.)
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I'll play the blame game tomorrow.... Right now, my silver lining is:

1.We can score on the road
2. Joe is a solid QB ... screw the detractors
3.Our D line and O line need to shape up
4. We're gonna be OK, we really are
5. Our best is yet to come
6. Look out Denver, you're coming into a hornets nest
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[quote name='TheConquerorWorm' timestamp='1355105838' post='1254341']
We are playing 2 guys that were basically bagging groceries a month ago.
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I LoL'd at this. Sad, but true.
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I'm feeling a little insane tonight, but man would I love to see Ray Lewis as Defensive Coordinator next week and maybe Cam could oversleep and not show for the game. Either Ray Rice or my dear departed grandmother could be the OC. It couldn't hurt.
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TigerFan54--- You are right he has showed flashes of improvement but not consistently he seems to have a mental block at times like he forget to change coverage or run out of the pocket or just throw it away. Man he only big thing Flacco has on his side as far as contract talk is he play every week but he's not reliable as of playing at a high level.
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Hey Jaycee3719... where do you think Cam came from? I don't agree with that statement... I think more time with Caldwell helps Joe develop.
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[quote name='Lightlock' timestamp='1355105844' post='1254342']
Random thought.... New OC: Norv , New DC: Rex

I know it the odds of this happening are about as good as the Browns getting to the Super Bowl next year, but Norv is on the hotplate and Rex's team is a circus act this year. I bet if he did get replaced, he'd be willing to come back to the team that got him his only ring.
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Do you really want Rex back after what he has done to the Jets??? He isn't coming back to Baltimore. And Norv???? I'm not thinking that's gonna work either. I mean where do you think Cam came from.... The same organization. If you're gonna make changes like that, I'm thinking you go find somebody that's been successful recently.
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I understand the panic people....but, lets take a breath. The fact is in pressure games we can compete with anyone....anyone. Our defense is hurting right now but if we can get a bit healthier down the stretch we will be fine. The offense looked great to me today. We are hurting...but lets not rip each other apart here....we just need our d to get healthy.
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As much as I want a new OC, everyone who wants Norv Turner needs to shut it. Both Cam and Norv come from the same Marty Schottenhimer coaching tree, so hiring him would just give us Cam with a scarier face. Plays would be the same, and just like Rivers we would only see Flacco digress.
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[quote name='BmoreB' timestamp='1355106181' post='1254372']
I'll play the blame game tomorrow.... Right now, my silver lining is:

1.We can score on the road
2. Joe is a solid QB ... screw the detractors
3.Our D line and O line need to shape up
4. We're gonna be OK, we really are
5. Our best is yet to come
6. Look out Denver, you're coming into a hornets nest
[/quote] man i wish i was as confident as u...its too hard to be after this loss
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Injuries have been brutal, our schedule is brutal, the past two games have been brutal losses for us fans. You really have understand much of the frustration right now. We can change things that are done, hopefully we just get it turned around and hope we get hot for the playoffs which we still have a good chance to make.
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Many yell at Joe say this say that and then say our oc freaking stinks. I say we get a better oc before you throw Joe under the bus for a blindside smash and a tipped pick.
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[quote name='luvrayrice27' timestamp='1355107153' post='1254427']
man i wish i was as confident as u...its too hard to be after this loss
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After last week I would have been right there with you. I actually thought last weeks lost would piss us off for this week, and I really don't think we played bad today. We got caught with the wrong personnel on the field at the wrong time. But with our injuries is there a right personell?
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I would like to c nigel carr or adrian hamilton get a shot this linebacker corp been a real achillies 4 us ppl outta postion not beating blocks we need to light some fires on d cause were not closing teams out and also y r we not communicating in the secondary we love ed reed but he roaming too much if he stays in position or corners wouldnt get burned as much we played solid but couldnt close
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[quote name='4evermore23' timestamp='1355107568' post='1254444']
I would like to c nigel carr or adrian hamilton get a shot this linebacker corp been a real achillies 4 us ppl outta postion not beating blocks we need to light some fires on d cause were not closing teams out and also y r we not communicating in the secondary we love ed reed but he roaming too much if he stays in position or corners wouldnt get burned as much we played solid but couldnt close
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Who are these guys? Special Teamers or Practice Players? That seems to be half of our defense.
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[quote name='Lightlock' timestamp='1355105844' post='1254342']
Random thought.... New OC: Norv , New DC: Rex

I know it the odds of this happening are about as good as the Browns getting to the Super Bowl next year, but Norv is on the hotplate and Rex's team is a circus act this year. I bet if he did get replaced, he'd be willing to come back to the team that got him his only ring.
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Random thought.... New OC: Norv (Are you kidding me) , New DC: Rex (Bingo)

Norv taught Cam how to call plays. Are you serious.
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Ed Reed did nothing today - NOTHING. I kept saying it every defensive outing in the 4th quarter, "C'mon Ed, it's your time. You're due. Save the game." It never happened.
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Perhaps at practice this past week we did not focus heavily enough on the Heimlich manuever........for we are continuing to choke far WORSE than last week !
Play- nothing....Its NOW pray like a Raven !
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Well, as usual there are a number of folks blaming Joe Flacco for missing the blocks that lead to the two sacks. But that's not why we lost another winnable game, or why the Skins put up 31 points and over 400 yard of offense.

As for our offense, we simply don't adjust. That idiot Rich Gannon noted that we always seem to end up in an offensive funk at some point during the game. That's because we do the same thing over and over again. They adjust. They overload one side of the line and send more guys then we can block. They get a sack/strip. We don't have a quick-hitter or draw play or some other play in the playbook to counter this. Joe should just call a TO and make Cam come up with something. Draw it in the dirt if you have to.

And Dean Pees should be run out of town on a mule. RG3 is playing on crutches, and we rush three guys. Our linebackers simply cannot cover in space, and we rush three guys. We blitz twice a game and get two sacks. The rest of the time we rush three guys. And when they run the ball right up the middle for 8, 10, or 20 yards, we make no changes... and rush three guys. There's a reason Tom Brady had to be as good as he is- and his name is Dean Pees.

All I want for Christmas is for Rex Ryan to be fired and re-hired by the Ravens as the D-Coordinator. And Jim Caldwell named O-Coordinator.

We're going to get destroyed next week by Peyton. With this coaching staff, we're destined for 9-7. End it now. Fire them both.
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I don't think we're going to lose out. But we also do have to realize we face a very real risk, considering who we have to play in the last three games, of going 9-7, losing our last 5, and missing the playoffs entirely. Again, I DON'T think that's going to happen. However, little that I've seen in the last two weeks inspires me to believe that we're going to do great against the Mannings. If we can't win at LEAST one of those home stand games, we might as well phone it in.

And just for those curious, no, you can't keep blaming the defense. With injuries mounting, when you're down to starting a guy from the practice squad, you can't blame your D for coming up short. We're fortunate they got the stops they did, and produced 3 sacks and a couple turnovers. No, it's our offense that should have won that game, and they failed, again. Joe Flacco simply is not as good as he nor most other Ravens fans around here seemed to think he is/was for the last few years. People keep waiting for him and our offense to turn the corner. Well sure, they're not going to do that with Cam still being Cam. But they're also not going to do that with Joe getting strip-sacked two weeks in a row, and throwing a literally moronic INT in the redzone when all he had to do was take a sack and allow us to get a FG. Our offense stalled for the entire third quarter, and much of the fourth, again. Even though both our running backs were getting big chunks of yardage against a good run D. We failed to carve up the middle of the field, again, because Joe just simply does not see the whole field. Why we didn't just use Q and Pitta over the middle all day long, or even Torrey once in awhile, is beyond me. It's great that Q finally got 2 TDs in a game. It's great that we moved the chains when we did. But great QBs, and great offenses, can move the chains consistently. Not in fits and starts.

Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos are firing on all cylinders. Of course we COULD win that game. But I don't know that we're going to. I certainly hope we do, because Manning has owned us for years, which is why I hate the guy. But if Flacco and Co. can't outduel him on their own turf where they're supposedly "better" and "hard to beat", well.....that's all there really is to say about that. Two Pro Bowl, Super Bowl winning Manning Brothers, and Andy Dalton on the road. That's where we stand. Can we win at least two remaining games? Who knows.
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I sense that we have been playing more to NOT lose the game- once we reach a certain point during the game, rather than trying to actually WIN the game. This is NOT the only time that I have sensed this !
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People put to much pressure on Ed Reed. I think since he has become known as "the best" in todays' game its putting pressure on him to play like he use to play. I may be talking out my butt, but its how I feel, plus his age isn't doing him any favors along with his injuries. This loss didn't bother me at all. As long as the Ravens finish the season with AFC North wins everything will be just fine. Then the Ravens can use all energy in making the superbowl run. The Giants have won superbowls with 9-7 seasons.
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[quote name='BKeyser' timestamp='1355108248' post='1254474']
Well, as usual there are a number of folks blaming Joe Flacco for missing the blocks that lead to the two sacks. But that's not why we lost another winnable game, or why the Skins put up 31 points and over 400 yard of offense.

As for our offense, we simply don't adjust. That idiot Rich Gannon noted that we always seem to end up in an offensive funk at some point during the game. That's because we do the same thing over and over again. They adjust. They overload one side of the line and send more guys then we can block. They get a sack/strip. We don't have a quick-hitter or draw play or some other play in the playbook to counter this. Joe should just call a TO and make Cam come up with something. Draw it in the dirt if you have to.

And Dean Pees should be run out of town on a mule. RG3 is playing on crutches, and we rush three guys. Our linebackers simply cannot cover in space, and we rush three guys. We blitz twice a game and get two sacks. The rest of the time we rush three guys. And when they run the ball right up the middle for 8, 10, or 20 yards, we make no changes... and rush three guys. There's a reason Tom Brady had to be as good as he is- and his name is Dean Pees.

All I want for Christmas is for Rex Ryan to be fired and re-hired by the Ravens as the D-Coordinator. And Jim Caldwell named O-Coordinator.

We're going to get destroyed next week by Peyton. With this coaching staff, we're destined for 9-7. End it now. Fire them both.
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With Cam you are on point. Pees are black with backups and backups to backups. It's hard to evaluate him.

On the Cousins TD play the defensive back that gave up the TD was undisciplined and jumped the shorter route that Moss was running and came off of Garcon trying to be the hero. But that guy was one of the backups to the backups and that is what you get with players without experience. It was a reason they ran that shorter route in front of him and he fell for the bait.
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@Joe Flacco is #1

Hate to break it to you, but the OC isn't out there on the field playing the game. The OC isn't the one with zero pocket awareness in his fifth contract year, getting strip-sacked two weeks running. The OC isn't the one not even seeing wide-open targets in others parts of the field, instead zeroing in on certain guys and never straying. The OC isn't the one who threw a numbskull pick in the red-zone instead of just throwing it away or taking the sack, so we could get a 3 pt FG (which would have won us the game).

Cam sucks, there is no denying that. But when are people like you going to QUIT making excuses for Joe Flacco? A new OC isn't going to fix all his problems. He's still going to be the same very "meh" QB that he is right now, and has been for 5 years. Sure, we might call better plays. But at the end of the day, Joe has to EXECUTE those better plays. We've been watching this same nonsense for years now. It isn't just Cam, it isn't just Joe, it's BOTH of them, and Harbs as well. We continue to be "good but not great" as a team, and I'm sorry to inform you, but "good but not great" teams do not win Super Bowls. As evidenced by Flacco's lack of a ring.
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Thank God someone else actually sees the reality. Cam is not, and never has been the problem.....When everyone finally comes to realize that Flacco is the problem, it will be too late. Cam didn't turn the ball over, miss Torey for a sure TD (just like last year in the Patriot game) Cam isn't throwing a three yard pass on third and 6. It is so obvious that there are many rookies, second, and third year QB's playing better than our 5th year,self proclaimed "elite", no....in his words "best" QB in the league.....paleeeeze! At least once I want to hear Flacco say, "this one's on ME" He won't, he never has and never will.
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