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Quite simply...

#1) After the Rice TD, we should have gone for two. The risk is that you don't get it, and you're still up by 7, and you lose the chance of winning by stopping the two point convert. The reward is that if you get it, it's now a two possession game and likely over. Maybe they get it, maybe they don't, but it certainly wouldn't have hurt us.

#2) Taking the ball first in OT. The way the rules are set up now, you're MUCH better off to get the ball second, especially given the injury to RGIII. Let a 2nd round rookie try and move the ball, and if he doesn't, you're likely just needing a first down, maybe two, to kick the game winning FG...

Neither of those calls would have been conventional, but either one of them would have given us a better opportunity at winning.
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[quote name='PDO' timestamp='1355093246' post='1253423']
Quite simply...

#1) After the Rice TD, we should have gone for two. The risk is that you don't get it, and you're still up by 7, and you lose the chance of winning by stopping the two point convert. The reward is that if you get it, it's now a two possession game and likely over. Maybe they get it, maybe they don't, but it certainly wouldn't have hurt us.
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I actually thought about that as well. The defense was getting gashed again because they're plugs. Belichick would have gone for it. I think most coaches would have.
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Yes, because we had a much better chance of holding them to a field goal then marching and scoring a TD on our first possession. We all know why that is.
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You drive down the field with 29secs and 1 timeout to get in field goal range....bottom line!
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I was sort of wondering why they didn't try to throw the ball deep down the field on the last drive before halftime. You at least try for one long pass.
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Horrible, horrible coaching decisions.
29 seconds, 2 time outs, and we just lay down and give up?
Total lack of confidence in your players, fearful play-calling is no way to win a game, much less a championship.

As much as I love Harbs, whoever is responsible for that decision deserves to be fired. Our guys played their hearts out, they deserve better than this.
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1355096239' post='1253680']
Harbs is a great offseason/motivational coach. B[b]ut a terrible in-game coach.[/b]
Terrible.
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He is chicken out and thought if we hold on to the lead, we will win; but but with 28th ranked defense in the league??

wow....I agree Harbs has been an outstanding coach in the offseason but in game is just horrific as ever been.

PS: what's up with playing not to lose or playing 60 min game?
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[quote name='MTRavensFan' timestamp='1355096644' post='1253708']
Horrible, horrible coaching decisions.
[b]29 seconds, 2 time outs,[/b] and we just lay down and give up?
Total lack of confidence in your players, fearful play-calling is no way to win a game, much less a championship.

As much as I love Harbs, whoever is responsible for that decision deserves to be fired. Our guys played their hearts out, they deserve better than this.
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It's like you have 2min running offense without timeout...stupid not to put some more points against hot coming RGIII offense. Besides, does Harbs still think our used to be defense bail us out again?
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Did this irritate anyone else?

Before the half you have 44 sec and two TOs, yet you take the knee?

Before the end of the regulation, 30 secs and a timeout, and again, you take the knee?

Why not give one of the best kickers in the league a shot? Where is the killer instinct on this coaching staff? And if you (the coaches) have so little faith in Flacco to move the ball, then why do you want him here?
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[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1355098204' post='1253821']
Did this irritate anyone else?

Before the half you have 44 sec and two TOs, yet you take the knee?

Before the end of the regulation, 30 secs and a timeout, and again, you take the knee?

Why not give one of the best kickers in the league a shot? Where is the killer instinct on this coaching staff? And if you (the coaches) have so little faith in Flacco to move the ball, then why do you want him here?
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And if there's a fumble or a tipped pass you'd give the game away. If it's under 45 seconds, which is statistically about 10 yards, you have a much greater chance of losing going for it. It's called playing smart.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1355098303' post='1253826']
And if there's a fumble or a tipped pass you'd give the game away. If it's under 45 seconds, which is statistically about 10 yards, you have a much greater chance of losing going for it. It's called playing smart.
[/quote]I can understand not doing it at the end of regulation, where a mistake loses the game.

But why not do it before the half, when you not only have the lead, but you get the ball to start the second half? That to me is cowardice.
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[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1355098390' post='1253833']
I can understand not doing it at the end of regulation, where a mistake loses the game.

But why not do it before the half, when you not only have the lead, but you get the ball to start the second half? That to me is cowardice.
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Because it's 30 seconds left, and in obvious passing situations your QB can get hurt. If there's a minute on the clock you go for it. If there's 50 it depends. If it's 40 or less, you don't go for it. Period. Unless you get the ball around the 40.
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That's Harbs' gameplan ahead of time; let's play convervative and not turning the ball over. Well, we turn over the ball 2 times during crucial time. I think Harbs is choking badly, not believing in his players......

It's downright horrific for our coaching staffs.....
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1355098610' post='1253848']
Because it's 30 seconds left, and in obvious passing situations your QB can get hurt. If there's a minute on the clock you go for it. If there's 50 it depends. If it's 40 or less, you don't go for it. Period. Unless you get the ball around the 40.
[/quote]It was 44 seconds with 2 timeouts in your pocket.
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[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1355098762' post='1253854']
It was 44 seconds with 2 timeouts in your pocket.
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We were at the 20 right?
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Totally agree with both of these points, I just think that once again Harbs (i love the guy, but he's a little bit of a softie) stuck to the safe side of things. Although deep passes at the end of the 2nd and 4th quarter could have cost turnovers, have you ever heard of the expression 'go down fighting'? Plain and simple, the coaches and the players laid down for Washington today.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that was wondering, "Why aren't we going for two here?" after the Rice touchdown. Also, you'd think with 0:29 we'd at least take a couple of shots down the field to try to get a field goal. Either scenario would've equaled a "W" today.

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]My question is, can anyone confirm or deny if the kickoff to Jacoby was in-bounds or out-of-bounds? Not looking for another excuse, but it looked like Jacoby was near the five-yard line before he gave up catching it in-bounds.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Cosmic[/i][/font]
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[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1355098204' post='1253821']
Did this irritate anyone else?

Before the half you have 44 sec and two TOs, yet you take the knee?

Before the end of the regulation, 30 secs and a timeout, and again, you take the knee?

Why not give one of the best kickers in the league a shot? Where is the killer instinct on this coaching staff? And if you (the coaches) have so little faith in Flacco to move the ball, then why do you want him here?
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You are right. Period. Bottom line. They played it scared and conservative. That gets you beat everytime. I can't think of one SB caliber coach that wouldn't have tried for more points in the halftime situation AT A MINIMUM. They rather lose trying than bending over. Let the players decide it, not terrible judgment from weak coaches.

Plus, if they truly believed in Flacco they would have gone for points especially against a "weak" secondary like the Skins. Everything the coaches say is lip service. We know that now.
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Hey! Don't worry guys! We're 9-4! You act like we're a fraudulent 9-win team with holes and a horrific coaching staff who can't make adjustments and living off player talent! We'll be fine! No need to panic even though we have 4 games left and still haven't clinched our division! DON'T WORRY! Keep that faith! I trust in Harbaugh, Killa Cam and The Dean...Pees!

Wait a minute...

We didn't attempt to score at the end of the half or at the end of the game? lol, playing not to lose and lose.
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Harbaugh is horrible at situational football to be sure, but I don't think that those specific decisions cost the team this game.
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[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1355101228' post='1253992']
Harbaugh is horrible at situational football to be sure, but I don't think that those specific decisions cost the team this game.
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You're right! It was our D coordinator insisting that blitzes are a thing of the past. We let Kirk Cousins... let me please repeat that. KIRK COUSINS CLUTCH US! Are you kidding me!
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[quote name='Greatness' timestamp='1355101374' post='1254005']
You're right! It was our D coordinator insisting that blitzes are a thing of the past. We let Kirk Cousins... let me please repeat that. KIRK COUSINS CLUTCH US! Are you kidding me!
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You really shouldn't be surprised, they let Charlie Batch do the same thing last week.
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[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1355101457' post='1254016']
You really shouldn't be surprised, they let Charlie Batch do the same thing last week.
[/quote]I can forgive Batch, who a) is on a team who knows us inside and out and b ) has NFL experience and has won in this league in the past.

Cousins though? Unforgivable.
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[quote name='RedFire' timestamp='1355093630' post='1253457']
You drive down the field with 29secs and 1 timeout to get in field goal range....bottom line!
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My thoughts exactly. Why in the world would a head coach choose to let those precious 29 seconds go at the end of the game? We have all seen Joe drive all the way down the field for a TD in under a minute. He couldn't drive to within Tucker's range for a field goal in 29 seconds with one time out? We couldn't even try? Instead we choose to go into an overtime match with a team that has been running roughshod over our defense for the last 4 quarters? I am stunned, stupefied and amazed at the sheer stupidity of that decision, in a season filled with foolish coaching decisions that was the worst. Sure, there was no guarantee that we would have done much more than make a few yards, but to not even try? At least give Tucker the chance at least.
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This week feels like Groundhog's Day (last week). The dreary rainy Monday is gonna' be hard to face! Can't wait to hear the Coach's Report at four o'clock tomorrow afternoon ::eyeroll::
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