A plea to Steve Biscotti

[jaege]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1355103501' post='1254180']
See, here's the problem with this entire thread. A lot of people in this thread are putting that record and the records of our past since Harbaugh has been here 'aside' and pretending it doesn't matter and counts for nothing because we don't have rings. Guess what guys? It's hard to get a ring and that's it. Ball bounces this way, you get there. Ball bounces that way (EVANS!!!!) you don't. Period. Has nothing to do with how 'sugar coaty' John Harbaugh is. This thread is dumb, and I'm as mad as anyone.
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Here is a problem with many posters. Too many people think that saying "we have a 9-4 record" cures all ills. It doesn't. Yes they are 9-4. Yes they are (still, somehow) controlliing the division, but do you really feel good about the way they have performed? Are you confident that they will have continued success?The team is performing poorly, as compared to the way it has performed over the last few years. A few weeks ago we were 9-2 and everyone was drinking the koolaid. How quickly 9-2 2nd seed, becomes 9-4 4th seed. This isnt about a ball bouncing the right way. Games can be won (or lost) due to luck, but they can also be controlled by good play, so that luck never enters into it. If you think that coaching has no effect on the team's play then you are sadly mistaken. Coaches do not get million dollar contracts to look good on the sidelines.

The next 2 games are no joke. Not less than stellar teams with rookie or 2nd string QBs. These are well oiled machines with proven veteran SB winning QBs. Heads need to be removed from rear orifices if we want to have a chnace to win either of these 2.

[fred calleri]

[font=times new roman, times, serif][size=4]I've never seen a QB who doesn't seem to take responsibility for a loss............in most of his after loss interviews he shows little remorse or admission that he may have been responsible for the game changer. Two weeks in a row he's held the ball too long and allowed a lost fumble or interception, but you wouldn't know it in the press conference. Show some leadership Joe![/size][/font]

[jaege]

[quote name='usmccharles' timestamp='1355095995' post='1253656']
after reading some of this, im ashamed. Some of you talking some much trash about Harbs is just dumb. He is a good head coach, we were stripped ball away from the superbowl, if that wouldnt of happened i bet you guys would be just fine. Although i am not a fan of cam, i like harbs and pees is still in his first year. you have remember we are working with out our 1 and 2 cbs out, ray is out, suggs is out....You cant expect to dominate every single year, although we are still going to win double digits. I understand the frustration, but alot of these problems were player mistakes, poor coverage, poor tackling, etc...ive never wr's be that open. I think cam will be gone this after this year, a offense never making progress is a sign of consistantly no progress, so change is needed. how many other teams have made the playoffs 5 years running? exactly...
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I like the guy too. But you know what? If Cam is the problem, and I am not saying he is, then it is John's job to correct that problem. He has yet to do so for 5 years now. If the problem for our poor offensive performance is something else, then it is his job to see that it gets corrected. He can delegate, but he still has to make sure it gets done. That is his job. It is why he is getting paid. If he cannot do the job...

[bk31th]

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[AsianRice]

[quote name='jaege' timestamp='1355148256' post='1254976']
I like the guy too. But you know what? If Cam is the problem, and I am not saying he is, then it is John's job to correct that problem. He has yet to do so for 5 years now. If the problem for our poor offensive performance is something else, then it is his job to see that it gets corrected. He can delegate, but he still has to make sure it gets done. That is his job. It is why he is getting paid. [b]If he cannot do the job[/b]...
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Cam can help him pack.....

[cobrajet]

Like I said in other posts, fans are frustrated. If we are just a bad team getting blown out that is one thing, but when we are not a bad team you start to find the common denominator. If you start looking at the losses over the years, one common denominator is that 99% of the time these losses were blamed on Cam and his playcalling by the fans. Then you look at Cam's history before he came to the Ravens and it seems like the evidence against him starts to get overwhelming. Just saying.

[Dfence4champs2052]

[quote name='jaege' timestamp='1355148256' post='1254976']
I like the guy too. But you know what? [b]If Cam is the problem, and I am not saying he is,[/b] then it is John's job to correct that problem. He has yet to do so for 5 years now. If the problem for our poor offensive performance is something else, then it is his job to see that it gets corrected. He can delegate, but he still has to make sure it gets done. That is his job. It is why he is getting paid. If he cannot do the job...
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Say what?!

[Dfence4champs2052]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1355154028' post='1255164']
Like I said in other posts, fans are frustrated. If we are just a bad team getting blown out that is one thing, but when we are not a bad team you start to find the common denominator. If you start looking at the losses over the years, one common denominator is that 99% of the time these losses were blamed on Cam and his playcalling by the fans. Then you look at Cam's history before he came to the Ravens and it seems like the evidence against him starts to get overwhelming. Just saying.
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Agreed. I mean the whole Brees and Rivers didn't flourish until he left has some excellent validity in my opinion.

[jaege]

[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1355150188' post='1255010']
Cam can help him pack.....
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Lol. And carry out his luggage on the way out.

[tctony]

1/3 OP! Thats a start!

[Neil]

You know, I would have a hard time firing the winningest coach in franchise history when I look at all those 'smart' coaching hires that proceed to have 4-win or 8-win seasons, especially over a 2-game loosing streak.

[grahaven]

Wow, this is bad

This post is really sad and not thought out at all. Coach Harbaugh has lead us to the playoffs 4 years in a row and this will be his 5th. There are plenty of bad coaches in the NFL and they have a lot of the same qualites. Coach Harbs has none of these. If we let him go, More than 3/4 of the leauge would want him.

Please don't write foolish stuff like this again. It is backed up by no facts and is really crazy is the best word I can think of.

Go get em Coach!!

[grahaven]

[quote name='Neil' timestamp='1355160316' post='1255728']
You know, I would have a hard time firing the winningest coach in franchise history when I look at all those 'smart' coaching hires that proceed to have 4-win or 8-win seasons, especially over a 2-game loosing streak.
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Truth!

[nextgen_RavensFan]

Well that is one out of three that should be answering for the Ravens very erratic play. Should be Harbs and Cam gone but i guess Harb's gets a pass because we are on the verge of the Play Offs but he does need to answer for why the owner had to do his job and why he did not take these issues and try to fix them as they have been the same issues since the start of at least last season. If i was Biscotti i would have went after Harbs first and asked what he was doing and why no corrections were made a long time ago. Wow hold the head coach accountable for his own team, what a novel idea.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

Harbs won most of those games thanks to a defense that stood out, am i wrong ? Now that the defense is bad the flaws are glaring. Just like the Offensive Genius Billick who rode the defense for all it was worth . When push comes to shove we can thank the defense for the winning record and we all see what happens when Harbs needs to start actually earning his pay, he checks out and ignores the issues at hand.

[grahaven]

How are the flaws glaring? We are 9-4 after 2 straight loses. We are about to win the North for the second year in a row. This year we are hurt. That is it. Many of us (myself included sometimes) are over thinking this thing. Cam is a problem and is now gone. Not sure yet on Dean because it is his first year and he is playing mostly back ups. We are lucky to have Coach Harbs. He is really a great coach!

[sakman]

So if Harbs is bad, Ozzie is terrible, the players are crap, how are we in first place by two games,controlling our own destiny again this year? How is it that we made the playoffs the last four? How is it that we were only a missed catch from the Super Bowl last year? Man, I bet your justa joy to live with...