A plea to Steve Biscotti

[nextgen_RavensFan]

You are paying guys that have no business being NFL coordinators and coach's. None of them have the need to make adjustments and do not seem any more concerned to do so. They are happy taking your money and playing high school level schemes.

Cam is to stubborn to change his "lack of" play calling.
Pees just does not have the knowledge to be in the NFL
Harbaugh lacks the backbone to be a head coach and willing to ride the tide no matter where it leads.

We need your intervention to shake things up. I know John is a very nice guy but as a coach he is terrible at making decisions and changes. I know Cam has been around bu the is not what this team needs as he is afraid to make adjustments to improve our chances to win and Pees is just a terrible DC and does not belong anywhere but in a small college or high school market.

Please step in and help this team. We need a strong leader and we have none.

[arnie_uk]

I think we are paying a coach that won't ever take us to the promised land. I hope I'm made to eat them words

[nk02442]

Unless Biscotti's pocket book starts to get smaller, he wont change anything.

This team limps along just enough to not do anything.

Anyone who is not blinded by purple knew Harbaugh was a Poor choice for a HC, and allowing him to stay around, surrounding himself with poor coordinators is just insane.

Ozzie has lost his touch and we have not drafted players needed to win with poor coaching. You are seeing what happens when you have a declining roster and poor coaching. After the ravens Pay flacco big bucks, and arent able to bring in quality free agents to replace the ones we lose, we will go to a losing team. Maybe it will only take a year or two for him to smell the roses, clean house. When that happens it will still take a few years to rebuild the team IF they get a good QB to be a contender.

You either adapt to the league and its evolution or you lose. Other good/great teams already have done this and that is why they are going to be good for years to come. Ravens are playing 2001 football in 2012.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

we cannot change things now with 3 more games from regular season, please be reasonable and let the whole season unfold, any turmoil now will only be even more detrimental to the team than the bads we all think about the coaches

[SecretAgentMan]

Harbs is a good coach, he aint the problem..... The other too could go die and I could care less(not literally die, just get out of the NFL)

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355093272' post='1253424']
Unless Biscotti's pocket book starts to get smaller, he wont change anything.

[b]This team limps along just enough to not do anything.[/b]

Anyone who is not blinded by purple knew Harbaugh was a Poor choice for a HC, and allowing him to stay around, surrounding himself with poor coordinators is just insane.

Ozzie has lost his touch and we have not drafted players needed to win with poor coaching. You are seeing what happens when you have a declining roster and poor coaching. After the ravens Pay flacco big bucks, and arent able to bring in quality free agents to replace the ones we lose, we will go to a losing team. Maybe it will only take a year or two for him to smell the roses, clean house. When that happens it will still take a few years to rebuild the team IF they get a good QB to be a contender.

You either adapt to the league and its evolution or you lose. Other good/great teams already have done this and that is why they are going to be good for years to come. Ravens are playing 2001 football in 2012.
[/quote]

I can't remember a more undwhelming 9-4 team, but being the only team to make the play-offs the past four seasons is more than "limping along".

[nk02442]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355093291' post='1253427']
Harbs is a good coach, he aint the problem..... The other too could go die and I could care less(not literally die, just get out of the NFL)
[/quote]

So if your coordinators have been HORRIBLE the whole time you been a head coach (besides 1 year of rex and one of Pags) the head coach gets a pass? God I dont know how some of you are able to dress yourself in the morning.

Idiocrocy is clearly a doccumentory and not a movie.

[nk02442]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1355093511' post='1253448']
I can't remember a more undwhelming 9-4 team, but being the only team to make the play-offs the past four seasons is more than "limping along".
[/quote]


And how many Rings? Only one of them was as the AFC North champ, the rest as a wild card.

Last year we had the easiest schedule in the NFL. We still couldnt beat horrible teams like Jacksonville, Seattle and Tenn.

Stop making excuses. This team has ridden on the fumes of its talent and some luck. Now that talent is getting old and not being restocked, you will see what happens. 4/5 years of playoffs with no rings means poor draft picks and with the poor drafting this team has done since 2007, You really think we are going to do anything?

[justifythegame]

[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' timestamp='1355092723' post='1253372']
You are paying guys that have no business being NFL coordinators and coach's. None of them have the need to make adjustments and do not seem any more concerned to do so. They are happy taking your money and playing high school level schemes.

Cam is to stubborn to change his "lack of" play calling.
Pees just does not have the knowledge to be in the NFL
Harbaugh lacks the backbone to be a head coach and willing to ride the tide no matter where it leads.

We need your intervention to shake things up. I know John is a very nice guy but as a coach he is terrible at making decisions and changes. I know Cam has been around bu the is not what this team needs as he is afraid to make adjustments to improve our chances to win and Pees is just a terrible DC and does not belong anywhere but in a small college or high school market.

Please step in and help this team. We need a strong leader and we have none.
[/quote]

We know what to expect from Cam Cameron. We weren't asking him to make the offense elite, just do enough on offense to be decent. But that was on the assumption that we have the best defense in the world like we have had over the last decade. We know what to expect from the offense, thats not the problem. And at the end of the day Cam Cameron has made this offense 10x better than Brian Billick. The problem is John Harbaugh hiring his buddy Dean Pees, who has picked apart and dismantled our defense piece by piece. The injury excuses aren't valid because it was clearly the worst defense we had ever seen even before all the injuries. You can't say Suggs was the difference between the best defense in the NFL and arguably the worst defense in the NFL. I love Terrell Suggs, but he nor any player in the NFL is THAT good. Even if there are injuries [i]now[/i], so what? Thats not an excuse for playing [b]this[/b] bad. If anything if Pees produced with back up players like Pagano and Ryan used to do, it would speak volumes about his coaching ability. Guys like Kruger, McPhee etc were back ups notching sacks last year.

And you know its bad when Ray Lewis becomes helpless in overcoming the horrible coaching.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355093706' post='1253464']
And how many Rings? Only one of them was as the AFC North champ, the rest as a wild card.

Last year we had the easiest schedule in the NFL. We still couldnt beat horrible teams like Jacksonville, Seattle and Tenn.

Stop making excuses. This team has ridden on the fumes of its talent and some luck. Now that talent is getting old and not being restocked, you will see what happens. 4/5 years of playoffs with no rings means poor draft picks and with the poor drafting this team has done since 2007, You really think we are going to do anything?
[/quote]
Heads up everyone. Quit posting, hes hasnt taken his meds and is trying to get fed.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355093272' post='1253424']
Unless Biscotti's pocket book starts to get smaller, he wont change anything.

This team limps along just enough to not do anything.

Anyone who is not blinded by purple knew Harbaugh was a Poor choice for a HC, and allowing him to stay around, surrounding himself with poor coordinators is just insane.

Ozzie has lost his touch and we have not drafted players needed to win with poor coaching. You are seeing what happens when you have a declining roster and poor coaching. After the ravens Pay flacco big bucks, and arent able to bring in quality free agents to replace the ones we lose, we will go to a losing team. Maybe it will only take a year or two for him to smell the roses, clean house. When that happens it will still take a few years to rebuild the team IF they get a good QB to be a contender.

You either adapt to the league and its evolution or you lose. Other good/great teams already have done this and that is why they are going to be good for years to come. Ravens are playing 2001 football in 2012.
[/quote]LOL just stop, nothing positive has ever come out of your mouth on this forum........ever. As soon as you said Ozzie has lost his touch your opinion just went down hill.

[RedFire]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355093272' post='1253424']
Unless Biscotti's pocket book starts to get smaller, he wont change anything.

This team limps along just enough to not do anything.

Anyone who is not blinded by purple knew Harbaugh was a Poor choice for a HC, and allowing him to stay around, surrounding himself with poor coordinators is just insane.

Ozzie has lost his touch and we have not drafted players needed to win with poor coaching. You are seeing what happens when you have a declining roster and poor coaching. After the ravens Pay flacco big bucks, and arent able to bring in quality free agents to replace the ones we lose, we will go to a losing team. Maybe it will only take a year or two for him to smell the roses, clean house. When that happens it will still take a few years to rebuild the team IF they get a good QB to be a contender.

You either adapt to the league and its evolution or you lose. Other good/great teams already have done this and that is why they are going to be good for years to come. Ravens are playing 2001 football in 2012.
[/quote]


Not so fast 2/4 last yr we were in the AFC champ game. We playing the proper ball...we just make the worse possible decisions and the worse time.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355093291' post='1253427']
Harbs is a good coach, he aint the problem..... The other too could go die and I could care less(not literally die, just get out of the NFL)
[/quote]

If Hrbs is a good coach then why has Cam not changed his play calling or Pees redone his schemes or came better prepared for halftime adjustments friend. Unless they are made to do so they will not do it. You speak great words but just look at the facts and the fact is Harbs is a Spineless leader who just rides the tide. Good or Bad.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' timestamp='1355093963' post='1253486']
If Hrbs is a good coach then why has Cam not changed his play calling or Pees redone his schemes or came better prepared for halftime adjustments friend. Unless they are made to do so they will not do it. You speak great words but just look at the facts and the fact is Harbs is a Spineless leader who just rides the tide. Good or Bad.
[/quote]
Good Coach, too nice of a person.....

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1355093798' post='1253473']
LOL just stop, nothing positive has ever come out of your mouth on this forum........ever. As soon as you said Ozzie has lost his touch your opinion just went down hill.
[/quote]

[jazz1988]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355093534' post='1253451']
So if your coordinators have been HORRIBLE the whole time you been a head coach (besides 1 year of rex and one of Pags) the head coach gets a pass? God I dont know how some of you are able to dress yourself in the morning.

Idiocrocy is clearly a doccumentory and not a movie.
[/quote]

ummmm i think you need check the ravens defense ranking under greg mattison because i thought for sure they was ranked in some where in the top 10 ranking but i could be wrong lol and even with all that please tell me when did the ravens missed the playoffs and please tell me how did the ravens lose in the playoffs with out mentioning the fact that ravens players on offense wasnt able to get it done when needed.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

[quote name='RedFire' timestamp='1355093887' post='1253482']
Not so fast 2/4 last yr we were in the AFC champ game. We playing the proper ball...we just make the worse possible decisions and the worse time.
[/quote]

Not sure but i think you just said it is a bad call here or there correct ? Well i hate to tell you that this is a ongoing problem all season long that has us up against the wall. It i snot a call here or a call there. It is the general game play and the needs to adjust to changes that we do not adapt to. We could be leading by 14 points in the end of the first half just to give it away in the fourth.

Unless the game goes perfect for us we find a way to lose or need a lot of help from Special Teams orthe Lacking Defense.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355094075' post='1253493']

[/quote]But I have to; someone needs to give him a mouthful common sense

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1355093107' post='1253406']
I think we are paying a coach that won't ever take us to the promised land. I hope I'm made to eat them words
[/quote]
I'm sorry but if you make the playoffs five years in a row you get to stay.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355093706' post='1253464']
And how many Rings? Only one of them was as the AFC North champ, the rest as a wild card.

Last year we had the easiest schedule in the NFL. We still couldnt beat horrible teams like Jacksonville, Seattle and Tenn.

Stop making excuses. This team has ridden on the fumes of its talent and some luck. Now that talent is getting old and not being restocked, you will see what happens. 4/5 years of playoffs with no rings means poor draft picks and with the poor drafting this team has done since 2007, You really think we are going to do anything?
[/quote]

Instead of spouting off crap as you usually do, how about reading my post properly? I didn't make any excuses. The team [i]has[/i] done relatively well compared to most of the league the past four seasons. How they made the play-offs doesn't diminish the fact that they made it. And I think you'd find a lot of good NFL teams have lost to bad teams [b]every singe year.[/b]

[nk02442]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1355093798' post='1253473']
LOL just stop, nothing positive has ever come out of your mouth on this forum........ever. As soon as you said Ozzie has lost his touch your opinion just went down hill.
[/quote]



Tell about all the 1st 2nd and 3rd round wonders we have drafted. Ravens used to draft ProBowlers EVERY YEAR. For 5 years in a row, our first rounder was Pro Bowl quality player.

Besides Rice , Webb, and argubly Torrey (jury still out, drops alot of balls and poor route running/ Other half is Joe cant hit him in stride) what have we done?

Oher: Junk, Guess you didnt watch the game today
Kruger: 3 years and he is a situational pass rusher. Cant do anything without Suggs/Ngata getting doubled or coverage sacks
Cody: BUST, cant shed a block to save his life and is non factor in run game
Kindle: Dont even need to say it
JSMITH: Has not lived up to his 1st round pick, Always injured and poor coverage skills
Gooden: Where is he?
Dickson: Good thing we got him instead of Jimmy Grahm or Arron Hernandez. Couldnt catch a cold.
JReid: Only starting beacuse our Line is Horrendous. Poor blocking stats according to football insiders


Upshaw/Osemele still to early to know.


Man Ozzie has really hit some home runs the last 5 years...... Get real kid.

[nk02442]

[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' timestamp='1355093963' post='1253486']
If Hrbs is a good coach then why has Cam not changed his play calling or Pees redone his schemes or came better prepared for halftime adjustments friend. Unless they are made to do so they will not do it. You speak great words but just look at the facts and the fact is Harbs is a Spineless leader who just rides the tide. Good or Bad.
[/quote]

EXACTLY. Fact is Harbs doesnt know what he is doing, and wouldnt even know what to tell them to change. He is lost in the sauce and nothing but a figure head.

[jazz1988]

i guess this is the time when all the debbie downers come out but if the ravens missed the super bowl this year or even the playoffs im still a ravens fans regardless and i still will support john harbaugh because i believe he is a good head coach and that will continue to get better and better.

yes the ravens loss today but this loss doesn't mean the ravens are done. Some times we have to experience great loss to establish great change

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1355094214' post='1253508']
But I have to; someone needs to give him a mouthful common sense
[/quote]

They do not understand common sense

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355094463' post='1253527']
EXACTLY. Fact is Harbs doesnt know what he is doing, and wouldnt even know what to tell them to change. He is lost in the sauce and nothing but a figure head.
[/quote]

he's even that bad he's only got a 0.700 win ratio as head coach and this will be his only fifth straight year going to playoffs

[johnmike72]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355093291' post='1253427']
Harbs is a good coach, he aint the problem..... The other too could go die and I could care less(not literally die, just get out of the NFL)
[/quote]Harbs is NOT a good head coach, and the main reason is because he lets Cam run the offense any way he wants, and when the offense struggles Harbum doesnt have the wisdom to intervene.

[nk02442]

[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1355094089' post='1253495']
ummmm i think you need check the ravens defense ranking under greg mattison because i thought for sure they was ranked in some where in the top 10 ranking but i could be wrong lol and even with all that please tell me when did the ravens missed the playoffs and please tell me how did the ravens lose in the playoffs with out missing the fact that ravens players on offense wasnt able to get it done when needed.
[/quote]

You must have a short memory. I seem to remmeber Mattison years as the WORST next to this year. When you have a healthy and prime Suggs/Reed/Ngata/Lewis ect you are going to have a decent team.

Mattison WAS WAY worse that Pees. Pees may be a bad coach, but he has much less talent to work with than Mattison did.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355093291' post='1253427']
Harbs is a good coach, he aint the problem..... The other too could go die and I could care less(not literally die, just get out of the NFL)
[/quote]

You are saying Harbs is a good coach ? Why then is he not forcing changes to the offense or defense ? Why are there never made any half time adjustments ? Why would he allow the ball to be taken out of Rices hands ? Why Why Why !!

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1355094250' post='1253509']

I'm sorry but if you make the playoffs five years in a row you get to stay.
[/quote]he makes too many mistakes, he hasn't got a handle on this team. He's too conservative, doesn't have the balls to get us over the hump

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='horus13corvineus' timestamp='1355094561' post='1253535']


he's even that bad he's only got a 0.700 win ratio as head coach and this will be his only fifth straight year going to playoffs
[/quote]hes had one of, if not the most talented team in the last few years and hasn't done it. Then when we face adversity and when coaching really needs to pull you through we [profanity deleted] the bed.