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[Cville-Raven]

Look the quality of talent on this team is slowly starting to go down hill. Which is a shame considering our last two drafts have been pretty darn good; Its just that I feel we really need another one of those Defensive studs ala( Sizzle, Ngata, Reed). I think we should really trade up in this draft to get a good pass rusher. Obviously Jarvis Jones or Manti Teo is not going to happen, but if we can get into the top 15 that would be good. Picking at the end of the 1st round every year can hurt you in the long run, even if you're getting an overall solid player. This is what I would do; what do you guys think? Any good pass rushers that could fall into the middle of the draft or into the low 20's.

[Cville-Raven]

LOL double post, fail on my part

[Bravens292]

just please do not trade out of the 1st this year. we need to be more aggressive.

[Cville-Raven]

just please do not trade out of the 1st this year. we need to be more aggressive.

I agree, we need to get a serious baller. That being said I don't want to be too aggressive like Atlanta.

[rmw10]

100% agreed. It's time to stop drafting for depth. Is it nice? Yeah. But we need some bonafide stars on both sides of the ball. These above average players aren't getting it done. Get some potential superstars and get depth in FA.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

We need to trade for a crapload of draft picks..... IDC who we lose, anyone like a Jarvis Jones, Teo or Ogeltree are all fine in my book. I want Oz to find a way to trade into the top 5 to take Jones, and keep our pick so we can take Alec.

[Cville-Raven]

We need to trade for a crapload of draft picks..... IDC who we lose, anyone like a Jarvis Jones, Teo or Ogeltree are all fine in my book. I want Oz to find a way to trade into the top 5 to take Jones, and keep our pick so we can take Alec.

LOL dude didn't know Ozzie was also thomas Dimitroff

[T3hRaven]

I saw Ozzie and go off and thought you meant to Alabama. I would have been on board with that.

[Bltravens]

To be honest I don't even know if Teo would help this team that much. The ILB has gone the way of the FB in the NFL, it has become a less impactful position and teams don't require that much out of the position. It is extremely noticeable when a team has a legit 3 down ILB however. I don't see Teo in the mold of a Patrick Willis right now. We need pass rushers, point blank and interior ones at that. We need a guy to play the opposite DE position and to just slide Ngata to NT. Jones is becoming a legit 34 DE, penetrating constantly. Find a guy who can actually pass rush at the 3 tech and slide Ngata over.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

LOL dude didn't know Ozzie was also thomas Dimitroff

We need him to be. Javis Jones is the best OLB to come out in years, better than Miller, or Smith, or Matthews, might even be better than Suggs.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

To be honest I don't even know if Teo would help this team that much. The ILB has gone the way of the FB in the NFL, it has become a less impactful position and teams don't require that much out of the position. It is extremely noticeable when a team has a legit 3 down ILB however. I don't see Teo in the mold of a Patrick Willis right now. We need pass rushers, point blank and interior ones at that. We need a guy to play the opposite DE position and to just slide Ngata to NT. Jones is becoming a legit 34 DE, penetrating constantly. Find a guy who can actually pass rush at the 3 tech and slide Ngata over.

Ellerbe is filling in well. MLB is not our biggest need anymore. Datone Jones fits the mold. Dude is a stud.

[Cville-Raven]

We need him to be. Javis Jones is the best OLB to come out in years, better than Miller, or Smith, or Matthews, might even be better than Suggs.

Hmmm... true, but definitely a big risk

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Hmmm... true, but definitely a big risk

A risk I am willing to take. The problem is pass rush. DB's are fine, let Cary go, A healthy Jimmy and Webb is a good tandem. Zone is also a stupid system. Jarvis solves a lot of problems, Anthony Baar is also not a bad idea.

[Cville-Raven]

A risk I am willing to take. The problem is pass rush. DB's are fine, let Cary go, A healthy Jimmy and Webb is a good tandem. Zone is also a stupid system. Jarvis solves a lot of problems, Anthony Baar is also not a bad idea.

yeah Zone is really just a terrible system, since our Corners were better suited for man coverage.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

yeah Zone is really just a terrible system, since our Corners were better suited for man coverage.

Exactly. NO MORE ZONE!

[Limelight543]

As a UF fan Jones is a good and great talent expect the fact is hes wildly off and on..the best we can do imo is tank next season and draft Clowney from USCe(gamecocks) The kid is a once in a 10 year player...tell him to rush the pass and stop the run and he will be a top 10 DE first 2 years. Jones isnt a Clowney Jones is a good player though.

Teo is very over rated and only known of bc of his story and ND. he has a lot of INT's thats it Ryan Shaizer of OSU has 115 tackles 1 int 2 forced fumbles and 1 TD i would take that over 105 tackles 7 ints.

Sharrif Floyd from UF will be a good pick if hes there in the late 20's best idea imo. or Moore from T&M hes only 250 but he can put on weight and be a good DE imo. Also even John simmon from ohio state

Edited by Limelight543, 09 December 2012 - 08:40 PM.

[Cville-Raven]

As a UF fan Jones is a good and great talent expect the fact is hes wildly off and on..the best we can do imo is tank next season and draft Clowney from USCe(gamecocks) The kid is a once in a 10 year player...tell him to rush the pass and stop the run and he will be a top 10 DE first 2 years. Jones isnt a Clowney Jones is a good player though.

Teo is very over rated and only known of bc of his story and ND. he has a lot of INT's thats it Ryan Shaizer of OSU has 115 tackles 1 int 2 forced fumbles and 1 TD i would take that over 105 tackles 7 ints.

Sharrif Floyd from UF will be a good pick if hes there in the late 20's best idea imo. or Moore from T&M hes only 250 but he can put on weight and be a good DE imo. Also even John simmon from ohio state

Clowney is a freak, but I doubt we will tank a season

[Limelight543]

Clowney is a freak, but I doubt we will tank a season

You will see someone do it for him idk who lol...Kid is a legit top 10 DE the moment his name is called in the NFL draft he takes some plays off but when he only has FB to worry about kid will be a top 10 DE and finish top 5 in sacks first year of the nfl.

[ravefan52]

We need to keep our 1st rounder and get a NT or LB/DE. For NT I think John Jenkins and Louis Nix would be beasts and fit our scheme well. The outside linebackers class is really deep this year. If we traded up a bit we could maybe get Demontre Moore, Werner, Mingo or Montgomery. I bet one of them falls to the 20's. I think more important than what position they play we need a playmaker and another defensive star(lewis, reed, suggs).

[gabefergy]

We need him to be. Javis Jones is the best OLB to come out in years, better than Miller, or Smith, or Matthews, might even be better than Suggs.

Not at all man. Von Miller was a better prospect coming out and is looking like the DPOY. Jones is a beast, but he needs to get stronger and his injury history is a serious red flag.

If we were to trade up there are really only a few names that would make sense to me. I love Bjoern Werner but I am not sure he is a fit in a 3-4 front. Star Lotulelei is a beast and could be Ngata 2.0. Barkevious Mingo has incredible upside but might slip a bit because of lack of production. Sheldon Richardson is another guy who I would love to move up for. The combine will be big for a few of these players and draft stocks will change a lot. Another name to look out for is Ezekiel Ansah. Right now he is a fringe first rounder ( who I would love to take) but when he puts up ridiculous combine numbers I think his stock will skyrocket.