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Johnny "Football" Manziel Wins Heisman

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Congrats to the freshman. Loved watching him take Bama apart. Excited to see what he does going forward

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Much deserved. Tao could have easily won it also.

It makes me mad how Skip Bayless says Tao's the next Ray Lewis, I mean really?
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Shame was hoping Klein would somehow pull it out.

Manziel just has the look of a arrogant [profanity deleted] not to mention a criminal record
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[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1355019984' post='1249935']
Shame was hoping Klein would somehow pull it out.

Manziel just has the look of a arrogant [profanity deleted] not to mention a criminal record
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What makes you think he's arrogant? He's not even allowed to speak to the media.
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The ONLY reason he won the award: He's a quarterback. Tell me what bowl game did Johnny take Texas A & M to, The Cotton Bowl? What record did Johnny lead Texas A & M to, 10-2. While Te'o was apart of a team that went 12-0 and is playing for the National Title.

So they choose a guy who is playing in the Cotton Bowl over a player who is in the National Title Game?
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1355020139' post='1249939']


What makes you think he's arrogant? He's not even allowed to speak to the media.
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I'm judging a book by its cover , he just has the look of an arrogant and entitled person .
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[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1355021631' post='1249962']
[b]I'm judging a book by its cover[/b] , he just has the look of an arrogant and entitled person .
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You should always read the pages
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[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1355021631' post='1249962']


I'm judging a book by its cover , he just has the look of an arrogant and entitled person .
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He seems poised and humble too me. For a freshman in college he sounds like a nfl vet
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1355021254' post='1249956']
The ONLY reason he won the award: He's a quarterback. Tell me what bowl game did Johnny take Texas A & M to, The Cotton Bowl? What record did Johnny lead Texas A & M to, 10-2. While Te'o was apart of a team that went 12-0 and is playing for the National Title.

So they choose a guy who is playing in the Cotton Bowl over a player who is in the National Title Game?
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While i agree Te'o should've won, you can't really look at it like that. RG3 won over Trent Richardson last year, and obviously he wasn't in the title game. And I'm sure there's been others.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1355022710' post='1249970']
He seems poised and humble too me. [b]For a freshman in college he sounds like a nfl vet[/b]
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There's NFL analysts on twitter that were saying the same thing.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1355021254' post='1249956']
The ONLY reason he won the award: He's a quarterback. Tell me what bowl game did Johnny take Texas A & M to, The Cotton Bowl? What record did Johnny lead Texas A & M to, 10-2. While Te'o was apart of a team that went 12-0 and is playing for the National Title.

So they choose a guy who is playing in the Cotton Bowl over a player who is in the National Title Game?
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Um, not only is he a QB, but he's a freshman that broke a TON of records who also beat #1 Alabama on the road.

Te'o had an amazing year and has a amazing story, but for a [b]freshman[/b] to put up the numbers Manziel did (over 3,400 yards passing, 24 TD's, 8 INT's, over 1,100 yards rushing & 19 TDs!) against the SEC, is mighty impressive and ultra deserving.
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1355023302' post='1249976']
There's NFL analysts on twitter that were saying the same thing.
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I heard it after the interview of him on sportscenter earlier today and I agree. He sounds just like Steve Young to me lol
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1355021254' post='1249956']
The ONLY reason he won the award: He's a quarterback. Tell me what bowl game did Johnny take Texas A & M to, The Cotton Bowl? What record did Johnny lead Texas A & M to, 10-2. While Te'o was apart of a team that went 12-0 and is playing for the National Title.

So they choose a guy who is playing in the Cotton Bowl over a player who is in the National Title Game?
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He set the SEC total yardage record. The last two to do this were Newton and Tebow and they both won the Heisman that year. I think Manziel deserved it.
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I'm glad Manziel won. Te'o was a nice story, but to me Manziel clearly was the best candidate. His play was remarkable for a freshman starting in the SEC. He made some of the best defenses in the nation look [b]silly[/b] and set a ton of records in the process. Well deserved.
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Does anyone know if an offensive lineman or kicker has ever won the Heisman? Just curious, because it's been so historically skewed in favor of score-makers.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1355023673' post='1249980']
Um, not only is he a QB, but he's a freshman that broke a TON of records who also beat #1 Alabama on the road.

Te'o had an amazing year and has a amazing story, but for a [b]freshman[/b] to put up the numbers Manziel did (over 3,400 yards passing, 24 TD's, 8 INT's, over 1,100 yards rushing & 19 TDs!) against the SEC, is mighty impressive and ultra deserving.
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A freshman who had a good first year. While it's impressive, can he consistently post good stats or is he a one year wonder. That's my problem, I want to see him post these stats again and do it on a consistent basis. If he can't, he'll prove to be a one year wonder.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1355025980' post='1250000']
A freshman who had a good first year. While it's impressive, can he consistently post good stats or is he a one year wonder. That's my problem, I want to see him post these stats again and do it on a consistent basis. If he can't, he'll prove to be a one year wonder.
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As it happens, the Heisman Award is a yearly award, so it is proper that Manziel won it!
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1355019620' post='1249929']
Much deserved. Tao could have easily won it also.

It makes me mad how Skip Bayless says Tao's the next Ray Lewis, I mean really?
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I think that too. But now I hate my opinon bc tastless has it now. IDK much about the guy, but I looked at his tape. He deserved it, well done. Now
[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1355025103' post='1249991']
I'm glad Manziel won. Te'o was a nice story, but to me Manziel clearly was the best candidate. His play was remarkable for a freshman starting in the SEC. He made some of the best defenses in the nation look [b]silly[/b] and set a ton of records in the process. Well deserved.
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Now lets hope our boy Hundley wins it in a few years. My father doesnt think that Johnny Football is a capable QB in the NFL. What do you all think?
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355029058' post='1250009']
I think that too. But now I hate my opinon bc tastless has it now. IDK much about the guy, but I looked at his tape. He deserved it, well done. Now

Now lets hope our boy Hundley wins it in a few years. My father doesnt think that Johnny Football is a capable QB in the NFL. What do you all think?
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I think Manziel is a freshman in college who has plenty of time to grow. It's too soon to talk about his pro career.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1355029757' post='1250017']
I think Manziel is a freshman in college who has plenty of time to grow. It's too soon to talk about his pro career.
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My (completly biased) favorite prospect is Brett Hundley the next few years. Dude has a rocket arm, 4.1 GPA, and can run a 4.3 forty yard dash all at 6'4
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1355029854' post='1250018']
My (completly biased) favorite prospect is Brett Hundley the next few years. Dude has a rocket arm, 4.1 GPA, and can run a 4.3 forty yard dash all at 6'4
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Completely biased? Are you Brett Hundley?
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Manziel seriously deserved it, but I would have liked to have seen Te'o take it home. The Heisman is basically the "best-halfback-or-quarterback-of-the-year" award.
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Guys like Manti Te'o don't have a shot, I just checked and it looks like six out of 78 Heismans have been handed out to a non-running back or quarterback, from 1935-2012. Charles Woodson, who played corner and some wide receiver at Michigan, was the last in 1997.

I hate that view of football, that it's all about the star QB or RB and everyone else is just a pawn in their story, or any Tebow/Terrell Owens type fascination with one player, but the Heisman falls into that same dopey marginalization of most positions. It seems a casual football fan's way of seeing football, without bothering to learn the importance or names of non-superstar offensive players.

That being said, Manziel is obviously impressive.
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[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1355277699' post='1258645']
Forget the Heisman.. You see his girlfriend? Wowsers!
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I guess if you want a hot wife/girlfriend be a Texas A&M QB cause Tannehill's wife is even better.
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[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1355539736' post='1261270']
I guess if you want a hot wife/girlfriend be a Texas A&M QB cause Tannehill's wife is even better.
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Got it.... Gameplan
Step one. Get ripped
Step Two: Become starting QB for my HS
Step Three: Go to Texas A&M and win Heisman....
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