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[News] Who's Playing, Who's Not vs. Redskins

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Suggs is questionable, while Ellerbe and Dickson are out for the second week.

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Dickson i can live with being out as he is a 50/50 with his hands but Ellerbe hurts bad. Brendon is less then NFL talent. Oh yeah, c'mon Suggs.
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Next man up - let's bring it to FedEx boys, let's rock that stadium and walk away with a big W.
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If Suggs sits this game out, then I'm glad to know that Kruger is finally acting like the LB that the Ravens deserve.
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You know Josh Wilson is gonna be playing with something to prove, like all former ravens. But he's never seen the likes of Torrey in real life.
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I hope that all the Ravens players will come together, and this is a total team effort and the Ravens have to prove all the doubters wrong about Joe Flacco, and I know that Joe can do it baby!! Lets go Joe and the offense, and Cam please make a good gameplan.
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I really miss Ellerbe, too. That is the one guy that could stop the run this year. It's time for Kruger to step up again. Also, we need McClellan to start to earn his contract.
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Just don't sleep on Alfred Morris. Mike Shannahan is a great coach and will have a good game-plan coming in. I expect them to take notes from when we played Dallas and KC. I just hope our LB can hold up this is the best running we will face all yr, and they will run 30 plus x in this game.
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Yeah this has got to be the most beat up Ravens team I've ever seen. Way too many star players hurt this yr. Still were 9-3, but we still get hated on. I here this all day from my brother how sorry we are and he's a Dallas fan. lol Go figure.
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I hate to pee on the parade but, if the Ravens don't win this game, they could be in trouble. The Bronco's looked pretty good against the Raiders in Oakland last night and then you are looking at a possible 3 game losing streak. Ouch.
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Ellerbe's abscence is really going to show up now. RG3 is going to have a field day running around. He won't get any runs into the end zone as we step up and reassert our dominance over the Beltway rivals. They have confidence but we are going to impose our will on them.
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I remember fans getting upset because Ozzie used a 2nd round tender to keep Ellerbe in Baltimore. They didn't think he was worth it. Now I see people thinking our defense is doomed without him. idk, I just find it, funny. ANYWAYS..... go ravens
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Dude we did way better against oakland then Denver did. Divison games are always closer though but don't underestimate this Ravens team. We just have to be more consistant on offense because the weapons are there and this D isn't that bad they have just been put in bad positions this yr because of our offense. If we stay dedicated to the run and don't bail-out of it when were down by a score or are only getting 3yd gains, we have to give Rice the oprutunity to break one off because thats the kinda back he is. He's a workhorce who isn't being driven. Just saying Flacco does better when Rice gets the ball more it's just fact the last 4 or so yrs. Cam Cameron needs to step his game up and stop having Joe launch the ball 40 plus yrds every drive its a waste of a down that we do way to often. Big plays will come in time, but you have to eat up the clock with the run and quick passes. We need more quick 5-10 yrd throws just as brady does in his offense. Flacco has the arm strength and I don't see how a team could stop him from throwing the ball as fast as he does if we start doing more quick slants, drags, te pop plays, etc. Cam Cameron this is your game to lose so as a coach step your game up and get your head outta your dookie hole.
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The Ravens D looks a Mash Unit. I do not ever remember them having to overcome this many injuries, but if any team can it would be the RAVENS!!! It is not only next man up it is next group of men, or as Harbaugh says Mighty Men UP!!! Go Ravens!!!
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bend but don't break. I fully expect the skins to move the ball, but our defense excels in turnovers and redzone stops. That needs to be full force come Sunday.
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Hightower Burfict looks like we def should have went after them especially chanced it with Burfict ,because we had nothing to lose on Him at all ,sometimes i question are scouting Dept,we used to be the best at drafting ,but thats far from the case anymore i mean we usually find 1 guy in the last i would say 4 years that has had promise ,but everyone else was a bust,all never Forget 96 when we took Ogden and Ray Lewis ,that was up there with the best draft ever ,Anyways i do hope Chris Johnson is able to go ,i really believe eventually he will seat Cary Williams ,But i also know this is def a must win this week because that pressure will be lifted as we face a Difficult stretch in the Broncos Giants and Bengals ,however on the bright side of things all those teams are Misleading in a sense ,everyone keeps talking about our Record,but if we were in denvers division we would have already clinched ,and the Giants and Bengals Have not been amazing by any stretch either ,so anything can Happen ,and anything can happen come late Dec in bad weather ,Injuries ect ,i still Believe this team can rise to the Occasion and Prove every idiotic analyst Incorrect.
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Hey I agree when I used to talk about Burfict I would get - everytime. I thought he was a pretty decent player in college regardless of the issues he had when there. With not being drafted I just didn't see a reason why we didn't go for him and I also said the same thing for Danario Alexander out of Mizz when he was undrafted because of knee injuries. I said he would be a good player once healthy and it looks like he's been doing a good job. If I can see simple things like this why can't the Ravens scouting department. All we have are average players or busts of late. Alexander would be great for this team right now if we had signed him. We need a big wr.
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its good to know im not alone hereon this one,i mean just for fun every year i make my own Big Board up of all the players ,and all the players i feel will drop to us or close to it,i have been pretty dead on Last several years ,and then there were head scratchers,i feel we Go after Players for need ,that doesn't always work ,i miss the Days when we actually did go for players best available on the Board by the time we actually Draft ,I mean last draft Upshaw was not the best up there ,we should have jumped up and Grabbed Hightower and hell we could have even come away with Burfict as well,and that would have been a good draft ,considering the major needs then would have been once we could easily address in FA or Go year by year because we do have a open window ,but its closing every year ,Ray and reed cant go for ever and it hurts me as a Fan to see were completely forgeting about the defense and were going all offense,as Ray says defense wins championships ,and looking at the Playoff Picture esp this year it is 100% dead on.
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The Skins r going to test the defense more than any other team. The way Brady could find Edelman or Welker or Gronk is similar in the way the Skins can use the pistol. So the Ravens have to contain him all day to prevent the big play. He doesn't need to hit a Torrey Smith to open the field. Kruger and Jones, Upshaw and Suggs, Williams and Graham all have to be able to contain. The pass rushing will be up to the interior, Ngata. If Pees doesn't change up the plan and thinks he can tweak it it's going to be a long day. Anyway they need to hold the Skins to under 20 for Joe to give the Ravens a chance.
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I don't think they had a chance to get Hightower. This is just a guess but NE made deals that the Ravens just couldn't match. Belechick went after Hightower almost out of spite because "word" was Oz liked him a lot and knew he could wait for round 2 to get Courtney. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if there's going to be a big diff there over their respective careers. The linemen who were already chosen were the gems but hey u get only so many picks. It just seems like they're down to as someone wrote a Mash Unit with players who haven't been tested while other teams have guys who can play out of the gate. I'm pretty sure the grass is always greener.... and every team has its injuries in Dec. I still hope the Ravens can put their best games together in December when it counts. I know they'll try and I don't care what Cam or Pees or harbs has in mind. Players are on the field. Tomorrow......
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This Article should read"Players that should play vs. Redskins"Too many wideouts on the bench,that won,t play sunday.Too many plays that won,t get called this sunday.Too much talent going to waste because of one sorry coordinator.
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Ya, I see that the injuries are due to our OC....SMH
Get a new speil, this one is getting old!
I hear Cam is also the reason the world is going to end on Dec 21st.
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If Cam went on Ir and Jim Caldwell filled in maybe Joe Flacco could be the elite QB that Ozzie drafted. Where is the game plan that I can't predict about 70% of the coming plays? Where was Cam successful? I will give Cam credit for last year but Lee Evans was playing because Cam sent him in. Too much talent to be so bad on the road. 33 miles ain't a road trip. CAM is done!
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[quote name='KidNme' timestamp='1354974918' post='1249542']
Ya, I see that the injuries are due to our OC....SMH
Get a new speil, this one is getting old!
I hear Cam is also the reason the world is going to end on Dec 21st.
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You can,t play real football or even madden with the same plays week to week.
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A couple things about the draft...

1. We could have had Hightower... if we do what other teams do, and trade away a bunch of picks for one MLB. If we did that, we would be in the same spot the Redskins and Raiders find themselves in now. That would be mediocre to below average teams who invested highly in one or two players (who are good not great) and now have virtually no chance of adding young talent via the draft next year. Rule #1 in the NFL... if you don't improve, you get worse. Staying the same always leads to less wins, even if you win the Superbowl.

2. Nobody should ever regret drafting Vontaze Burfict. Anybody that watched college and combine tape on this guy knew that about 50% of the time he just simply didn't seem to care about football. He didn't take plays off, he took entire games off. There was 1-2 games specifically that I watched him where he literally looked like a liability on the field.

And note... every other team in the league thought the same way. It's why at his peak he was considered a late 1st or early 2nd round pick, and he ultimately went as an UDFA to a team that is notorious for gambling on players with major baggage (and usually failing). And he isn't any better than Dannel Ellerbe, so I find this notion that we should have had him to be silly.

3. There's really no reason to compare our draft tactics to the Patriots. They do it better than anybody, mostly because they have no problem selling off high priced talent just after their prime (Richard Seymour) to a team for a boatload of picks, then swapping those picks for better picks when they feel the draft is soft.

If we really didn't like the guys in the draft last year, then we should have traded the pick away and built up stock for next year. The problem was that this was one of the rare years where I think the Ravens felt like we had too many needs, since we let major players on our linebacking core and defensive line go. I think we felt like we had to get a LB no matter what.

Ultimately, it almost always takes at least 2-3 years to judge how a draft class will do.
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Adrian Hamilton? Nigel Carr? somebody? please rush the passer! Upshaw looks lost......maybe it's the scheme but Charlie Batch evaded us. Good CBs come from a harried QB. Our scheme just like the offense remains in the paST with Ray Lewis&Ed Reed great old vets but the game has changed and no one can avoid the rush of father time.
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[quote name='KidNme' timestamp='1354974918' post='1249542']
Ya, I see that the injuries are due to our OC....SMH
Get a new speil, this one is getting old!
I hear Cam is also the reason the world is going to end on Dec 21st.
[/quote] this is the best post that has ever been written i may even be tempted to copy and paste it to every fire cam rant lol
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The amount of defensive starters and second-tiered defensive players injured in relation to the offensive injuries actually does say something quite disturbing about smash-mouth football and a ball control game scheme! Neither have we shown in abundance this season!

I guess Three-and-Outs can also translate into player safety!
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As I look at the Ravens, I really have to question the once-revered Ozzie Newsome. This guy has bombed in recent drafts, especially the 2010 Draft, where Dennis Pitta is the only decent player he selected in that one. Ozzie has been way too passive in these drafts ... trading out of the 1st Round in order to stockpile picks, but then he drafts guys like Terrence Cody and Sergio Kindle, AND Ed Dickson. I'm sorry, but Dickson is a bum. He rarely if ever contributes on offense, and when he IS thrown to, he usually drops the ball. He has butter fingers worse than Travis Taylor. THey need to part ways with him, as well as Kemeoatu, McClellan, and some of these offensive linemen (ie Matt Birk, Bobby Williams, Ramon Harewood).

The Ravens have 3 key areas that need addressed in the 2013 Draft .... LEFT GUARD, NOSE TACKLE and INSIDE LINEBACKER. THe only way Ozzie can effectively address what needs to be addressed, is to trade a player or 2, as well as his 2014 First-Round Pick, and move up so that the team picks TWICE on Day One. THe players I'd target (if it were me) are Alec Ogletree from Georgia, and Warmack, the Left Guard from Alabama. And oh yeah ... it also might not hurt to sign a viable backup QB. Just so he's there on the bench, to worry Flacco.
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BigDawgG, lol bro the draft is the only area where we DONT choke. Its our players who can't seem to take their game to the next level, specifically our offense. Our D is doing what it can in spite of injuries. what excuse does the O have for being mediocre? your offense is only going to go so far as Joe Flacco takes them and right now his ability to get sacked by not moving when necessary and lack of awareness is killing us. the best o line in the world couldn't have saved him last week when he repeatedly got sacked after 2-3 seconds of drop back time. flacco is too inconsistent to lead us past the AFC championship, and thats when the team is healthy. its sad because all the talent Ozzie has gotten us is going to waste. we'll be picking 25-29 for a long time.
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Well Chevalier, I can think of numerous solid players and some IMPACT players that Newsome has passed on in recent years. Tell me, if he's such a good talent evaluator, then explain Kyle Boller to me. Or how about 2005 when he drafted Mark Clayton and his Oklahoma teammate Dan Cody ... both were busts. 2007 he drafted Ben Grubbs, who never fully lived up to his draft-day billing and Yamon Figurs. Torrey Smith is the only good receiver that Ozzie has EVER drafted, and he's a Number 2 at best. I don't see why everyone keeps talking about how fast Smith is, he runs a 40-yard dash in 4.41 seconds ... sorry, but that isn't "blazing fast" or anything. Look at our last 2 drafts, the top players selected were Jimmy Smith and Courtney Upshaw. The jury is still out on both.
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And you can call Flacco indecisive and whatnot all you want, but if everyone is covered down the field, and pass rushers are constantly in his face, then what would you have him do? With this mess of an offensive line, there's no way they'll be able to beat Houston. The playoff win against them last year was almost flukish, because they were in Flacco's face for much of that game too, and the O-Line couldn't punch the ball into the endzone in that game on a 3rd and Goal. The following week they weren't able to get Ray Rice going because of the line, and Vince Wilfork had his way with Matt Birk and Ben Grubbs. The talent level on much of this team has diminished in recent years. They've lost defensive contributors such as Adaleus Thomas, Bart Scott, J. Johnson, Kelly Gregg, Trevor Pryce and so on, and they've tried to replace them with a handful of marbles and some duct tape.
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@BigDawgG below me. You said that our win over the Texans last season was a fluke.

Dont forget that last season and every season before that our defense was top notch more or less depending on injuries.

And about how we've been drafting recently isn't all Ozzies fault. Remember that we have scouts who are supposed to find good players for us.

Yes some of our recent draft picks have been busts or just not the type of players we should of been drafting to fill missing shoes especially on the defense. I can't argue with you about that.

But some of the players we drafted have no excuse of why they shouldn't be playing good football like Jimmy Smith and Tommy Streeter.

For Jimmy Smith it's more so his fualt than our scouts. I think that the spotlight of being in the NFL is hurting the way he play's but hopefully that will change.

As for Tommy Streeter I think he will be one of our best recievers when he gets healthy.

I don't care if any of my fellow fans dissagree with me. That kid is 6 foot 5 inches and 220 lb more or less. Thats the type of reciever we need in the lineup.

And don't forget that we drafted Ray Rice.
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The main reason we do not execute on offense is because of our offensive scheme...period. Yes, there are some plays where we can execute better but game planning "offensively" is what kills us right out of the gate.
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@BigDawgG - I totally disagree with you about Ozzie. He is by far the best talent analyst out there. He is by far batting over .700 with his picks. We have had winning season for 4 years. Do you know how hard it is to MAKE talent out of people that dont have high stats, or drafted higher? He sees things others do not. We have depth to take the hit with all of these injuries. We are still 9-3 with ALL of the injuries. Most teams would have folded with our defense having such a bad DC, and OC. There is a reason why everyone says Ozzie is the BEST ever. No one will draft all hall of famers, but guess who HAS drafted the most Hall of famers, or soon to be hall of famers? Ozzie, period...
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We cant be soft in midfield. WE HAVE TO TACKLE!!! We HAVE to contain RG3. We HAVE to exploit the weak secondary, but dont start throwing like crazy UNTIL Ray rice gets 20 touches. Then the Secondary will be there for the picking. Jacoby needs to run back one today as well. The field will be a mess, so run 80% 1st half, and then blow their secondary up in the second half.
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Everyone knows what Cam will do all they have to do, is figure out what the BEST plan would be against a certain team, and do the exact opposite...
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Courtney Upshaw, has a chance here, BUT, i've been saying since college that he HAS to LOSE WEIGHT. This kid is TOO FAT, HE'S SLOW. Anybody know the name Rolando McClain? 8th pick overall from ALABAMA by the Raiders, middle linebacker? He's no longer with the Raiders, he's a free agent. You know where i'm going right?
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By the way i had Jimmy Smith's surgery. When Harbaugh say's he, "broke up some scar tissue and that's really importanat," that's also really painfull and he will be really sore when he stops moving. But he could be back next week, they will need him, just watch out if he gets hit or falls on it! OOOUUUUCCCHHH!
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