Week 14 - Baltimore Ravens at Washington Redskins

[nk02442]

[quote name='admartian' timestamp='1355090457' post='1253065']
I still find it funny how Flacco is suppose to rush the passer, cover the WR/TEs and tackle RBs.

Injuries happen.

The Pack went to the SB with injuries, the Giants the same, and show me a team that has gone through a season without at least [b]1[/b] minor injury.

This is not a Flacco apology post - this is the get your head out of the defense's [profanity deleted] post.
[/quote]


Packers have a Great QB, Giants have a Great QB.

Ravens have a poor QB......................See if the difference?

[BMORE_96]

flacco is not a bust. it was a team loss. it was the teams fault for allowing the punt return, the drive down field in the fourth quarter, the inability to prevent turnovers on offense. AS A TEAM, the ravens choked the game away.

the ravens need to learn to FINISH.

However, we have finsihed a lot of games this season. (Chargers, Patriots, Browns, Cowboys, and etc)

[tricky27/20]

[size=4][size=5]ok ravens to do list[/size][/size]

[size=5]1 fire cam [/size]

[size=5]2 trade joe flacco[/size]

[size=5]3 draft manti teo[/size]

[size=5]4 trade up in draft for a pass rusher or a corner [/size]

[RavensReign]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355090519' post='1253074']
Packers have a Great QB, Giants have a Great QB.

Ravens have a poor QB......................See if the difference?
[/quote]

No reason to use this forum to insult other members. Remember we are on the same team nk02442.

[Grendelwulf21]

I say we keep Flacco, fire cam and get a better o-line, and then we can see how Flacco really does, because our o-line looks like a bunch of statues

[admartian]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355090519' post='1253074']
Packers have a Great QB, Giants have a Great QB.

Ravens have a poor QB......................See if the difference?
[/quote]Flacco is average to good.

He doesn't lose us games, or rather very rarely does. Is he elite/great? No.

But he isn't even the biggest problem to this team. It is game planning and the defensive play (injuries or not - people forget we were [profanity deleted]e before all the injuries too).

If you can [i][u][b]truly[/b][/u][/i] look at this [size=5][u][b]logically[/b][/u][/size], you will see it that while Joe cannot carry the team by himself a la Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Brees) that he's good enough to win (and has won) games for us in the past (Billy Cundiff and Lee Evans away from a what if Superbowl scenario).

He just needs help more than some of those guys do. Nothing wrong with that - Not all 32 QBs (heck even 16 QBs) can be "elite" level. There's about 4 or 5 in the NFL today. The rest are more less like Joe with just better/worse help (and some just absolutely terrible, of coruse) etc.

He didn't get that help today.

Nor did he last week.

Now show me what about this is wrong or incorrect? I'll show you denial in return.

[cobrajet]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355090519' post='1253074']
Packers have a Great QB, Giants have a Great QB.

Ravens have a poor QB......................See if the difference?
[/quote]
My God did he take a major step back in his fifth season!!!!!!!!!!!

[jdynamite]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355082578' post='1251455']


The ball was 4 feet over his head. That was ALL flacco. Hes not superman with a rocket up his arse.
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We talking about 2 totally different passes dude. I commented on the 4 feet pass by saying even Calvin Johnson couldn't get that. The comment that u quoted was regarding the pass on the sidelines that Torrey actually got hands on followed by a hit by D.Hall called a PF.

[admartian]

How can a logically, thought out, that contains no personal insults to anyone be negged?

Butthurt must be the answer!

(now [b][i]this[/i][/b] is neggable!)

[nk02442]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1355091158' post='1253166']
We talking about 2 totally different passes dude. I commented on the 4 feet pass by saying even Calvin Johnson couldn't get that. The comment that u quoted was regarding the pass on the sidelines that Torrey actually got hands on followed by a hit by D.Hall called a PF.
[/quote]
Sorry, Misinterpreted.

[cobrajet]

[quote name='tricky27/20' timestamp='1355090666' post='1253100']
[size=4][size=5]ok ravens to do list[/size][/size]

[size=5]1 fire cam [/size]

[size=5]2 trade joe flacco[/size]

[size=5]3 draft manti teo[/size]

[size=5]4 trade up in draft for a pass rusher or a corner [/size]
[/quote]
Yeah wee need some drastic moves around here, because we are declining fast with what we presently have.

[H8R]

Ahhh, yes... Another horrible loss..

[luvrayrice27]

another week of treating RGIII like a frickin god....im really just dreading this week...i respect his game but this game made me not like the skins

[H8R]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1355091307' post='1253188']

Yeah wee need some drastic moves around here, because we are declining fast with what we presently have.
[/quote]

Suggs Injury, Ray Lewis Injury, Webb Injury, shotty oline, inconsistent Flacco...

[nk02442]

[quote name='admartian' timestamp='1355090852' post='1253124']
Flacco is average to good.

He doesn't lose us games, or rather very rarely does. Is he elite/great? No.

But he isn't even the biggest problem to this team. It is game planning and the defensive play (injuries or not - people forget we were [profanity deleted]e before all the injuries too).

If you can [i][u][b]truly[/b][/u][/i] look at this [size=5][u][b]logically[/b][/u][/size], you will see it that while Joe cannot carry the team by himself a la Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Brees) that he's good enough to win (and has won) games for us in the past (Billy Cundiff and Lee Evans away from a what if Superbowl scenario).

He just needs help more than some of those guys do. Nothing wrong with that - Not all 32 QBs (heck even 16 QBs) can be "elite" level. There's about 4 or 5 in the NFL today. The rest are more less like Joe with just better/worse help (and some just absolutely terrible, of coruse) etc.

He didn't get that help today.

Nor did he last week.

Now show me what about this is wrong or incorrect? I'll show you denial in return.
[/quote]

Joe is not even a top 10 QB.

Unless you have been sleeping for the last 10 years, NO non-top QB has won a superbowl since Tampa in 2001.

He has lost us MANY GAMES. Mind you he has won some, but you are nuts if you think he hasnt cost us games. Just off the top of my head 2008 AFCC Game, throwing stupid picks and strip sack by TroyP. I guess that wasnt his fault either?

We can either keep Harbaugh Joe and company, NEVER WIN A Superbowl, maybe limp into some playoffs

Or try something else.

Fact is what he have does not work and will not win a championship. Either make changes or continue to lose.

Ownership does not care. As long as they are selling out games and selling jerseys and hot dogs, rolling in profits from TV deals, they are content.

[tricky27/20]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1355091307' post='1253188']
Yeah wee need some drastic moves around here, because we are declining fast with what we presently have.
[/quote][size=4] 5 whats going on with matt ryans contract[/size]

[nk02442]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1355091515' post='1253219']
Suggs Injury, Ray Lewis Injury, Webb Injury, shotty oline, inconsistent Flacco...
[/quote]

Suggs has been a non factor since hes been back
RLEWIS is over the hill and a liability, Has been for a few years and wont make a difference
Webb really hurts, but he is one out of 11
Oline has been bad for years
Flacco has never been good

Dont make excuses.

[admartian]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355091543' post='1253224']
Joe is not even a top 10 QB.

Unless you have been sleeping for the last 10 years, NO non-top QB has won a superbowl since Tampa in 2001.

He has lost us MANY GAMES. Mind you he has won some, but you are nuts if you think he hasnt cost us games. Just off the top of my head 2008 AFCC Game, throwing stupid picks and strip sack by TroyP. I guess that wasnt his fault either?

We can either keep Harbaugh Joe and company, NEVER WIN A Superbowl, maybe limp into some playoffs

Or try something else.

Fact is what he have does not work and will not win a championship. Either make changes or continue to lose.

Ownership does not care. As long as they are selling out games and selling jerseys and hot dogs, rolling in profits from TV deals, they are content.
[/quote]The funny thing is, I don't actually think you grasped my post (no insult, just an observation). Nothing in there did I say is he a top 10 QB lol.

Read my post again, maybe 2-3 more times and when you understand, let us know.

I don't want to get into a back and forth with someone that cannot even understand what I am trying to say (I've tried to clean up some typos etc too) and will just end up...well, not pretty.

So to politely save time, effort, and stress, I'll just wait until you (and others like you ) to get it.

A gentleman's agreement of sorts.

[Medications]

Fact is skins are beginning a period of being competitive and relevant, and we're entering a period of irrelevant mediocrity, we've switched places

[H8R]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1355091632' post='1253241']


Suggs has been a non factor since hes been back
RLEWIS is over the hill and a liability, Has been for a few years and wont make a difference
Webb really hurts, but he is one out of 11
Oline has been bad for years
Flacco has never been good

Dont make excuses.
[/quote]

Excuses? those are FACTS. As for Flacco never being good?... that's opinion.

[ravne05]

Steve take the Mic and tell Ravens fans that you made a huge mistake keeping Cameron and your sorry for being a lack luster owner who watches his investment tank week after week and does nothing about it.

[H8R]

[quote name='Medications' timestamp='1355091762' post='1253260']
Fact is skins are beginning a period of being competitive and relevant, and we're entering a period of irrelevant mediocrity, we've switched places
[/quote]

Eat a bullet.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

[quote name='tricky27/20' timestamp='1355090666' post='1253100']
[size=5]ok ravens to do list[/size]

[size=5]1 fire cam [/size]

[size=5]2 trade joe flacco[/size]

[size=5]3 draft manti teo[/size]

[size=5]4 trade up in draft for a pass rusher or a corner [/size]
[/quote]

1 ok... who next?
2 who's gonna qb the team, are we dunking next season?
3 he'll play qb?!
4 webb is a corner! sizzle's a pass rusher! no need to trade up, we can get players were we'll be if we so want

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

[quote name='tricky27/20' timestamp='1355091578' post='1253231']
5 whats going on with matt ryans contract
[/quote]

5 who cares about that anyway?

[Ravenglenn]

10-6 looks like our best hope.

[ravne05]

Watching Cams offense and Pees Defense is like watching a game of electric football

[tricky27/20]

[quote name='horus13corvineus' timestamp='1355091864' post='1253275']
1 ok... who next?
2 who's gonna qb the team, are we dunking next season?
3 he'll play qb?!
4 webb is a corner! sizzle's a pass rusher! no need to trade up, we can get players were we'll be if we so want
[/quote] for the low n steady lol
[size=5]1 fire cam cameron[/size]
[size=5]2 trade joe flacco to [/size][i]Arizona[/i]
[i][size=5]3 draft manti teo mlb(ray lewis retires)[/size][/i]
[i][size=5]4(cary willams is gone this year and im sure this is paul krugers last contract year)[/size][/i]
[i][size=5]5 whats up with matt ryans contract [/size][/i]

[tricky27/20]

[quote name='horus13corvineus' timestamp='1355091966' post='1253291']
5 who cares about that anyway?
[/quote] matt ryans better than joe why not get him

[cobrajet]

I am just glad to see that I am not alone being so negative right now. I was so pissed today when I left the bar I cursed every word in the book at least 100 times on the way home. I get on blogs and I at least take comfort that all my friends are also pissed and like to vent too. It is so theraputic for me and I thank everyone for helping me bring down my blood pressure right now.

[ravne05]

When Flacco boards the team plane does the team have to point to the big shiny tube thats in front of him.