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[News] Injury Report 12/6: Terrell Suggs Returns To Practice, Doesn't Wear Brace

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The outside linebacker participated in a limited capacity. Ellerbe and Dickson were still out.

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Hopefully this is a good sign evrn if he doesnt play this week. Im glad that Johnson is back. Chykie looked rough last week. We need all the help we can get. But possibly no Ellerbe is a major blow.
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I am encouraged that Johnson is back we just need to scrape by until more guys get healthy .
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Who knows, maybe T Sizzle will line up on 3rd downs and take Robert out with a nice legal shot to the ribs. :)


Cam must go !!!
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come on suggs we need you so bad man get better soon and ellerbe we need him back like now. good to hear chris johnson is back though.
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[quote name='purpletruck52' timestamp='1354835931' post='1248367']
Does anybody else think we should get Norv Turner as our OC since hes out at the end of the season?
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I don't know man. He seems to be a pretty predictable playcaller himself. Just look at their roster. He seems to think the key to victory are size-freak recievers. Not too much originality there.
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[quote name='reed20fence' timestamp='1354836642' post='1248379']
I don't know man. He seems to be a pretty predictable playcaller himself. Just look at their roster. He seems to think the key to victory are size-freak recievers. Not too much originality there.
[/quote] I like Cam as a person but, I think we should get Brian Billeck as our OC, but that just my opinion feel free to comment back. i would like to keep Cam, but I don't know what, any ideas?Go Ravens!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote name='reed20fence' timestamp='1354836642' post='1248379']
I don't know man. He seems to be a pretty predictable playcaller himself. Just look at their roster. He seems to think the key to victory are size-freak recievers. Not too much originality there.
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Yea i see what your sayin but wouldnt he be better than cam? I mean its probably not that hard to be more creative than Cameron. Sometimes i swear he forgets we have capable TEs and Pro Bowl RR. Its kind of disappointing that next game our offense does awesome and the website's headlines are "Offense bails out Defense" and everyone forgets about how plain and one dimensional Cam Cameron can be.
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I give immense props to Terrel Suggs to come back after that bicep injury to be practicing right now. But wear the damn brace!
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[quote name='purpletruck52' timestamp='1354837705' post='1248393']
Yea i see what your sayin but wouldnt he be better than cam? I mean its probably not that hard to be more creative than Cameron. Sometimes i swear he forgets we have capable TEs and Pro Bowl RR. Its kind of disappointing that next game our offense does awesome and the website's headlines are "Offense bails out Defense" and everyone forgets about how plain and one dimensional Cam Cameron can be.
[/quote]Or maybe its that Flacco hasn't lived up to that 1st round expectation yet. Sometimes I even forget that he was picked in the top 20 in his draft class.
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I hope we can get Dickson back out on the field. With teams becoming more aware of Pitta's effectivenss he is becoming harder to get passes too. If Dickson has to be accounted for then it opens up so much more in the passing game.
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Happy about Chris Johnson. What we saw of him in pittsburgh was promising.

Suddenly, our CB corpse seems much less a liability, with Corey Graham emerging and Cary Williams finding his 2011 form. If Jimmy Smith gets full healthy and gats back to the right path of the learning curve, we'll have a quite OK CB stack, even without Webb (not as if we weren't missing him badly...)

Against RGIII we'll need the A game from our D, and especially the CB's. Let's hope Cary Williams picks up his INT-thread and Corey continues where he's left.

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1. The Chargers aren't firing Norv Turner until season end.

2. Do you really think that a head coach fired mid-season would join a playoff caliber team as the OC in midseason? All while we fire our OC?

Explain to me how that is realistic.
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No new offensive coordinator is going to help this late in the season. Wait till' it's over. The Ravens are stuck with Catapult Cam through twenty twelve. Turner's not the answer. He's almost as boring as Cameron. I can go to sleep on him. I just don't ever understand how the Ravens hired Cameron after he went 1-15 at Miami.
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I have a thought-provoking thought, what if we let go of Cam and promoted Caldwell to OC? We would maintain continuity without having to revamp personnel or worry about the players making major adjustments to verbiage and what-not..
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[quote name='feartheflock' timestamp='1354838471' post='1248401']
Or maybe its that Flacco hasn't lived up to that 1st round expectation yet. Sometimes I even forget that he was picked in the top 20 in his draft class.
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You're aware of all the records he has, right?

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How many wins does Flacco have? Oh, that's right he only gets credit for wins, not losses....Most wins under Flacco were TEAM wins, very few had anything to do with his play that was so outstanding as to be the REASON our team won......How many times did he carry the team to a Super Bowl? How many games did he throw the game ending pick? How many times against Pittsburgh did he give up a strip-sack(just about every game) How bout last week, that was some elite QB play right there
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Jimgalpaloi we hired cam cameron because we we're the one team he beat.... we lost to the 1-15 dolphins. And cameron was Jim's Offensive coordinator/QBs coach in college and John though he would do well he has been good except for his play calling. He has been to two AFC championship games nonetheless.
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Cam Cameron, turn on your tv and watch all the different plays that Denver is doing..... Just a thought
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OK BillicksEGO, I'll bite...

Number of strip sacks against Pittsburgh... 2.. in 12 games. Or at least, I'm sure those are the only two you remember, because we happened to lose those games.

Number of times he carried his team to the Superbowl... none, or at least thats the easy argument. If you watched the AFC title game last year, the real answer should be 1, since he was literally the only reason the Ravens were in that game (see Ray Rice's numbers in that game, as well as the defenses. Not pretty)

Number of games he threw the game ending pick... I honestly have no idea. My guess is you can come up with 2-3 examples in like 5 years. Probably not many more.

Ask yourself this... if somebody told you we would score 20 points against a Charlie Batch led Pittsburgh Steelers team at home, what would you guess would be the result of that game? We didn't score 20 points because of Ray Rice, and we didn't score 20 points because of our defense or special teams.
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Sugg news: ordered to return guns

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000107019/article/terrell-suggs-ordered-to-give-up-guns-in-domestic-case
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Can Suggs coach the offense? If Courtney Upshaw weren't a FAT, he's very overweight, bust, the Ravens could let Suggs sit. Suggs should oversee the offensive play calling, because it is offensive.
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I'm not a Flacco hater, but I'm certainly not blind enough with love for Joe to say he had a good game against the hated Stillers Sunday either. He played like GARBAGE if you ask me. His throws were WAY off and his decision-making sucked. He held the ball way too long on some plays, refused to scramble when yards were there to be had, and continually missed receivers on both deep and intermediate routes.

When he's off, Cam and Harbs need to realize it and feed Rice and Pierce the rock in these close, winnable games where we want to run out the clock to preserve a win instead of giving the ball back to an opponent that now more than ever may move it right down the field against an extremely depleted defense.
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Flacco is a good QB , not a great one ...yet. IMHO Cam is not setting him up to be elite, where are all the intermediate routes , what happened to pass plays across the middle or down the seam. Joe has a big arm and likes to throw bombs on every other play , we need a coord whos is going to lead , call plays that will move the chains. I am so sick of 3rd and 9 or 10 and Joe trying to throw the deep out, Cmon man use your head, or better yet loose your head..Offensive coordinator!
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[quote name='The Beak' timestamp='1354853820' post='1248730']
Flacco is a good QB , not a great one ...yet. IMHO Cam is not setting him up to be elite, where are all the intermediate routes , what happened to pass plays across the middle or down the seam. Joe has a big arm and likes to throw bombs on every other play , we need a coord whos is going to lead , call plays that will move the chains. I am so sick of 3rd and 9 or 10 and Joe trying to throw the deep out, Cmon man use your head, or better yet loose your head..Offensive coordinator!
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You're complaining about Flacco in a Suggs thread? Really?
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[quote name='newrorayfan' timestamp='1354847519' post='1248635']
Can Suggs coach the offense? If Courtney Upshaw weren't a FAT, he's very overweight, bust, the Ravens could let Suggs sit. Suggs should oversee the offensive play calling, because it is offensive.
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Wat
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[quote name='johnathanoverlea@yahoo.com' timestamp='1354838678' post='1248406']
Norv Turner!!! Norv Turner!!! Norv Turner!!!
Baltimore make a move & fire Cam
Turner can turner this season around
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You know there's a reason why he's being fired, right? The Chargers offense hasn't been good since they let LT go, so you have to wonder how much of that success almost half a decade ago was because of defenses being wary of LT or because Phillip Rivers was actually good or because of Norv Turner's coaching. If it was coaching, they wouldn't have slumped this much after letting LT go. If it was because of Rivers, he would have still had a functioning offense last year and this year but instead he ended up leading the league in interceptions last season.

So no to Norv Turner.
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Not Complaining about Falcco, if you read through it, I'm complaining about Cam C, in a Suggs thread. But if you have read this thread it took a detour , onto the Cam cameron Hwy, Nothing to say abouit Sizzle except, hope hes back soon.

Oh BTW Nagata Chance Why you worried about my rant , are you the thread task man.
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Suggs, Suggs, Suggs, Suggs, Suggs, He might play. Hope he does. Go Suggs


Is that better Ngata and Yum!
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[quote name='Ngata Chance' timestamp='1354854538' post='1248737']
You're complaining about Flacco in a Suggs thread? Really?
[/quote]every thread is a bash cam and flacco hater rant session.
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[quote name='BillicksEGO' timestamp='1354843568' post='1248517']
How many wins does Flacco have? Oh, that's right he only gets credit for wins, not losses....Most wins under Flacco were TEAM wins, very few had anything to do with his play that was so outstanding as to be the REASON our team won......How many times did he carry the team to a Super Bowl? How many games did he throw the game ending pick? How many times against Pittsburgh did he give up a strip-sack(just about every game) How bout last week, that was some elite QB play right there
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Flacco usually gets blamed for the losses, and Ray Rice and the defense get all the credit for the wins. The reality, however, is that when you look at all the big games the Ravens have won the last couple of years, Flacco has been a huge factor. He outplayed Tom Brady in the win over the Patriots, and outplayed him in the AFC championship as well, making the plays to put his team in the super bowl. He didn't drop a pass or miss a chip shot field goal. Flacco's the one who led a 92 yd, game winning TD drive with 2 minutes left against the top ranked Steelers defense on the road. There were 4 dropped passes on that drive. Remember, the Ravens had a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter of that game. They fed the ball to Ray Rice and leaned on the defense to protect the lead, but that failed. In the game before that, he led the Ravens to a franchise record 21 point comeback. Flacco threw for over 300 yds in the win against the Texans 2nd ranked defense last year with Matt Schaub playing. Flacco was dominant in both blowout wins this year. Saying that Flacco doesn't have much to do with the Ravnes' wins is absolutely insane. Currently, the Ravens are ranked 23rd in rushing yds, and the defense has been ranked in the 20's all season. People still say Flacco only wins because of Ray Rice and the defense.
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[quote name='RavensBaltimore' timestamp='1354864223' post='1248785']
Flacco usually gets blamed for the losses, and Ray Rice and the defense get all the credit for the wins. The reality, however, is that when you look at all the big games the Ravens have won the last couple of years, Flacco has been a huge factor. He outplayed Tom Brady in the win over the Patriots, and outplayed him in the AFC championship as well, making the plays to put his team in the super bowl. He didn't drop a pass or miss a chip shot field goal. Flacco's the one who led a 92 yd, game winning TD drive with 2 minutes left against the top ranked Steelers defense on the road. There were 4 dropped passes on that drive. Remember, the Ravens had a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter of that game. They fed the ball to Ray Rice and leaned on the defense to protect the lead, but that failed. In the game before that, he led the Ravens to a franchise record 21 point comeback. Flacco threw for over 300 yds in the win against the Texans 2nd ranked defense last year with Matt Schaub playing. Flacco was dominant in both blowout wins this year. Saying that Flacco doesn't have much to do with the Ravnes' wins is absolutely insane. Currently, the Ravens are ranked 23rd in rushing yds, and the defense has been ranked in the 20's all season. People still say Flacco only wins because of Ray Rice and the defense.
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That's exactly why so many people blame Flacco for being inconsistent: he's not a Brees or Manning who'll almost always put on a no worse than B+-game - but he's also not a Cassell or Sanchez who simply cannot play good because he doesn't have what it takes. And thats the really frustrating part: we all see that Flacco has the skillset it takes to be an elite QB. The only thing that separates him from that bunch is the lack of consistency: while he's shown many times that he can construct monstrous drives, he's also shown many times that he's also able to have games where he struggles to make a decent first down. Also, any Ravens-fan would have a hard time trying to name a game this season where Flacco was great all the way. Most of the times our drives consist of a lot of unproductive (zero or negative yardage) snaps with one or two big plays courtesy of a great Flacco pass and/or a great individuasl performance of Rice or a WR. The great offenses are able to put up consistent drives with steady progress on the field. We haven't seen too much of that from our Ravens.

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The whole Flacco debate is a moot point. I say this because we have a below average OC and that's not debatable at all. The OC's job is to put players in a position to succeed and Cam does'nt do that.

The only way to truly judge Flacco is to get rid of our weakest link, Cam Cameron. Until that happens, Flacco and co. will consistently be put in a position to fail.

Cam must go !!!
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As much as I would love to see Sizzle on the field, I'm kinda worried that he may do more damage to his bicep but at the same time he's a warrior and will do anything to play if he can.
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if sizzle's not wearing a brace, should we fans brace ourselves for this week or times to come?
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I had a strained bicep once, I could barely bring a glass of water to my face without serious pain. Of course that was 20 years ago and I had no rehab other than asprin and rest. Perhaps treatment available is much better now, but anyway you slice it, Sizzle is going to feel it when (if) he plays.

Hope he can play, but fully understand if he can't

GO RAVENS!
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[quote name='Tyrone Jones' timestamp='1354887154' post='1248852']
We should have drafted Vontaze Burfict for LB dept now look at us
[/quote] we are where we are because of injuries not because of who we drafted he very well could have been injured too . I doubt another head case on the team would have changed what has happened to our defense this year . I love burficit until that kid opened his mouth and wow ........but i definitely feel the frustration too .
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[quote name='ravenwildman' timestamp='1354889981' post='1248861']
I had a strained bicep once, I could barely bring a glass of water to my face without serious pain. Of course that was 20 years ago and I had no rehab other than asprin and rest. Perhaps treatment available is much better now, but anyway you slice it, Sizzle is going to feel it when (if) he plays.

Hope he can play, but fully understand if he can't

GO RAVENS!
[/quote] my son tore his too tackling and he could not play for three or four weeks never needed surgery just saying i doubt we see suggs this weekend on the field
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@biolarzen
" but he's also not a Cassell or Sanchez who simply cannot play good because he doesn't have what it takes"

I am not a fan of Sanchez but I feel sorry for him. He doesn't have any weapons on their offense. Who does he have? Jeremy Kerley? They don't have a running game. Their OL is poor. Their defense isn't the same. On the other hand, we've given Flacco everything and yet he is inconsistent and has failed to meet expectations this year. The sad truth is we have to pay him more than he's worth. If we don't he could leave and we are in big trouble. It's hard to find a QB even like Flacco. We should've at least given Mark Bulger a chance when he was with us just to see how another QB does with these weapons and gauge Flacco. 5 years and we still don't have a clue how potent we are. If Flacco is franchised, we need to bring in a vet to give Flacco some competition.
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