Report: Suggs Injured - Torn Biceps

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1354625773' post='1246159']


Man, that is wishful thinking. Thinking a ('nother) defensive injury means we actually play football on the offensive side of the ball? Would love for you to be right, but me no thinks so!
[/quote]our offensive was far more expansive when suggs was out. I don't think that's a coincidence.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1354626204' post='1246168']
our offensive was far more expansive when suggs was out. I don't think that's a coincidence.
[/quote]

If in fact it was more expansive with Suggs out, it is absolutely 100% a coincidence, IMO.

No way Cam changed his game plan with or without Suggs being active!

[Tank 92]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1354624501' post='1246152']
If anything it may mean we begin to open the offense up a bit and play more expansive to try and actually win rather than not to lose.

More shotgun and sugar huddle Joe calling his own plays as he sees fit
[/quote]
[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1354626204' post='1246168']
our offensive was far more expansive when suggs was out. I don't think that's a coincidence.
[/quote]

With or without Sizzle this is our only chance to go deep into the off season. After last week I would hope that is recognized. Obviously, we cannot depend on the D.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1354626431' post='1246171']


If in fact it was more expansive with Suggs out, it is absolutely 100% a coincidence, IMO.

No way Cam changed his game plan with or without Suggs being active!
[/quote]I think it was more expansive because it had to be due to the defence surrendering more yards and points. So we had to gain more yards and points, quicker and more efficiently.

I think tbh it comea more from john than cam. Obviously cam calls the plays, but I think johns in the play good d and don't lose the game on offense.

That only gets you so far.

[Twistidfunk]

I don't like this news at all.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1354627188' post='1246177']
I think it was more expansive because it had to be due to the defence surrendering more yards and points. So we had to gain more yards and points, quicker and more efficiently.

I think tbh it comea more from john than cam. Obviously cam calls the plays, but I think johns in the play good d and don't lose the game on offense.

That only gets you so far.
[/quote]

I would love to believe and think they game plan individually for each game, both from a personnel standpoint and competition standpoint, but I cannot. They make zero adjustments, abandon the run early (drive freakin' one and then the entire 4th qtr) and just plain call a horrible game. It is so worrisome to see the same plays and same missteps every single year!

[display name]

Two words: This SUCKS.

[jimmypowder]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1354627409' post='1246181']


I would love to believe and think they game plan individually for each game, both from a personnel standpoint and competition standpoint, but I cannot. They make zero adjustments, abandon the run early (drive freakin' one and then the entire 4th qtr) and just plain call a horrible game. It is so worrisome to see the same plays and same missteps every single year!
[/quote]

Abandoning the run when you have the lead is unforgivable .

We had this conversation last year bigtime after the Seahawks game.

Something is seriously wrong when we have to talk about this year after year .

[Dfence4champs2052]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354592125' post='1245881']
We dont have Rodgers, and Stud recivers, and we have a crap OC.
[/quote]

That's why I said hope lol. I refuse to concede aloud.

[Dfence4champs2052]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1354624501' post='1246152']
If anything it may mean we begin to open the offense up a bit and play more expansive to try and actually win rather than not to lose.

More shotgun and sugar huddle Joe calling his own plays as he sees fit
[/quote]

I hope this does happen, but the sad part is, why do we have to wait? We should be doing that good stuff all the time.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1354627409' post='1246181']
I would love to believe and think they game plan individually for each game, both from a personnel standpoint and competition standpoint, but I cannot. [u][b]They make zero adjustments, abandon the run early (drive freakin' one and then the entire 4th qtr) and just plain call a horrible game. [/b][/u] [u][b]It is so worrisome to see the same plays and same missteps every single year![/b][/u]
[/quote]

well said!

~Mili

[redlobster]

Now that Harbaugh said that Suggs can play through the injury, which doesn't seem the best idea because suggs is already a shell of his former self after the achilles tear and add in a triceps injury , I can't see how he would be effective. My question is, with Ray Lewis expected to practice today, what about this idea. Keeping Lewis and Ellerbe at the ILB spots and moving Mcclain to OLB in suggs place?

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/john-harbaugh-suggs-can-play-through-injury-lewis-practicing-wednesday/"]http://profootballta...cing-wednesday/[/url]
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/john-harbaugh-suggs-can-play-through-injury-lewis-practicing-wednesday/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/john-harbaugh-suggs-can-play-through-injury-lewis-practicing-wednesday/[/url]
Wasn't Mcclain orginally an OLB in College?

[Ngata Chance]

That's encouraging news.

Now if we can get Ellerbe back and put Mclellan back at his normal position, we are better against the run.

[The Raven]

[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1354729968' post='1247405']
Now that Harbaugh said that Suggs can play through the injury, which doesn't seem the best idea because suggs is already a shell of his former self after the achilles tear and add in a triceps injury , I can't see how he would be effective. My question is, with Ray Lewis expected to practice today, what about this idea. Keeping Lewis and Ellerbe at the ILB spots and moving Mcclain to OLB in suggs place?

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/john-harbaugh-suggs-can-play-through-injury-lewis-practicing-wednesday/"]http://profootballta...cing-wednesday/[/url]
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/john-harbaugh-suggs-can-play-through-injury-lewis-practicing-wednesday/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/john-harbaugh-suggs-can-play-through-injury-lewis-practicing-wednesday/[/url]
Wasn't Mcclain orginally an OLB in College?
[/quote]

DE, actually.

[redlobster]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1354735973' post='1247498']
DE, actually.
[/quote]

Looks like you are right ,he started out as a LB at Syracuse then changed to a DE before the 06 season

[redlobster]

This is not promising :

A source with knowledge of the situation explains that, if Suggs needs surgery to repair his torn biceps muscle, there’s a window within which the surgery must be performed or it can never be performed.
If it’s not performed within said window, the muscle would never return to 100 percent

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/if-suggs-needs-surgery-he-only-has-so-long-to-do-it/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/if-suggs-needs-surgery-he-only-has-so-long-to-do-it/[/url]

Longterm damage at the risk of playing at less than full strength is not the answer

[rmw10]

[quote name='redlobster' timestamp='1354743185' post='1247594']
This is not promising :

A source with knowledge of the situation explains that, if Suggs needs surgery to repair his torn biceps muscle, there’s a window within which the surgery must be performed or it can never be performed.
If it’s not performed within said window, the muscle would never return to 100 percent

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/if-suggs-needs-surgery-he-only-has-so-long-to-do-it/"]http://profootballta...-long-to-do-it/[/url]

Longterm damage at the risk of playing at less than full strength is not the answer
[/quote]

Don't listen to PFT. No one listens to PFT.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1354744630' post='1247614']
Don't listen to PFT. No one listens to PFT.
[/quote]

i believe they are right this time though... unfortunately

[Dubs]

If that is true, I hope the team as well as Suggs decide to have the surgery