Blame Game

[PeRK82]

[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1354496904' post='1243232']
Cam. I guess its the easiest way to go, but whatever. [b]Any time Rice has 12 carries for 78 yards (6.5 YPC) [/b]and we don't keep giving him the rock, it blows my mind.
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I wouldn't go that far, yes he had a good game. But lets be Real, he hasn't been getting any yardage for a while now. Sick of see 3 and INCHES (last week against the Chargers) and he can't even get back to the line of scrimmage. And i would blame the O line but they can't be the Excuse because B.Pierce doesn't have a problem getting more than 2 yds a carry, he seems to always make something out of nothing.

Oh, that reminds me, i guess Rice was gaining yardage today because he was actually cutting back instead of going down running into his own O LINE or going down because a defender touched his Shoelace, lol.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354497033' post='1243253']
Ladies and Gentlemen, the quintessential Flacco hater. Anyone disagree? Anyone? Anyone?
[/quote][quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354497033' post='1243253']
Ladies and Gentlemen, the quintessential Flacco hater. Anyone disagree? Anyone? Anyone?
[/quote]i wont be back on team Flacco he is Pitiful.

[Markus92]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354497033' post='1243253']
Ladies and Gentlemen, the quintessential Flacco hater. Anyone disagree? Anyone? Anyone?
[/quote]UMMMM hes deff right though

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Raving_Heathen' timestamp='1354496929' post='1243237']
[b]I don't see how anyone can argue that the defense blew this game big time. 20 points at home against a Charlie Batch-led Steelers team should've been more than enough to win[/b]. Yet the defense let that O march up and down the field throughout the second half, most embarrassingly on that last drive.
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Exactly, mind you, the same team that Lost to the BROWNS, uNreal.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Markus92' timestamp='1354497127' post='1243275']
I think andy has a better upside then flacco now
[/quote]I agree

[tsizzle95]

this one was hard to watch. the steelers dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball. d line couldnt get any pressure on incredibly banged up o line. the only time we got some sacks was when batch held the ball for like 10 seconds.it seems like our d line gets absolutely no push at all. and our o line was man handled today...

[Crabcakes&Football]

Why is this a poll? It's [b]always[/b] Cam! The extinction of Dinosaurs, Global Warming, tomorrow being Monday. Cam, Cam and Cam.

[Bravens292]

the fans don't like it and now the players (ray rice, joe, boldin) don't like it. FIRE HIM NOW. he is as much a cancer as cundiff and evans but why does he get to stay.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1354496955' post='1243243']
yes cause the defense is playing all world caliber football....come on son
[/quote]He turned the ball over on the short field up 7........this is not the first time against the same team SMH How many more excuses do you have for his mediocre play?

[Yum Chickens]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1354496010' post='1243086']
If he isn't gone after this season, it's time to boycott the team.
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See this is why I get frustrated. We've been a winning team for 5+ seasons, there's no need to boycott. Boycotting is for the Chiefs, Jaguars, Eagles, Chargers, teams that actually suck.

[Markus92]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1354497192' post='1243289']
I agree
[/quote]joe flacco is like 27 going on 28 guys he's in his prime....this is the best he will ever be lol

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Yum Chickens' timestamp='1354497387' post='1243325']
See this is why I get frustrated. We've been a winning team for 5+ seasons, there's no need to boycott. Boycotting is for the Chiefs, Jaguars, Eagles, Chargers, teams that actually suck.
[/quote]

There's a fine, fine line between wanting your team to do better, and then being overly critical.

A lot of us straddle that line daily. I've been guilty of it, too -- but, again, it's a very fine line.

[OldSchoolRay52]

Hey PEES! 1 word for ya: Blitz!!!!!! We barely blitz and we didn't do one overload blitz in the entire game. We made Batch looked like Ben and that's inexcusable (even the Browns knows better...). And don't tell me that he didn't want to blitz because he had unproven DB's because it's way harder for the DB's to hold on their coverage (even in zone) for 8 seconds than covering their WR'S for 3 seconds because of the blitzes. Plus the Steelers had a bunch of backup in their OL and Batch can't escape the pocket. The sad thing is Harbaugh can't coach his coordinators (like Parcells would do with Belichick) and he has to rely entirely on them because the only dimension of the game he understands is special team...

[Cville-Raven]

LOL @ the Andy Dalton posts. I could throw 30 Td passes if I had Aj green.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Markus92' timestamp='1354497469' post='1243343']
joe flacco is like 27 going on 28 guys he's in his prime....this is the best he will ever be lol
[/quote]Again his upside is limited. But we both will get neg for this its all good though the truth hurts.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354497033' post='1243253']
Ladies and Gentlemen, the quintessential Flacco hater. Anyone disagree? Anyone? Anyone?
[/quote]

It is useless to disagree when he is in this mood. If Flacco has a good game next week, he'll be right back on his bandwagon again. It's a Jekyll and Hyde thing I've chosen to just ignore.

[reediddy]

I'm going to be as objective as possible when I say Flacco had an awful performance today BUT that it was as much a function of our WR's and OL as it was him. As far as what he didn't do himself, his deep throws consistently turned into jump balls instead of a lead ball that the receiver could catch in stride. He was indecisive on a number of occasions, but that's where we get into the WR's who dropped a number of passes and were generally unable to get open, albeit against the #1 pass defense which got a boost with the return of Troy. I liked what our OL did in the run game and was surprised we abandoned it; RR and Pierce ran great today. But pass protection left a lot to be desired. KO is a great run mauler at RT thus far; love what he's doing in that department. He'll continue to grow as a pass protector but today he was largely ineffective, and that's without Woodley. Oher had a tough time with Harrison as usual.

There's really not a lot to pinpoint in terms of the offense, it was a collectively poor performance. I'm not very confident with the way this offense plays on a regular basis. I'm quite hesitant on my criticism of Flacco because of the inevitable backlash from many fans on this forum, but he seems to have regressed to an extent. I haven't seen the confidence in his decision-making; again, a function of WRs but there are players open at times that he has just missed.

Defensively that was quite poor, and quite frankly it should've been worse if not for Sanders' fumble, Batch's inability to hit a wide open Wallace, Wallace's other drop etc etc. Run defense was sound except for missed tackles especially the ones that led to Dwyer's TD.

I don't even want to go into the Harbaugh challenge; just fire whoever relayed to him that that was a play worth challenging. That lost timeout was costly.

In the BIG scheme of things it's one loss and we are still in good shape. Further observation and analysis would lead one to believe that this team is not one capable of doing any real damage come playoff time. We've already seen what Houston did to us...

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1354497622' post='1243361']
Again his upside is limited. But we both will get neg for this its all good though the truth hurts.
[/quote]Hmm maybe we should give Tyrod a shot, I'm sure overthrowing screen passes is going to win games.......

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1354497814' post='1243385']
Hmm maybe we should give Tyrod a shot, I'm sure overthrowing screen passes is going to win games.......
[/quote]How is that diffrent than 180 yard road games with turnovers. SMH

[rlh445]

I clicked every option on that list. I hope every last person in the Ravens organization has a sleepless night and vows to NEVER play like that again/coach like that again/suck horribly.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1354497898' post='1243395']
How is that diffrent than 180 yard road games with turnovers. SMH
[/quote]Well considering the turnovers would probably double with Tyrod, I'd say thats a big difference.

[Markus92]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1354497622' post='1243361']
Again his upside is limited. But we both will get neg for this its all good though the truth hurts.
[/quote]
Lol yea idc that we get nagged I'm just as big as a fan as anybody on this site..... Im just being real and telling the truth....some people on the site consider flacco in the same category as Tom brady....I can name 10 abs better than flacco right now...Peyton, eli, Big ben, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Shaub, Romo, stafford, and MATT RYAN...Yes I said MATT RYAN he's wayyyyy better lol and arguably RG3 and luck...

[bauer77]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1354497644' post='1243363']
It is useless to disagree when he is in this mood. If Flacco has a good game next week, he'll be right back on his bandwagon again. It's a Jekyll and Hyde thing I've chosen to just ignore.
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This. lol

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='reediddy' timestamp='1354497806' post='1243384']
I'm going to be as objective as possible when I say Flacco had an awful performance today BUT that it was as much a function of our WR's and OL as it was him. As far as what he didn't do himself, his deep throws consistently turned into jump balls instead of a lead ball that the receiver could catch in stride. He was indecisive on a number of occasions, but that's where we get into the WR's who dropped a number of passes and were generally unable to get open, albeit against the #1 pass defense which got a boost with the return of Troy. [b]I liked what our OL did in the run game and was surprised we abandoned it; RR and Pierce ran great today.[/b] But pass protection left a lot to be desired. KO is a great run mauler at RT thus far; love what he's doing in that department. He'll continue to grow as a pass protector but today he was largely ineffective, and that's without Woodley. Oher had a tough time with Harrison as usual.

There's really not a lot to pinpoint in terms of the offense, it was a collectively poor performance. I'm not very confident with the way this offense plays on a regular basis.[b] I'm quite hesitant on my criticism of Flacco because of the inevitable backlash from many fans on this forum[/b], but he seems to have regressed to an extent. I haven't seen the confidence in his decision-making; again, a function of WRs but there are players open at times that he has just missed.

Defensively that was quite poor, and quite frankly it should've been worse if not for Sanders' fumble, Batch's inability to hit a wide open Wallace, Wallace's other drop etc etc. Run defense was sound except for missed tackles especially the ones that led to Dwyer's TD.

I don't even want to go into the Harbaugh challenge; just fire whoever relayed to him that that was a play worth challenging. That lost timeout was costly.

In the BIG scheme of things it's one loss and we are still in good shape. Further observation and analysis would lead one to believe that this team is not one capable of doing any real damage come playoff time. We've already seen what Houston did to us...
[/quote]

I don't think anyone will bash you for accurate criticism of Flacco, he was miserable this game and all criticism is well deserved - although i wouldn't say he's regressed, this one game is what it is, one game, and overall I think he's better than he was last year, when he was downright appalling for the first half of the season. And I definitely agree with you here - now here's where I'm wondering if that's Cam calling passes or Joe deciding to audible out of run plays.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1354498044' post='1243412']
Well considering the turnovers would probably double with Tyrod, I'd say thats a big difference.
[/quote]How do you know this? Do you have a magic eight ball?

[Bravens292]

it really sucks pittsburgh has the same defense every year because Lebeau never leaves but we have to "adjust" to a new defense every year. thank god the steelers will finally have to adjust next year. Lebeaus going to play golf ! our team has been plagued with bad coordinating throughout our 5 years. mattison with his prevent, pees using constant zones when we can't communicate, and of course who guessed it mr cameron. one year one year please where its the lack of talent than the coaching. nothing feels worse than underachieving with talent. i have to deal with this following the ravens and now the lakers. what we are is a team that is underachieving (performance wise) with talent but doing better than the eagles because we have more luck (KC Game, Dallas missed FG, @ steelers w/ no ben, 4th and 29, etc etc)

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Markus92' timestamp='1354498120' post='1243424']
Lol yea idc that we get nagged I'm just as big as a fan as anybody on this site..... Im just being real and telling the truth....some people on the site consider flacco in the same category as Tom brady....I can name 10 abs better than flacco right now...Peyton, eli, Big ben, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Shaub, Romo, stafford, and MATT RYAN...Yes I said MATT RYAN he's wayyyyy better lol and arguably RG3 and luck...
[/quote]I agree add Cam as well and Andy Dalton.

[bauer77]

[quote name='Markus92' timestamp='1354498120' post='1243424']
Lol yea idc that we get nagged I'm just as big as a fan as anybody on this site..... Im just being real and telling the truth....some people on the site consider flacco in the same category as Tom brady....I can name 10 abs better than flacco right now...Peyton, eli, Big ben, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Shaub, Romo, stafford, and MATT RYAN...Yes I said MATT RYAN he's wayyyyy better lol and arguably RG3 and luck...
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Well right now, Big Ben is injured...so idk about that. LOL. And Romo? Really?

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Markus92' timestamp='1354498120' post='1243424']
Lol yea idc that we get nagged I'm just as big as a fan as anybody on this site..... Im just being real and telling the truth....some people on the site consider flacco in the same category as Tom brady....I can name 10 abs better than flacco right now...Peyton, eli, Big ben, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Shaub, [b]Romo[/b], stafford, and MATT RYAN...Yes I said MATT RYAN he's wayyyyy better lol and arguably RG3 and luck...
[/quote]

Romo? Did you see what he did against Washington? He is a turnover machine.

[Gordo52]

Everyone did horrible besides Tucker & Koch