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[News] Late For Work 11/28: Chances Ravens Get Pro Bowl DE Jason Babin

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[url=http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-1128-Chances-Ravens-Get-Pro-Bowl-DE-Jason-Babin/2c927699-0562-460b-aae8-a79badb1654f]View the full article[/url]
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I really would like to see us get Babin but I would put our chances at 20%. Still, we need to hit Roethlisberger.
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Andy Reid will be clearing things out before he exits Phila. I think Babin wants to play but few around him on the Eagles defense are. A change of scenery to the Ravens philosophy could put 5 more strong years into his career. Most likely won't happen though.
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If they were trying to get Bryant McKinnie ready for the final push now is the time to see if it has paid off.
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i really hope we get babin he could just give us that little extra push to make our defense good enough to get us all the way there. cause our O struggles on the road we need our D to be great like they were this last weekend. and adding him would be another great improvement to an already great rotation of pass rushing line backers and DEs
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1. If we signed Babin, he would only be a 3rd down pass rusher, as he was graded as one of the worst run defense ends in the league.

2. I don't think he really fits well in the 3-4, and he would probably take Kruger off the field on 3rd down, which doesn't make much sense to me.
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there's no way some crappy team will allow Babin thru waivers. He's 32 and a bit pricy maybe so there's a chance but I have to believe a desperate team will drop the cash like the Skins or someone.
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McKInnie appears as if he will get the nod... he manhandles Harrison so it may be a good time to promote him.

Babin opposite Suggs is scary... especially the way that Krueger and Upshaw have been improving.... with Ngata pushing the pocket... If we could get a deal like that done- that could push us over the top!

I hope that Ben and Antonio and all the sqeelers play.... dont want no excuses this time around!
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we don't even have cap room for babin but its a nice thought. Joe has a chance to shut everyone up manning brothers back to back . I mean beat them and beat them bad. Let your actions speak louder then there words.
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I don't think Babin would be a fit for us at all. He's only ever had success playing in a 4-3, and more specifically than that, only in the Wide 9 defense and only when it's coached by Jim Washburn. We just don't need a 4-3 DE unless we completely change our scheme. It doesn't really matter though because as the article says, we don't have the cap space and he probably won't clear waivers.

I hope they go with Reid or Harewood at LG. It's worth it just to get one of those guys the experience, Bobby Williams clearly isn't a long term solution.
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that'd be an expensive 3rd down rusher, we have issues stopping the run as it is (not so much as of late but if it ain't completely broken, don't worry too much about fixing it lol
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Please don't sign Babin. There were questions about his effort in Philly and we don't need that type of player anywhere near our locker room.
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Right now,I don't think we need him.Our guys have stepped up & the defense is jelling nicely. We need help on the offensive side.Somebody that can make better play calling & adjustments to the opponents defense.It seems that we make adjustments too late.
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Sara, Sara, Sara,
Please, you have to stop printing negative news about our team. That article from Adam Schein was horribly bias. If someone was talking smack about you would you want it passed along to all of your friends and fans? There are so many naysayers out there you need to learn to ignore them. Please.
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Babin could very well clear waivers, he is 32 years old, teams with losing records are not going to add a player over 30 halfway through a losing season. The only teams I see taking a shot at Babin are those who have a chance at a playoff spot, run a 43 defense, and of course, the need to boost their pass rush.

Maybe NE, they have been running a 43.
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I don't like Reid at guard. Maybe he needs more time but if Harbaugh wants to put the best OL to win now then I would go with Harewood or Williams. I always thought the best OL we had was McKinnie, Osemele, Birk, Yanda, and Oher but I guess its too late in the season to try that.

Oh, and theres no chance for Babin.
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I'm in agreement with heycuf that we don't need to add another piece to the Dee now that they are demonstrating that they are buying into Dean Pees and his ability to think on his feet quickly!

No sense sending a message that may be construed by the young Ravens that the coaches and FO lack confidence in them by bringing Babin in.

Let the kids continue to grow into their roles! Few great pass rushers make an impact right from the Draft!
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how can players be beat like they own you and ask for payton to sign is picture,they s should be trying to get that picture out of there mines uless its got a bullseye on it
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Babin will clear waivers, because no one will want to pick up that monster contract. We probably won't sign him, because he will most likely be looking for a long term deal, worth high dollar money.
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Whoever picks him up, need to restructure his contract. He's too pricy for his age and his diminishing returns can be too costly for any team - desperate or not.
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There is often a very strong relationship most young head coaches have with their franchise signal callers. You see it with Sean Payton and Drew Brees; Belichick and Dungy aren't exactly young but they had it with Brady and Peyton Manning respectively. Andy Reid had a semi-parity relationship with McNabb, and you saw it with Jeff Fisher and Steve McNair. I just don't see it with Harbaugh and Flacco. Maybe I'm not as close to the organization as the average fan, but it seems to me like the relationship Harbaugh has with Ray Lewis is one usually reserved for the HC and QB. Not to say Ray hasn't earned it-- far from it, I'm just saying that it may be the final piece to this puzzle that everyone is waiting for. I want to see Harbaugh and Flacco crap-chatting on the field during warm ups, and then exchanging ideas when the defense is on the field during games. Just a thought.
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Adding Babin now would upset the applecart me thinks. Better to go with what already is working. At least at the cost of $2 mil for 4 or 5 games. Rankings don't mean squat or a hill of beans at the end of the season. Only wins count. So where this team ranks in some guy's head is of no consequence. And if this team was playing for power rankings it might not have the current win/loss record.
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Contrary to those trying to cushion themselves for Babin going somewhere else, I just want to throw out a few things:[list]
[*]Babin was a beast last year;
[*]we need another piece of the puzzle to get past Houston in the playoffs;
[*]he can put the added pressure on the Mannings and RG3 to keep our secondary from being exploited;
[*]what was his motivation to go all-out when the Eagles have given up (too bad we didn't play them later in the season or we would be 11 and 1 right now).
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The Eagles released Babin so they can get their younger guys some playing time in a lost season. We've given all our young guys opportunity to play (granted its due to injury) in a 9-2 season! Would Babin be a nice addition to our D of course he would. Would it be the end of the world if he went somewhere else of course not.. Let's go Ravens!!!
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%u201CIf the Ravens win the Super Bowl, 4th-and-29 should be engraved on the ring.%u201D

That might be the best thing I read in that part of the article.
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better than 4th and 29 on a ring is etched in the minds of all teams yet to play the Ravens this season. Tends to put a damper on sure things if they get ahead.
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[quote name='roamingcharges' timestamp='1354118269' post='1237059']
There is often a very strong relationship most young head coaches have with their franchise signal callers. You see it with Sean Payton and Drew Brees; Belichick and Dungy aren't exactly young but they had it with Brady and Peyton Manning respectively. Andy Reid had a semi-parity relationship with McNabb, and you saw it with Jeff Fisher and Steve McNair. I just don't see it with Harbaugh and Flacco. Maybe I'm not as close to the organization as the average fan, but it seems to me like the relationship Harbaugh has with Ray Lewis is one usually reserved for the HC and QB. Not to say Ray hasn't earned it-- far from it, I'm just saying that it may be the final piece to this puzzle that everyone is waiting for. I want to see Harbaugh and Flacco crap-chatting on the field during warm ups, and then exchanging ideas when the defense is on the field during games. Just a thought.
[/quote] I know what you're saying, and I totally agree.

But Harbs is a "different" head coach. He appears to NOT be the shot caller with offensive and defensive game planning. Obviously he would have the final say; but he seems to be more of a player/personnel manager, face of the team type guy. He's not a defensive or an offensive coach. He was a ST coach. I just don't think he's as hands on as the other guys you mentioned; and I think it's intentional. Harbs let's the coaches coach, and makes the final decision.

At least that's how I perceive it.

But again...you're right. It seems that all the great QBs have or have had a specail bond with the head coach. Yet those HCs were pretty much the dictators. Not so with Harbs.

Although I like Harbs a lot.
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@ Crabby - This isnt a Pep Rally - this is a news article - take off your purple glasses and get some prespective .

its her job to dig around the net and see what others are saying - good bad what ever.

fun job for Media staff - for like friday afternoons , put together a bunch of clips from the week of what the Experts at ESPN - Nflnetwork are saying and how they are breaking down our games .
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Hey Diddle Diddle Ray Rice Up The Middle. If it's 4th and long I'll never doubt the Ravens again.
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I know we could use Babin but I don't like the guys attitude at all. Everytime I see him play it looks like he takes cheap shots. Am I the only one that sees this?
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METALRAVEN it might be also that Harbaugh really believes that stuff about it being a team effort and as such he just spreads it around. I've seen him patting players on the sideline many times from all 3 departements of the game.
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[quote name='jive_1000' timestamp='1354119105' post='1237086']
METALRAVEN it might be also that Harbaugh really believes that stuff about it being a team effort and as such he just spreads it around. I've seen him patting players on the sideline many times from all 3 departements of the game.
[/quote] Yup...that's definitely true.
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lets put all emphasis on bull rushing the steelers qb.whether it's bem or batch.we win were in.than we can rest the walking wounded.
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I'm pretty sure I've commented "McKinnie at LT, Oher at RT and KO at LG is our best oline lineup" so much I could type it in my sleep. Glad to hear someone else finally agree with me because every single writer/blogger from Baltimoreravens.com have basically made me feel like an idiot when I say that. They all defend the play of the tackles but the simple and clear fact is KO is overmatched at RT but he would provide a massive upgrade at LG and Oher is an average LT but a very good RT (another upgrade) and last but not least I strongly believe McKinnie is an upgrade over Oher at LT. If Babin clears waivers Ravens should pounce on that
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Don't even let this Adam Shein guy get to you. I saw the article on NFL.com yesterday and I admit that I got irritated. But then I actually read the article and realized that this clown is full of horse manuer. I mean seriously, he had Larry Fitzgerald on his list of players he couldn't trust, but completely ignores players such as Eli Manning who has with a 7-4 record,and has thrown for 11 interceptions. It's a BS article from a BS person who apparently doesn't watch enough football to know what's going on.
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I believe we found our tempo at the end of sunday's game. If Joe can start a game with that type of playing, there is no doubt that he will earn that elite status and show all the doubters.
It would be sweet to have babin help with the pass rush, but again I believe the defence had found a rhythm as well, and we just dont have the cap room to get him.
Put McKinnie in and see how the offence fairs. The way I see it, if he still wants to be a factor on this team then he needs to show that he can still play. We need to figure the o-line situation before playoffs cause we don't want to be experimenting too much during playoffs.
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Does Adam Shine realize the next level is the Super Bowl? Hardly a reason to not trust your QB. Patience my bro., patience. Wait for it... wait for it. Also, I really don't think we're interested in Babin. Have you seen our "D" lately? Go Ravens!!! :)
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Every1 keeps sayin @Ravens should get #Babin-NOPE he only effective in a 4-3 wide 9 set type defense we run 3-4 HE'D BE LOST,Take yr 2 learn.~John RavensHype (@RavensHypeMan)
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%u201CI never have trusted Flacco. Right now, it looks like I never will,%u201D Schein wrote. Precisely why you will never be a football coach or a team insider! Buffoonery is all you are capable of Schein!
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We really don't need to waste our money on Babin. He could possibly help the pass rush, but now that the d-line is getting better push, that seems to be taking care of itself. When McPhee gets back, hopefully he'll get himself a couple sacks, and contribute. Hopefully Suggs and Kruger, and even Ngata and Jones, will continue to pass rush well going into the playoffs. We're getting better, so honestly, we hopefully don't need such a drastic move as bringing in a last-second veteran to boost the unit.
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P.S. in my opinion, having McKinnie at LT, Osemele at LG, and Oher at RT, was probably the best choice all along. It would be nice to see them do that.
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Babin getting released was definitely interesting news. But, to be honest he is only used to 4-3 and I doubt we would would change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 at the end of the season to make Babin fit.
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The fantasy football host on Nfl Network is a Flacco hater he sits him like every week. once we win that superbowl I bet he will feel like an idiot for always benching flacco.
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If Babin clears waivers, there's really no downside to picking him up for the vet minimum (Philly will be on the hook for the remainder of this year's salary). He's a pass rusher, he would thrive in our rotation, especially now with the extra motivation of being on a winning team and proving the Eagles wrong. Those people saying no are probably the same ones who said we shouldn't go after Jacoby Jones when he was released. If he clears waivers, it's a win-win situation.
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