Joe Flacco The Next Tom Brady?

[ravensgirl88]

The announcers last night were calling Flacco "BRADY-LIKE" and comparing him to the great Tom Brady, Here's the STATS to see what YOU think about this..

In 2001 Brady started 14 of 15 games at Quarterback and completed 264 of 413 passes for 2,843 yards

[jfc13]

As much as I am enjoying Flacco's play and progression, I'm not going to make comparisons this soon. Let's see how he does against the elite teams and into his sophomore season.

I get what you're saying and I know it's fueled by our excitement of how well he and the team are playing, but it's a little scary to start making these kinds of comparisons. I'm going to let him become his own player - and hope that he does achieve greatness over the years.

[ravensgirl88]

[quote name='jfc13' post='87623' date='Nov 10 2008, 09:17 AM']As much as I am enjoying Flacco's play and progression, I'm not going to make comparisons this soon. Let's see how he does against the elite teams and into his sophomore season.

I get what you're saying and I know it's fueled by our excitement of how well he and the team are playing, but it's a little scary to start making these kinds of comparisons. I'm going to let him become his own player - and hope that he does achieve greatness over the years.[/quote]


Oh I know! Im in NO way saying he will be.. I just brought it up because during the game yesterday the announcers said it about 4 different times. I agree.. he needs to play elite teams and teams "worth" beating in order to get 100% respect and admiration.

[jfc13]

I heard them say it, too. It just scares me when they say stuff like that. I worry that it puts too much pressure on a player. Plus, there is that whole "jinx" thing to worry about.

[PIG 20]

But I'm very much For Flacco!

[justifythegame]

OMG I hope not. I don't want Flacco to be a cheater. And Flacco doesn't seem to need the best reciever in the NFL (arguably the best ever), he doesn't do most of his damage with completing 2 yard passes to a guy too small to tackle either. flacco doesn't really have an above average reciever to begin with. No disrespect to Mason tho.

The best complement is to be compared to peyton mannng imo. Who can tear up even the best Ds in the nfl on occasion (including ours). And one comparison i can make is the way flacco throws his short to medium passes, just the way he throws the ball is somewhat similar. he was being compared to big ben b4 the season, but imo hes not a break tackler like big ben. i think flacco will become his own QB uncomparable to any other by the time he is done, being the tallest QB in the NFL and having the biggest arm while at the same time being accurate is nice combination

[JO_75]

Yeah the announcers can call him "Brady-Like" which seems like a good compliment that we should be taking in(as in someone actually said we have the next Tom Brady) Well if they want to call Joe Brady Like, than we might as well call Matt Ryan Manning-Like(Peyton I mean) and we have ourselfs the next Manning/Brady rivalry in Flacco vs Ryan. Ok now to be serious, in the beginning of the season when the Ravens went 2-0 I kept reading Flacco being compared to Big Ben. Now we are hearing him compared to Tom Brady. I don't know about Tom Brady, but I compared Flacco to Eli Manning and I'm sticking to that comparison. But hey wouldn't be cool if we had the next big QB rivalry going with Joe Flacco vs Matt Ryan(only if the NFL would put the Falcons on our schedule!)

[ravensgirl88]

[quote name='JO_75' post='87651' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:30 AM']Yeah the announcers can call him "Brady-Like" which seems like a good compliment that we should be taking in(as in someone actually said we have the next Tom Brady) Well if they want to call Joe Brady Like, than we might as well call Matt Ryan Manning-Like(Peyton I mean) and we have ourselfs the next Manning/Brady rivalry in Flacco vs Ryan. Ok now to be serious, in the beginning of the season when the Ravens went 2-0 I kept reading Flacco being compared to Big Ben. Now we are hearing him compared to Tom Brady. I don't know about Tom Brady, but I compared Flacco to Eli Manning and I'm sticking to that comparison. But hey wouldn't be cool if we had the next big QB rivalry going with Joe Flacco vs Matt Ryan(only if the NFL would put the Falcons on our schedule!) [/quote]

i agree with that, matt ryan deserves respect for what he's doing in atlanta too.

[Purple Punishment]

I dont know who Joe reminds me of really. He has very great quick strike ability. Remember when he got the ball by Polamalu not once but twice. He also has great accuracy going deep. He doesnt mind taking the ball and running with it either. That is a great attribute because he resorts to running and will not try to force many plays. I dunno, his style alone is reminiscent of John Elway. Big Arm and nerves of steel. He doesnt pull a Boller and get emotional after a mistake, he keeps his cool and does what he has to to make things happen. We have a great young QB here in Baltimore. I look back and say if Ryan was still on the Board at #8. I would have traded down for Joe

[Sub-Zero]

Tom Brady:

Arrogance-check
The smirk-check
cameras/other recording devices-check
classless/beyotch of a coach-check

no I hope he doesn't become the next Brady! Just become the first and only Joe Flacco

[Lets_Go_Joe]

I dont think so, Brady has no where near the arm Joe has power wise. I think Joe is kind of alone in where he could go, hes huge 6'6" mobile,many runs for first or touchdowns, HUGE LASER ROCKET ARM , and great poise. Most of the great QB's dont seem to have as much mobility as Joe, and he has good pocket awareness usually. Pocket awareness and accuracy will come with time, but his demeanor is the reason he will be successful. He doesnt get rattled, which is very Brady-like. Joe can just flip his wrist and fling the ball 45-60 yards, its amazing. I think Jow will be great, but I dont see the comparison with Brady that much.....

[PuRock]

I hope Flacco is the next Flacco.

[Purple Punishment]

thats what I'm thinking, Flacco is the next Flacco

[FerrariFan87]

Well, the announcers technically didn't call Joe "Brady-like," they were quoting Coach Harbaugh, but no Joe is Joe and will continue to make a name for himself. Once he wins 3 Super Bowls and 2 Super Bowl MVPs then maybe we can start looking at a comparison.

[itscbm5042]

I would say he is developing Peyton's field general mentality, is beginning to throw the deep ball like Brady, and is tougher than Ben Roethlisberger. And that, is a pretty awesome combination. And again, this is all without a true #1 or #2 receiver and the youngest OL in the NFL. Just wait until the Ravens get him a new toy to play with.

[H8R]

I just hope our O-Line can be strong for YEARS to come because Flacco can DO IT ALL. Give him Time, he will pick you apart. It is absolutly amazing to see how much he has improved. Take away that one bad game in Indy, he has played GREAT ball! I'm very suprised to see the amount of improvement from his first snap in Pre-Season to now. I swear when I first watched him do his drop he looked like he had concrete shoes...Now, he is very good with mechanics which is HUGE for a ROOKIE, or ANY QB for that matter.!

[Gwaihir]

[quote name='PuRock' post='87660' date='Nov 10 2008, 01:21 PM']I hope Flacco is the next Flacco.[/quote]

I was just getting ready to post this myself and saw you beat me to it!! He doesn't remind me of anyone else, he definitely has his own style! Great Athlete, cannon arm, nerves of steel, let's just let him be Flacco!!

[itscbm5042]

I don't see why our OL won't be that strong for years look at the youth on the line. Gaither, Grubbs, Brown, Yanda/Chester, the only replacement I can see in the next few years would be at RT and Terry is only 28. Its very exciting to know that the the QB and his protectors will be around for a looong time and they're very young.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='ravensgirl88' post='87619' date='Nov 10 2008, 09:03 AM']The announcers last night were calling Flacco "BRADY-LIKE" and comparing him to the great Tom Brady, Here's the STATS to see what YOU think about this..

In 2001 Brady started 14 of 15 games at Quarterback and completed 264 of 413 passes for 2,843 yards

[Ravnet]

I'm not sure what announcers you're talking about, but if it was the gameday guys from yesterday, they were referring to a statement Harbaugh made concerning Flacco on the final few drives against Cleveland.

[Gwaihir]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' post='87705' date='Nov 10 2008, 03:52 PM']By the way I am not positive but I think he has thrown 103 consecutive passes w/o an int.[/quote]

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[#1falconfan]

[quote name='JO_75' post='87651' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:30 AM']Yeah the announcers can call him "Brady-Like" which seems like a good compliment that we should be taking in(as in someone actually said we have the next Tom Brady) Well if they want to call Joe Brady Like, than we might as well call Matt Ryan Manning-Like(Peyton I mean) and we have ourselfs the next Manning/Brady rivalry in Flacco vs Ryan. Ok now to be serious, in the beginning of the season when the Ravens went 2-0 I kept reading Flacco being compared to Big Ben. Now we are hearing him compared to Tom Brady. I don't know about Tom Brady, but I compared Flacco to Eli Manning and I'm sticking to that comparison. But hey wouldn't be cool if we had the next big QB rivalry going with Joe Flacco vs Matt Ryan(only if the NFL would put the Falcons on our schedule!) [/quote]
Actually Ryan has been compared to Manning because of what he does before the line of scrimmage, but I think both teams found their franchise qb's.

[itscbm5042]

Ryan doesn't have the toughness, mobility, or speed that Flacco possesses. Lets not forget that in addition to the 7 passing TD's, Flacco also has 2 rushing TD's and plays in a heavier run first offense with a 3 headed monster RB committee. He also does not have a legitimate #1 receiver to throw to like Ryan has in Roddy White. Also, if you look at the stats they show Ryan is better starting off in games, but Flacco has really become clutch. He has over 65% completion rating on 3rd downs compared to a 30% rating for Ryan and also has 400+ yards in the 4th quarter with no interceptions. Flacco is also a road warrior, which cannot be said about Ryan. Both are good QB's no doubt, but Flacco's mobility, no huddle ability, and clutch performance put him above Ryan for ROY. All he has to do is continue to play well and make sound decisions against tough competition and he will win.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='itscbm5042' post='87962' date='Nov 11 2008, 01:13 AM']Ryan doesn't have the toughness, mobility, or speed that Flacco possesses. Lets not forget that in addition to the 7 passing TD's, Flacco also has 2 rushing TD's and plays in a heavier run first offense with a 3 headed monster RB committee. He also does not have a legitimate #1 receiver to throw to like Ryan has in Roddy White. Also, if you look at the stats they show Ryan is better starting off in games, but Flacco has really become clutch. He has over 65% completion rating on 3rd downs compared to a 30% rating for Ryan and also has 400+ yards in the 4th quarter with no interceptions. Flacco is also a road warrior, which cannot be said about Ryan. Both are good QB's no doubt, but Flacco's mobility, no huddle ability, and clutch performance put him above Ryan for ROY. All he has to do is continue to play well and make sound decisions against tough competition and he will win.[/quote]


Ryan is always blessed with TOP wr's we have our own too and are buliding them to be "great".. However we have the Defense to help us out which I think gives us the edge over Atlanta..

[#1falconfan]

[quote name='itscbm5042' post='87962' date='Nov 11 2008, 01:13 AM']Ryan doesn't have the toughness, mobility, or speed that Flacco possesses. Lets not forget that in addition to the 7 passing TD's, Flacco also has 2 rushing TD's and plays in a heavier run first offense with a 3 headed monster RB committee. He also does not have a legitimate #1 receiver to throw to like Ryan has in Roddy White. Also, if you look at the stats they show Ryan is better starting off in games, but Flacco has really become clutch. He has over 65% completion rating on 3rd downs compared to a 30% rating for Ryan and also has 400+ yards in the 4th quarter with no interceptions. Flacco is also a road warrior, which cannot be said about Ryan. Both are good QB's no doubt, but Flacco's mobility, no huddle ability, and clutch performance put him above Ryan for ROY. All he has to do is continue to play well and make sound decisions against tough competition and he will win.[/quote]
I agree that Flacco is more mobile than Ryan, but Ryan has been running the no huddle since week 4, and the Falcons don't really throw the ball that much in the 4th quarter. I think that it will be close.

[macbrak]

Joe is skirting the line between "gunslinger" and "caretaker". He's making the long plays but still keeping a high completion rate. I think this is where the comparison comes.

He also seems to be getting into the grove with every receiver.

Both QB's are bringing huge results to teams that needed it. Ryan might have the advantage as the Falcons had to be dismantled and rebuilt, the Ravens just needed a QB.

[Shadowalker]

FLACCO vs. RYAN SUPERBOWLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!







(that was a joke)




















or was it??!??!?!?!?!/!/!?!!

[itscbm5042]

The storyline would be incredible. Two rookie QB's, two rookie head coaches, two surprise teams, and one wayyyyy better than the other haha. Still, the storyline would be INSANE.

[K-Dog]

[quote name='itscbm5042' post='88061' date='Nov 11 2008, 11:24 AM']The storyline would be incredible. Two rookie QB's, two rookie head coaches, two surprise teams, and one wayyyyy better than the other haha. Still, the storyline would be INSANE.[/quote]


[b][u]HUGE[/b][/u]

[justifythegame]

[quote name='itscbm5042' post='87672' date='Nov 10 2008, 01:09 PM']I would say he is developing Peyton's field general mentality, is beginning to throw the deep ball like Brady, and is [b]tougher than Ben Roethlisberger.[/b] And that, is a pretty awesome combination. And again, this is all without a true #1 or #2 receiver and the youngest OL in the NFL. Just wait until the Ravens get him a new toy to play with.[/quote]
i'm all for supporting the team and our new qb, and the steelers rivalry and all, but thats pushing it. after mcnair retired i gotta say big ben is the toughest QB in the nfl, and flacco doesn't even compare. flacco is tall yeah, but he is skinny as hell too. he doesn't stiff arm, shrug tackles, and stay alive like big ben or a few other QBs in the nfl for that matter. flacco's height gives him a big advantage in his vision but to say he is tougher than big ben.... you lost credibility in my book.

btw brady is not a big deal at throwing the ball deep, most ppl with randy moss have that luxury, and brady definately couldn't do that b4 moss came in.